I couldn't be trying harder says Millwall boss after defeat

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IAN Holloway insisted he couldn't be trying any harder as Millwall's manager after his side fell to another heavy defeat.

The Lions remain six points adrift of safety after they were beaten 3-0 by Middlesbrough at the Riverside Stadium on Tuesday night.

Holloway had gone into the game hoping to prove to chairman John Berylson that he "could motivate this group" but will now have further talks with the American owner.



He said: "It doesn't help when you're not popular with the fans, it puts extra pressure on people.

"I'm sure I'll be talking to the chairman over the next few days and we'll have to see where we are.

"I couldn't give it any more. I couldn't try any harder than I am at the minute and we just can't buy a goal.



"I would hope to continue but if other people don't then that's their decision. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

"Tonight we came up against a good team who were lethal.

"We came up here to get on with this game and I felt it was a big opportunity for me to show the chairman I could motivate this group and give me a platform to build on."

Millwall had started the game well enough but after Lee Gregory missed a one-on-one, Patrick Bamford struck to ease Boro's early nerves.

"There's no bad team in the Championship but at the moment we're one of the worst because of the run we're on," Holloway added.

"We had a great chance and didn't take it. They get one and wallop, it's a clinical finish. That's the difference. It was a great goal from their point of view, but we're gutted.

"You can see the lack of confidence once we missed the chance. Up until then it was good. I thought we did OK.

"The team looked like they wanted to play and wanted to create for me, then we miss a chance and it's the same old story. That's the way things are."

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194 thoughts on “I couldn't be trying harder says Millwall boss after defeat

  • March 3, 2015 at 23:44
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    Time to go Ollie .....for your own health.....give us a chance

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    • March 4, 2015 at 00:07
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      He's not going to resign by the sound of it. Has failed miserably and possibly now expects a pay-off. This is not going to end well

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      • March 4, 2015 at 05:54
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        @drifter: drifter I make you right he anit going to walk, as regards he cant work any harder I also agree, but he has brought a lot of new blood into the club atnd nearly all have not really worked, and secondly he is not the manager that he thinks he is i.e. not good enough.
        So JB you need to do your job and if you cant afford to sack him maybe suspend him and get someoneinside the club to take over untill the end of the season, as weseem to have nothing to loseas we are nearly down. Some new blood may be able to get the wins that we need to avoid the drop.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 04:05
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      @SE17 Lion: oh trust me Ollie, there are bad teams in the championship and they are called Millwall, Wigan and Blackpool. Sadly you are still in charge of Millwall and we have been poor all season. We need a new leader who will be direct and clear with what he wants and what he expects. You have had 35 games this season and are heading for relegation because of your leadership, your tactics and your style of play.......... It's time to go it really is.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 06:05
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      @SE17 Lion: rumour doing the rounds holloway wants to change mill wall's name to norfolk and chance fc.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 09:58
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        @TONY BLOCK28:
        I heard that it was going to be Novak n Good managed by John still and guess what , we would be....wait for it........ Still Novak n Good

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    • March 4, 2015 at 16:34
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      @SE17 Lion: your best aint good enough you have the worse record of any Millwall manager , you have been the highest transfer budget of any millwall manager and we still cant win

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  • March 3, 2015 at 23:44
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    "I felt it was a big opportunity for me to show the chairman I could motivate this group and give me a platform to build on."
    Now to me, that sounds like someone has had a word in his shell like. And, taking it a stage further, I think after Saturday he's gone. Either resigned or sacked. Is there enough games left to save us given we're technically 7 points adrift? Not sure. What I do know is that if things stay as they are, we're relegated.

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    • March 3, 2015 at 23:53
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      @NICKOLA: I've got a feeling they've given him a time period and it could well be the Norwich game that he has to save his skin.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 00:02
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        @The Roar: I don't think it's a time period with the Norwich game. I think he's been told ' Look, I've brought forward the re-vamp and it's cost a fortune. Get it sorted, get them moitivated-or else'. That was said before the Rotherham game I would think. The ONLY way we are going to stand even a remote chance of staying up is to remove Holloway. At the end of the day, stay up or get relegated, we can't keep him in charge and I would hope that even JB has finally smelt the coffeee over that one.

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        • March 4, 2015 at 10:10
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          @NICKOLA: Mr Holloway's work away from first team management has been praised and much money has been spent on the pitches at the training ground as a result of it. Sadly his work with the first team has been a dismal failure but such failure should not have been a surprise as he has always been useless.
          Nobody doubts that he is doing his best and nobody wants to see him ill. Nobody doubts that this will be his last job in football management and that any subsequent career in the media will require that he leave with some credibility.
          Nobody wants to see Mr Holloway walk away with a large amount of cash that could have been spent on a striker but he obviously needs to go because we are seeing a repeat of the Palace fiasco.
          So is the answer as Junkmale said to send him on garden leave or perhaps better just "promote" him to a new post as Director of Football, required to turn up each day and consider the future but have no day to day responsibility? Then get someone in to stage a recovery built on the Millwall way of old. Rarely the best but always the most determined. Any chance of getting Terry Hurlock fit for a few games?

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          • March 4, 2015 at 10:15
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            @Jzero: Who is this "Nobody"?

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          • March 4, 2015 at 11:11
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            @Jzero: Great post. Concise and intelligent, You should apply for the CEO post when it comes up. Don't think Ambler will survive the next cull.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 08:37
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        @The Roar: If that game goes the way of most of the previous 35 games then it will be too late to get someone in or promote from within to hopefully change our results, the personnel at the club are not up to Championship standard and he has a lot to answer for with the players he brought in to improve the squad.
        I think he is here until the bitter end and if and I do hope he does he manages to keep us up, he should still leave the club so they can appoint a new man and give him the full summer to hopefully get it right for next term.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 16:41
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        @The Roar: to be honest if they expect anything other than a defeat because that is what will happen if we are lucky me score a goal it will be even bettwr if a forward scores that would be a novelty

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    • March 4, 2015 at 00:18
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      @NICKOLA: Too little too late. There's little point in pulling the trigger now without a quality replacement waiting in the wings. If we stay up it will be a miracle whoever takes over - why waste the money paying Holloway to walk. Pisses me off as it will cost near to million to change over all the bloody staff again - the club should have spent that getting a decent striker and we would not be on this mess! ⚽️

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      • March 4, 2015 at 07:02
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        @TURBO_COYL: what they should have done is make him sign a get out clause based on results. His one of the highest earners in the league and was given the biggest budget of any millwall manager. You'd think he would sign a contract giving the club some leeway if he didn't perform given his confidence / ego/ "experience of getting clubs promoted"

        This once again is s*** management at boardroom level. When lomas went there was more than one candidate so why not negotiate with potential managers?? I reckon the meeting with ambler went something like..
        "Mr holloway would you like a cushy number with loadsa dough, and if it don't work out we'll pay you up the rest anyway"
        What would you say?

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        • March 4, 2015 at 08:31
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          @brockleysfinest: at the time of appointing Ollie the club was desperate (no change there) so I imagine they offered him whatever he asked for.

          To be fair the majority of us, myself included, wanted him as manager and even if it was just delaying the inevitable we did avoid relegation last season.

          All gone horribly wrong since of course.

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          • March 4, 2015 at 09:52
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            Just brought the kids some circus tickets online from seat wave printed them off says Millwall v Norwich see the best clown in the world OLLIE

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          • March 4, 2015 at 17:55
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            @MFC Lion: there's the problem.. "Offered him what he asked for"! Too much of a risk for a club with plenty of debt and s*** gates. You don't have to be on dragons den to see what a bad move that was. Highest paid manager that can't attract decent signings because the doughs been swallowed up on his wages..
            Was a shocking deal that we're now stuck with

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      • March 4, 2015 at 09:22
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        lets face it we have been bottom four in championship last four years and seen it coming we all felt Ollie was the one to push us forward with his previous record getting clubs promoted sadly it's all gone Pete tong. The players he brought in haven't been good enough we have picked players up from championship clubs who carnt even make their first teams how the hell were they going to make a difference to us. Money talks at end of day in all walks of life dosent matter who takes over the same financial restrictions will apply we won't sign any quality players only past sell date players. We are doomed Mr Mannering!

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    • March 4, 2015 at 08:37
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      @NICKOLA: They don't need to sack him. Just put him on gardening leave. He won't want the embarrassment of that and will bugger off of his own accord. We might have to pay his wages for a couple of months but his ego is too big to tolerate it for long

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      • March 4, 2015 at 13:01
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        @junkmale: it's my preferred option at the moment. If the man won't do the decent thing and walk make him carry on 'working' in a role that cannot influence the squad.

        He still gets JBs cash so why make it easy for him?

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  • March 3, 2015 at 23:47
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    The problem ollie is ,when we haven't won at home for 4 months and lost our last 4 out of 5, and are in the bottom 3, and can't score, millwall fans get angry about those sorts of thing's !!, # Ollie out.

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  • March 3, 2015 at 23:50
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    Ian please walk don't be stubborn you don't look well mate, we will be ok just let go, we are millwall and we've been here before its football it's not worth it your health is far more important

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    • March 4, 2015 at 10:37
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      @mewall62:
      you could be nurse with that sensitivity, well done, now where are my tissues ?

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  • March 3, 2015 at 23:50
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    I' have seen a better 'best before date' on a pint of milk than you Holloway. Do yourself a favour, Berylson a favour and all us wall fans a favour and F*** Off

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  • March 3, 2015 at 23:51
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    I went in the club shop this morning to pick up one of those over jester hats left over from the Wigan FA cup semi-final. It appears Holloway has taken the lot.

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  • March 3, 2015 at 23:56
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    If this is the best you can do, you're clearly not capable of doing this job. If you want to be popular with the fans, try winning more than one home game between August & April!

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  • March 3, 2015 at 23:57
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    Bircham left a weeks ago to take up an opportunity in America. Even he can smell your bull S*** Holloway from where he is now! DO ONE!

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  • March 4, 2015 at 00:00
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    Mr Holloway, please admit what is glaringly obvious - you cannot do this job no matter how hard you try! In fact the more you try, and the more you try to convince us that you are the right man for Millwall the more ridiculous your excuses and the worse the situation becomes.
    I don't doubt your effort, only your ability. Only when he is gone can I look forward with any hope; if not for this season, as I fear too much damage may have been done to save ourselves; then for future seasons. This club will not improve while Olly is still in his job.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 00:04
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    I'm just as depressed as everyone about Millwall at the moment, but i'm going to try and lighten the mood a little! Starting 11 for next season that, in my opinion, would have a good chance at winning the title in League one..... 4-4-1-1 formation
    GK - Archer
    RB - Cummings
    CB - Nelson
    CB - Goodman
    LB - New left back
    RM - Cowan-Hall (Excited to see Paris and Fred in the same team)
    CM - Williams
    CM - Upson
    LM - Gueye (If he decides not to throw his career away and lose some weight)
    AM - Fred (Think he could be our star player)
    ST - Gregory (Hasn't looked convincing, but i don't think he's had enough of a chance or enough service. Could be a big player for us in League one)

    Very young team, could probably do with a bit more experience in there so would maybe fit Dunne in over one of the CB's, but other than that i think this would be a refreshing, exciting and hard working team, also with enough quality to see us bounce back next year!

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    • March 4, 2015 at 00:46
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      @James_SE16:
      Win the league ! Haha. Your on crack mate. 2 inexperienced centre halves, an untried keeper who could be hit or miss, 2 weak centre midfielders who don't do anywhere near enough in either attack or defence, a left midfielder who's done nothing with us and looks like he could be another nguessen, and a striker who can't hit a barn door. Cracking line up.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 06:48
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        @82wall: spoke to someone close to Goodman and he was told he could find another club

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      • March 4, 2015 at 06:56
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        @82wall: spot on half that team are not good enough.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 00:08
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    B***** to you Holloway, your the mug who brought in Fuller, GTF, the HOFF and Gregory( who I thought would do well) and expected them to score goals?
    Your the mug who gave Fred to Wycombe, who has I think got the same amount of goals as the four above in about 12 games!!!
    Do the honourable thing and leave our club, you have made my Saturday's horrible this season and will only renew my ST, when you have done one, so f*** off you carrot cruncher

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  • March 4, 2015 at 00:21
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    Enough of this negativity buzzing around the place. I personally don't want to see anyone think we are down and out until the maths says we are, even you Ollie.
    We as a club need to pull together, YES EVERYONE, including the fans and STEP IT UP. Players need to take the chances, Holloway needs to pick the most effective XI and we the fans need to back them, even if you don't want to.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 00:27
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      @tsib24: Thanks Mr. Ambler for your thoughts.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 00:33
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        @NICKOLA: @NICKOLA: Well considering I saw some people say online that they would rather us get smashed 8-0 today so that Holloway would walk. Why would you jeopardise the clubs results just to get your own way?! Gotta think positive, dont want to go down without a fight. Not the Millwall I know?

        Thanks very much,
        Mr. Ambler

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        • March 4, 2015 at 00:38
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          @tsib24: Our best chance of surviving is for Holloway to go mate, and now. Then we can all get a bit of positivity.

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        • March 4, 2015 at 00:49
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          @tsib24: tsib i am withyou on this ,we dont go down without a FIGHT.

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          • March 4, 2015 at 01:09
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            @jim1222: Not acting on what is becoming increasingly obvious IS going down without a fight.

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        • March 4, 2015 at 00:51
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          @tsib24:
          No true millwall fan would want us to lose just to get a manager sacked, only a clueless c*** would want that. I have never ever wanted millwall to do anything other than win every single match we play, and preferably embarass the other team whilst we're at it. Sadly we haven't seen this in a while.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 00:35
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        @NICKOLA: I think it's Ollie using a pseudonym Nik

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    • March 4, 2015 at 00:50
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      @tsib24: Couldn't agree more. Negativity and any uncertainty at this stage of the season won't do anyone any good. The time during which we search for a new manager would seal our fate.
      On Ian Holloway, it is clear that we have been not been good enough on paper, particularly at home. Questions have to be asked why no progress has been made in 14 months. But the fundamental problems we are experiencing lie in the general sloppiness of the club in the last 3 years which started well before Jackett resigned.
      Things like our lack of ball retention, incompetence at defending and attacking set pieces - even basics like keeping men on the posts when corners come in have all cost us dearly. But, if you go back to the 2010 Play Off Final we at least had a team in which we could trust. A team that could deliver when it was most needed and was a tough nut to crack at home. A team with some proper Millwall players that played for the shirt and not the money and actually put the ball in the net! Sadly we've let most of these players go - Jackett started the bargain basement loan philosophy and we haven't let it go since!

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    • March 4, 2015 at 01:02
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      @tsib24: great post mate with u 100%. COYL....

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    • March 4, 2015 at 01:44
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      Get ready to hit the dislike button. This is my honest opinion and everybody's allowed there own and this is mine. Without Holloway last year we would of went down period. This season obviously aint gone to plan but if we get relegated then so be it, it's been a long time coming let's be honest we've been sliding 4 years. I would say from the last season KJ was in charge the rott began and now it's finally slapping us all in the face and Holloway's in the firing line we can blame the manager be he can only do so much, we blame the players they can only do so much. Let's be honest sacking Holloway will accomplish what?. A new manager will take ove. nd say we go down we won't blame him, we will blame Holloway but what happenes next season when the same s*** continues who we gonna blame then. We blamed Lomas even up until early this season then we started on Holloway now where on Holloway's back nd until early next season then it will be the next manger and so on. Give the man some time. How is he ment to build a proper team in 1 season with no budget. I could go on 4 ages in Holloway I trust.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 06:49
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        @JordieLion: so if you're not blaming the manager or players who do you blame?

        Or are we just shrugging our shoulders and saying it's just one of those things.

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        • March 4, 2015 at 23:03
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          @MFC Lion: I stand by my previous comments on here, that IH is PARTLY to blame.
          Unfortunately, such is the game of football today, MONEY is the key issue.
          POOR ATTENDANCES = NOT ENOUGH MONEY = AVERAGE PLAYERS

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      • March 4, 2015 at 09:12
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        @JordieLion: Have you been to any of the games. Of course its the Managers fault, he panics when there is no need to, changes tactics several times during a game, confuses the players, who are average to say the least, and then does the same thing the following week after admitting he was wrong in the previous game. I agree there is no guarantee with any new manager, but there is one guarantee with this one, we will get relegated, and he will not get us out of Lg1 next season or for many after that.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 09:18
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        @JordieLion: I agree with the majority of your points, the man to blame I believe is Andy Amber. When Lomas was appointed he was lumbered with Amber's pre-season signings and contract extensions. Morrison, Chaplow, Easter, Shittu etc. Lomas's budget was already blown he had to get out of contract signings. Then when Holloway arrived he summed up our situation with one of his first press conferences. He said it could take up to 5 years to build a team and he was right, I think we were lucky last season and unless we had a clear out at the beginning of this season we were on a hiding to nothing! We still haven't resolved the striker situation, which has been on going since before Jackett went and until this is solved were never be able to challenge in any division.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 10:57
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        @JordieLion: Your off your head why don't you go with him do us all a faver

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      • March 4, 2015 at 13:03
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        The fact you use terms like 'period' and text talk, I presume you're somewhat younger than most of us cynics on here. I admire your enthusiasm, but I think you're being deluded. For a start, Holloway only saved us last season after we came out of one of his unnecessary terrible runs. And secondly this man has no future in football management.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 00:37
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    It's good to talk.
    Talk talk.
    Talking talking talking happy talk.
    Talk the hind legs off a donkey.
    Ollie you've talked the talk now walk the walk and when you get home talk to frank.
    walk don't talk

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    • March 4, 2015 at 00:46
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      @lukesmithmfc: forgot to throw a bit of chaz n dave in the mix.
      You don't stop talking why don't you give it a rest. Rabbit rabbit rabbit rabbit rabbit.
      Ollie you've got more bunny than watership down.
      What a mouth what a mouth what a north and south.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 00:51
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    Please hollynob go now you've been found out you've been saying how long you 've been managing and keep saying no one wants to come millwallfc but the truth is that they don't want to play for you.the players that have played for you before could not put up with the changes and your tactics again and that's why we can't get the type of players you would like.rant over

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  • March 4, 2015 at 00:56
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    I feel terrible saying this, but there is no way we're going to survive now! We will now have to start again next season in League 1 with younger players Fred, Paris, Syd and some experienced players! I think like most at the beginning of the season IH was going to start to do good things, what has let us down is the fact we don't have a 15 goal a season striker, we've had plenty of chances to have won games that we've lost, if just 5 results had gone our way with a decent striker we'd be mid-table and safe!

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  • March 4, 2015 at 01:07
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    The teams that do well in the Championship KEEP the ball and have a long term plan in producing good players from their academy to play alongside more experienced players. Look at Brentford, Bournemouth and Burnley from last year. All three clubs have similar resources to us but seem to have built teams from scratch where experienced players play alongside young academy players, passing on their experience. As a result players play for one another, run for eachother - it's what you call playing as a team! Aside from the obvious financial losses, going down might help us to start from scratch again with or without a new manager. We might find that good league 1 players will do us more good than bargain basement championship players, let alone loan deals! Then, hopefully, we would come back as a fundamentally better championship team that could pull off one of Ollie's dreams!

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  • March 4, 2015 at 01:56
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    People still sticking up for Holloway and still blaming Jackett. Unbelievable.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 02:06
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    I was a fan of Ollie all the way through janurary clearing house getting some confidence back freeing up wages etc. but then Ollie more or less said our saviour in front of goal is a fat 40+ has been looking for a last paycheque that's when i i started to doubt I gave him a few games to see if we improved and we have got worse. We missed out on good players like woods mears Eubanks Blake etc all good players better than fletcher now I've accepted were goin down and just want our youth signed up and looked after as that's the only gem I can see in this mountain of s***

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    • March 4, 2015 at 21:28
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      @spartacus: don't disagree but where were we going to find the money from for one of those mentioned?

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  • March 4, 2015 at 02:11
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    JB- Ian ur gonna have to go mate
    IH- It's gonna cost ya!!!
    JB- No s***...
    IH- Either way, I walk or u sack me ur gonna be losing a million +
    JB- Ambler help I'm stuck
    IH- How about we use that million + and get dome real f****** footballers.

    Sacking Holloway will only mean millwall losing money they honestly don't have. We will be worse off once again we are truly f*****....

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  • March 4, 2015 at 02:12
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    *some

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  • March 4, 2015 at 04:05
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    Blah blah blah. See previous Ollie comments for every other time we have lost.

    If you cannot give anymore then that's all JB should need to hear to know that you're not up to the job.

    Now where is the article showing Fred's latest goal for Wycombe? (Actually not taking the p***, knowing that a young wall player is out there scoring on a regular basis is something to look forward to for next season.)

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  • March 4, 2015 at 05:15
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    It's easy ollie, football is about scoring more than the other team, we said a long time ago but a young striker but you didn't, there's your answer...d*******

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  • March 4, 2015 at 05:59
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    Whatever happens know, I personally think it's time to start a decent rebuild wherever that occurs. Time for every1 to really get behind the club. Clearly Ollie's position is at deaths door but the clubs the most important thing and setting a course for the future is now absolutely critical. I also have been agitated for ages with the constant lineup changes and seemingly lack of counter plans for emergency situations in games. The constant revolving door on the medical room which ya feel really has been caused by players possibly been underprepared. Anyway, as soon as I can I'm buying a membership and will continue 2 follow these pages and you people who are and have for generations been the backbone of this famous club. Staying up should be the no1 priority until it's impossible to do so but the mighty millwall will always be the pride of London .

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  • March 4, 2015 at 06:06
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    Go and take dunne with you and all the wall fans who think your a good at your job take them

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  • March 4, 2015 at 06:50
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    in a way I thinkgoing down will help us now the loan players and contract players can leave and we can start next season with Cummins,ParisUpson andWilliams from our team now plus the academy players Goodman Nelson Powell O Brien Pavey Fred Marquis add just a few experienced men to this and we have lift off.....most of these are Scot Fitzgeralds boys so he is the man to take over ,this wont cost much more cash but youve got a squad that would exite the fans ......I forgot Gregory hes been dissapointing but probably because of Ollie......

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    • March 4, 2015 at 09:45
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      @SE17 Lion: You can now see why contracts were allowed to run down and half the team made up of loan players, it looks like we have been preparing for div 1 for some time now.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 07:07
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    4/9 to be next manager to leave post, was
    evens after Rotherham match.

    Time to pack your bags Ollie, you don't need the grief of the home game this Saturday. It won't end well.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 07:15
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    I think now he has relegated us, he should be forced to see the season out.

    Middlesbrough have probably spent less than us this year and wil go up, Brentford are getting the same gates as us, if we were doing as well as them we would get 5k more.

    We don't wanta new manager having to take over a doomed team, it does them no favours.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 08:28
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      @wongo: Sorry I can't suffer another game with is tack ticks

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  • March 4, 2015 at 07:16
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    Like a lot of things in this world it is all about money and who blinks first.IH knows it is over but is deluded enough to expect a pay off (this is the self serving nature of the man).JB has accepted relegation and it's costs and shouldn't have to reward such miserable failure.IH will have to walk the gauntlet at the den and JB will have to accept tiny attendances and the risk of someone giving IH a clump.The people in the middle,the fans AND players will just have to endure untill it is over.All of thus could have been avoided if somebody at board level had their finger on the pulse,like they did at Leicester and Palace,where they stopped the man wreaking havoc.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 07:35
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    F off now!

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  • March 4, 2015 at 07:36
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    Leave him to finish the job then when were down go down the road and get Justin Edinburgh get rid of all the old dross and build a new young team with a young and up and coming manager

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  • March 4, 2015 at 07:43
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    I'm, like all fans, majorly unhappy at the moment. But the nonsense posted here has new pulling my hair out. They ate like YouTube comments, reading your opinions lowers my iq, I don't know why I do it.

    Talking about a 20 goal striker is easy. We all know we need one, everyone at the club knows. But locating, signing and affording one is a completely different conversation.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 09:17
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      @Pittsey: Totally agree, no one on here knows who the 20 a season striker is, and every team in the football league is looking for this nugget. When was the last time we had one of those?

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  • March 4, 2015 at 07:47
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    i dont dislike ollie but the fact is he has been trying to make us play a type of game with players that are not up to the task, 452 all day long and the chopping and changing and players out of position has cost us. January clear out has not helped so really he has to go. If i daid to my boss i am trying my hardest but it aint work he would sack me and i would get f*** all. For his own sanity and ours he needs to go before saturday as i believe a baying mob will turn it ugly. Let Harris take over until the end of the season and if by some miracle we stay up then he is our man for the job if we go down he could still be the man for the job as the young players will be our team in league 1

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  • March 4, 2015 at 08:00
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    Good morning the sun is shining and it looks like a good day. Putin has gone quiet because of all the marchers opposing his political views after the death of the leader of the opposition. We are sorting Iran out or at least Israel is and hopefully we are dealing with ISIS - are they related to ICELAND THE FREEZER PEOPLE. Do all of you think OLLIE wants to be in this position do you think he is not trying his best and has Wall at heart - I can assure you he is. STICK WITH OLLIE I SAY AND NEXT YEAR HE MIGHT HAVE LOTS OF LOLLIE. Norwich Sat and in football nothing is certain and yes with a bit of luck we can beat them - imagine what that would do for morale (not sure where he plays) but it would be magic. SO IT WILL BE A BIG CROWD WITH THE NORWICH FOLLOWING GET TO THE DEN AND GIVE IT LARGE IN CHEERING ON THE WALL. You just never know. Headlines to come GREAT RUN LIKE LAST YEAR SEES MILLWALL STAVE OFF RELEGATION - next year we will get promoted!!!!!! Positive VIBES.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 08:11
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      @Mekongriver: positive vibes yeah ....effort and hope,get stuck in ,Ollie is doing his best yeah.....you cant beat FATE....unfortunetly.....

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    • March 4, 2015 at 08:18
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      @Mekongriver: well said cos i'am sick of all this mourning on here we aint dead yet.even if some fans have already got there spades out ..for the record i think he is in a puddle of s*** and aint got the boots for it...much to my dislike of the man i still hope he does a good job..
      LET EM ALL COME DOWN TO THE DEN.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 08:20
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      @Mekongriver: haha I hope so. People on here are so negative and think we have a god given right to finish mid table in the Championship. If as much passion was shown on a Tuesday night in CBL we might be able to generate an atmosphere instead of criticising at the first miss placed pass. If we sack Holloway now which looks likely we are accepting relegation. Harris and Fitzgerald come in and the players have a jolly until the end of the season. What would be the point in that when the money for IH pay off could be used to get some staff in the clubshop and ticket office with a personality! See you Saturday where no doubt after we go 1 down it will be a lovely positive atmosphere and we'll all get behind the troops like the good old days and let them know we're not going down without a fight. #comerainorshine

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  • March 4, 2015 at 08:09
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    Couldn't try harder! Then why on Saturday 24th January when we didn't have a game but our next opponents were playing did you decide to go shopping in Beckenham instead of watching the game between Cardiff and Reading. Not fully committed

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    • March 4, 2015 at 08:53
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      @Bones: Not sticking up for the clown but Cardiff played Reading on Friday night, even I went shopping on the Saturday.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 09:05
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        @Jimmy Abdous Hip: you had me doubting myself the FA Cup match between the two teams was definitely that Saturday I've just double checked the reading website and they played that Saturday at Cardiff

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  • March 4, 2015 at 08:13
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    Holloway has produced a real negativity around the club.
    He can not get the players motivated, it sounds like something has
    been going on behind the scenes. Chopping and changing the players
    and formations has drained all confidence. Not scoring goals is only
    one of the problems, we ship them in as well. If we go down
    with him in charge, the doom will still be at the club. He has done
    to much damage for anyone to have any confidence in him for next season,
    and it will possibly be more of the same.

    If he is gone before Norwich, it might help lift the doom a bit
    if nothing else.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 08:20
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    I think the title of this post says it all, "nobody is trying harder than me". Maybe that's the problem, you're trying too hard, if you leave 99.9% of managers/caretakers won't try as hard, they will just settle and calm, when you concede you try too hard by changing formation, you try too hard by mixing up the players, you try too hard to be a tactical genius that confuses opposition. No 99.9% will not try, they will tell the team to play as they know they can in the best positions and keep them there.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 08:31
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    You have your ordered players and trying your best and still we are losing every bloody game. I know changing manager will not help our chances of staying up but we have to start building for next year.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 08:45
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    On Saturday OUR players are are going to want to come out and try and get off to a good start and I'll be supporting them. To all the hate mob save your nonsense for when the game is over. I want retribution for Boxing Day, and a win can put pressure on Rotherham. We have got to try and take this relegation battle to the last day when anything can happen. And how anyone can want our team to lose because of Hollaway is shameful.
    The rip roaring lions are gonna win sooner or later, let's hope it's Saturday

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    • March 4, 2015 at 09:48
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      @bollocky: You have a great name there, your talking it. we have more chance going up this season.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 08:50
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    Look no matter if IH goes or stays no way will we ever compete in this Division again without mega money in the news today Leicester paid there players 9.4 million in bonus money when they got promoted that plus the wages that they pay their players.

    we have to believe in a miricle worker or keep getting over the hill freebies that's what you get when you shopp in the bargain bucket

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    • March 4, 2015 at 11:11
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      @kell: It was always going to become more difficult for us to stay in this league with the amount of money other clubs have, and the more that come down from the premiership with their parachute payments. The gap between premiership/championship and league 1 & 2 is only going to get bigger and bigger.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 08:52
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    He has to go now and not after ANOTHER thrashing by Norwich Saturday.
    I still say he should of resigned a while ago to give a new Manager a chance.
    At least if he goes now it will save a Anti-Holloway feel on Saturday and the crowd will concentrate on the players.
    I still think we are down - but what have we to lose.
    IH just admit you are doing a poor job,players are not playing for you and you have made some really poor signings.
    Over to you JB.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 08:55
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    I was pleased he played the same team last night as from the week-end, I would not be displeased if IH kept it the same for this coming Saturday but IH could tweak it a little by putting Williams as CB, Dunney to RB and bring Bailey in alongside Tonge, all we need to do is look at the next match not worry about relegation or next season that will take care of it self, I do not care if IH stays or goes but if he stays then we should get behind the team on Sat, COYL

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  • March 4, 2015 at 09:06
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    "I couldn't be trying harder "...........................I dont doubt it - and I am sure that Lee Gregory says the same thing every week BUT and its a big but - you need to ne more than just a trier to have success in the Championship - you need talent / ability - and the manager and the forward line are sadly lacking in the talent department.
    Its not just Gregorys fault - but he has been our main striker all season - and we are where we are because of the managers incompetance and the fact that we cannot score a goal. The rest of the team isnt great - but probably good enough to have stayed up - its just the manager and no strilkers

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  • March 4, 2015 at 09:12
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    This will be Farmer Parmers's 4th relegation, if he had stayed at Palace & Plymouth, his 6th. Even though Palace finished mid table once Pulis came in. My big problem now though is his pay off, he deserves a bucket of s*** poured over his head but is going to get a £1m pay off. Do the right thing, tear up your contract & stick to media work

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  • March 4, 2015 at 09:15
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    Thing is you can't make Gregory score.Not even IH can do that.
    Looks like we bought a dud to me.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 09:24
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      @Millwallsteve: harris and morison were the sane.infact i dont think most thoyght these 2 were duds..same goes for teddy ..how long did he take to come good. .

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      • March 4, 2015 at 10:07
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        @Jim28: teddy used to get seriously cunted when he was learning his trade "flash this and that"
        Don't think as bad nowadays, they do it on a keyboard now

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    • March 4, 2015 at 09:50
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      @Millwallsteve: Did Chelsea buy a dud when they bought Torres from Liverpool? Or did something about the way they play or run the club lessen his effectiveness and drain his confidence?

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  • March 4, 2015 at 09:24
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    I might get slaughtered for this but if and when we do go down how about Teddy Sheringham? Obviously working well at the soon to be east london mosque! Could possibly make a great manager and knows all about Millwall.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 09:25
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    I might get slaughtered for this but if and when we do go down how about Teddy Sheringham? Obviously working well at the soon to be east london mosque could possibly make a great manager and knows all about Millwall.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 09:30
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    I might get slaughtered for this but if and when we do go down how about Teddy Sheringham? Obviously working well at the scabs, possibly make a great manager and knows all about Millwall.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 09:32
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    Erm sorry about the repeats it wasnt letting me send but obviously it did!

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  • March 4, 2015 at 09:41
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    If that's trying his hardest wouldn.t that tell you it's time f**k off your hardest is nowhere near Goodenough for this club.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 10:25
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    Mr.Holloway,
    I can't speak for everyone on here, only for myself. However, the general feeling is that the ship has sunk. You've had a good playing career. an indifferent management one but you're not alone in that. Now is the time to call it a day. You can make a very good living in journalism and step away from the stress of managing. You don't look well and whilst it's appreciated that you've tried your best, it hasn't worked out and it is time to call it a day.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 10:34
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    One concept I agree with of IH's is creating a universal playing style at all levels and recognising the need for youth development (he didn't get rid of old players last Summer and that was a big failure). I cannot knock him for this for this specific idea. But it hasn't worked out well for the first team due to a lack of budget and a lack of his ability to go back to a basic structure/swallowing his pride. I suspect he will be given until Chrismas next; it's not wishful thinking, but we don't need to look too far back into history to see regular turnovers of managers is not good either and we may not be able to afford to sack him. We're stuck between a rock and hard place. It could be the board are hoping we'll be in the top 2 come Christmas, but more likely in 16th.

    He looks gaunt to me, exhausted, which suggests he really is trying, but it is not working. Maybe he needs to think about his health here.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 10:45
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      @SE14: When it was rumoured we were getting Ollie I was concerned, he looked spent at Palace and to come to us so soon maybe me worried that he hadn't taken enough time to recharge his batteries. I am not happy to admit that I was correct, he has struggled with this very difficult situation, an aging and under performing squad with majority of players running out of contract, it would have taken a miracle to turn that round, or they should have had the overhaul last summer to give him a fighting chance. Having said that, some good players have passed through the club during his tenure, and is the trade mark of every good manager that they get players to perform above their expected ability levels. Ollie doesn't seem to have improved many players during his time with us, we have seen good players drop in form though and subsequently leave the club. We need to get Goodman back and give him a chance, we also need to ensure Fred extends his deal and maybe even try to convince Marquis that he has a future at our club.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 10:44
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    With IH saving us last season he was our saviour! This season it Gregory had scored just 6 more goals and we'd then converted draws into wins IH's job would be safe, we would then be backing him to build a Millwall team for the future and calling him a miracle worker for doing it on a tight budget. When it comes down to it we've failed because we don't have a striker who can score 15-20 goals in the season. This is partially because of the FFP that's going to effect us next season! COYL

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    • March 4, 2015 at 11:05
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      @CGLR53: why Gregory? Why not just the whole team?

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      • March 4, 2015 at 11:44
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        Why Gregory? Just because he's a striker, it's not a condemnation of the lad, the goals could come from anywhere really, but just 6 goals!

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  • March 4, 2015 at 10:46
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    We need to keep Holloway and support him!

    I know we're doing s*** but if we get him who else will come in? He's a proven quality manager. I reckon he should stay regardless of what happens this seasons, and if things are still bad by Jan 2016 then its time to go but I still think he needs more time and it doesn't help when the players don't care either

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    • March 4, 2015 at 11:03
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      what a load of nonsence you have just posted....its like saying you might as well keep your hand in a burning fire because you are not sure it would be a wise move to take it out.

      I think the people on here who have clarity on the issue, accept that these are reall dark days for Millwall.
      Relegation is not just an inevitability now, it is almost a requirement because it will have to be the catalyst for the tutrnaround. Whilst everyone might not agree with my thinking that Berylson must carry the ultimate can for inadequate funding, and poor appointments, lack of ambition when Kenny could have pushed us on etc. Berylson saw real estate potential the buying and funding of the club was a pre-cursor to his property pay day.....the council scuppered that he now needs an exit strategy.

      As regards Jollyaways comments ...read them again, he has basically said there is no more he can do, he has lost the players as well, he is more or less saying to Berylson '' you must sack me and pay me off''......maybe like Kenny Jollyaway has seen through Berylson as well. I can not think of one positive that Jollyaway can bring to the club by hanging around for another day.....we are the laughing stock of football, we are getting relegated, read his post again he is throwing in the towel. If he stays he will only further damage the club, contaminate the youngsters, create an even more toxic enviorenment....and make it harder to get any kind of quality replacement. Everyday that he hangs around now piles on the recovery work that Millwall FC will have to undergo......Jollyaway wont be here, most of the players wont be here, and hopefully if he cuts his losses, stays in america, and sells the club cheap then Berylson wont be here.

      The one bright note is the few promising youngsters, jimmy abdou, and us the fans will still be here.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 12:03
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        @tonytowneronthewing: I think Ryan0738 is making a good point because whether you agree or not, there is a very real chance that something is very openly discussed behind the scenes. IH was never expected to save us last year, and there may well be an agreement that his job was safe even in the event of relegation.

        So agreeing with Ryan0738 or not, the observation made with respect to waiting until next January might be a reality. You can't argue either at the difficulty we will have in attracting a good manager. Also, I think IH has given younger players a bigger chance than KJ ever did, albeit with mixed messages. Fred may come back and be brilliant in the 3rd tier for us and we may thank IH one day for this. Let's hope he does come back!

        Obversations, not opinions, because it seems like it is un-PC to talk about IH in any other way than totally negative...

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  • March 4, 2015 at 10:51
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    We all know we are down. So play lets more youngsters now in preparation for next season. NOLU

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  • March 4, 2015 at 11:01
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    Oh bugger ! Why has no one warned me that unless we get 3 points on Saturday we cant make the playoffs .................... Regards Ollie

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  • March 4, 2015 at 11:04
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    All this talk about Millwall need a proven goal scorer, well it's all rubbish, smoke and mirrors!!
    SWFC have the exact same number of goals as Millwall this season and they are 10th.....
    So, how bout build from the back and try not to concede so many sloppy goals and don't just blame the strikers.. You win together, you lose together!!
    It's all about balance and using what you got and unfortunately we have A stubborn manager that wants to play a system that he doesn't have the players for.. ie square pegs, round holes
    He wont change..

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    • March 4, 2015 at 11:47
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      @ettieneverveer: You are surely right. I would like to see Millwall as a team that does not concede often so is hard to beat and is a threat on a breakaway or set piece.

      And this can be done, defenders are relatively cheap and defence is largely organisation. Play 442 with players that know what to do and know what their team mates expect them to do and have pace up front. The front men haven't even got to be that great, just fast.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 13:26
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      @ettieneverveer: that's actually a very good point.

      It would be very boring to watch admittedly. Finding decent defenders and playing a tight hard to score against formation easier than finding that elusive (non existent?) cheap but prolific goal scorer.

      Ollie doesn't play like this though, Blackpool and Palace it was always a try and outscore the opposition job. Unfortunately we can only manage the goals conceded bit at the moment.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 11:11
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    confidence makes an average team good & a bad team average, unfortunately thanks to Holloway our team is devoid, that is why we need to get rid!!!!!!!!

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  • March 4, 2015 at 11:16
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    Can someone please start work on a good pub and beer guide for these places we'll be visiting next season. Any recommended B&B's also would be appreciated. Been a while since I've been to Bristol. Last time we all ended up in the 'Bristo Disco' when the barman thought it a good idea to vault over the bar and hit what he thought was the only Millwall supporter in residence. Unpleasantries ensued as you can imagine.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 11:18
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    Agree with @tonytowneronthewing and @ettieneverveer
    We've kept a lot of clean sheets, but when we do concede we concede 3+, so what use is that.
    Can't see IH quitting, as he won't get his payoff. So its basically up to JB to sack him. Which I can't really see happening at this point.

    I said when IH was appointed that I couldn't see it going well. He's a man manager, but his tactics (or lack thereof) and refusal to play players in their best position/drop Dunne has been a major issue.

    For far too long we have played 1 up front at home, which he now seems to have changed but too little too late. We aren't going to get 7 more points than Rotherham the rest of the season. We will also finish below Wigan.

    We are an embarrassment right now...

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  • March 4, 2015 at 11:28
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    The problem is honesty. Why hasn't the guy who writes this site mentioned the amount of 'you'll be sacked in the morning' chants over the last month? Why did he forget to write what Ollie said about Gregory at the press conference? I understand you have to stay in a job, but we need honest journalism. In the stats page for Boro game, you called Dunne our star man? We need honesty at our club or people who know what they are talking about. Sorry for the HONESTY.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 11:42
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    Ollie has supposedly done a lot of organising behind the scene youth development etc.....if thats true maybe thats JBs role for him to save his compensation.....but I wouldnt let him near the first team squad again.......If hes the man he says he is I think he should walk away and forget any pay off to get respect from not being a wage thief.....

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  • March 4, 2015 at 11:44
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    oli oli oli what have you done ? watching my Millwall used to be such fun
    you filled our hearts with hope that day not long ago
    when you signed on the dotted line you were gonna be a hero
    we believed your plan cos you were the man who had it all sorted
    now you may have to leave the den, probably escorted.

    you lost us with you tinkerings and your team selection
    we are not all pop music fans but were going in one direction
    it's been almost 50 years when my love for this club begun
    but you and the board killed everything that made it so much fun.

    The heart has gone the passions gone the spirit and the pride
    the over weight and useless have come here for a ride
    our greatest heroes from the past like Cripps, Kitch, Hurlock and King
    they had the fight, they had the guts, the had the fire within
    they knew what to do for us and that is NEVER GIVE IN.

    COME ON YOU LIIIIIIIOOOONNNNNSSSSSS

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  • March 4, 2015 at 12:31
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    Never give up.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 12:38
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    thank you lads, it's like you love someone and they can't stand the sight of you, they will do all they can to hurt you, to make you miserable and worthless, that's how I feel at the moment.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 12:55
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    We've been hanging on for the past 2 previous seasons and we've been lucky that in those seasons there have been at least 3 other teams worse than us. This is now our time ... there has been a lot wrong with the playing squad for some time.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 13:28
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      @Kitch29: Are u off your head IH as had the time to sort all that out if that was the case why it get Micky mouse instead of coco the clown

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      • March 4, 2015 at 14:54
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        @lionheart: who sorts out all the problems then?

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    • March 4, 2015 at 13:31
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      @Kitch29: Even if by some unlikely miracle we was to stay up we will only have to endure another season of the same s***, we just do not have the finances to survive in the Championship. We have done well to survive as long as we have but the Championship is becoming the Premiership tier 2 with all the parachute payments etc and clubs like ours are being squeezed out. I know people will mention Bournemouth and Brentford but their backers are putting more cash in and are more ambitious. There are bigger supported clubs in div 2 that couldn't hack it in the Championship.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 15:07
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        @Sealion: preciaely my point ... I'm not being defeatist by a long chalk but what is it people are hoping for? Another new manager to come in and save us then transform our fortunes next year? It's NOT going to happen! KJ kept us in the Championship on a smaller budget than most, with crowds 3, 4 maybe even 5 thousand lower than mid-table clubs.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 13:25
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    Reading quotes from Holloway these last few days,
    are kinda not very positive, in that he thinks, he can't turn it around.
    Too many negatives and hard luck stories.
    Looks like he want's to get the hell out of Dodge City.
    IH won't walk, he want's the pay off.
    JB won't push, it will cost to much.
    It's a stand off at the OK Corral, and more than likely
    to the end of the season, when someone will fire first.
    Hideous situation Millwall Football club has put it's self into.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 13:34
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      @lowdown: Lets hope it doesn't turn out like the Alamo.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 13:36
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      @lowdown:
      Of course Holloway getting sacked ain't a disaster for him.
      His PR spin will go into overdrive.
      He can use the old chestnut "not given enough time",
      no budget. etc. And as always - blame the fans.
      Not to mention a million plus better off.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 13:36
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    Seems a long long time ago since we beat leeds at the beginning of the season with great optimism for the season, infact for Ollie & us it may have been better if we had gone down last season, know one would have blamed him for that , Lomas would have carried the can for that one. However Ollie had all summer to sort out what & where he wanted to go , I believe Ollies first failure was trusting certain players to wear the Millwall shirt again this season, players who were never up to the job, Ollies second failure was to land a decent striker before the season started, I suppose you have to question why we never landed Matt Smith from leeds !! so to me the writing was on the wall especially after the Bradford game & Ollie confirmed to us how bad the situ was by getting rid of 7 or so players & bringing in 6 others , a last throw of the dice you could say. I cant see any rewards for Ollie to stay , there are no plus's if he stays & we do avoid relegation (highly unlikely) where & what is MFC go from there ..keep him again for another season !! & go through this again !! . Please go Ollie , tried your best didn't work out, wish you well - enough said

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  • March 4, 2015 at 13:42
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    Food for thought People , We / Millwall have a great reputation in matureing managers , to my knowledge McCarthey played for us at the back & has had a good record as a manager with us , albeit before he p***ed off & left us for the republic of Ireland job, Rhino & McCleary did a wonderful job at bringing the youngsters through & bought a cracking squad together only for Mcghee to take the rewards, also look at Mr Dyche at Burnley who has done a good job for them as well - bring back Robbo & get him started with the youngsters

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  • March 4, 2015 at 13:46
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    From the stands come Saturday 2mins into second half in protest everyone get up and walk out for 5 mins to the Concorse below as a show of fans disaproval
    Then come back up and roar the lions to victory

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    • March 4, 2015 at 14:28
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      @southstand: iam still at the bar 2 mins into the second half

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  • March 4, 2015 at 14:21
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    To my mind there is only one solution to solve Millwall's future and that is dismiss Holloway and recruit asap a new younger manager. Why? This will give a new manager time to assess the team structure and players as they are now (rather than the start of next season) Whether the team are relegated or not the new manager will have time to do what he thinks is needed to improve the squad, tactics, scouting, let those not needed to depart and bring in some new faces. He will then have the entire close season to weld a decent squad together. The thought of IH remaining in charge is depressing, a new face in charge is urgently needed, it is crazy to let IH hang on, he has run out of ideas and is only prolonging the misery.
    Give the players and fans some new hope and something to look forward too, getting in a new manager now will also give him the time to rebuild.

    The Holloway lover on here are the ones who are negative thinkers, be positive, think change for the better.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 14:23
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    For those people who support Holloway, he picks the team, buys players suggest loan players
    and sorts out the tactics. His tactics are diabolical, he has bought and loaned not even second rate players and chops and changes the team at will. We will see on Saturday what the crowd reaction is I personally think he will come under a great deal of abuse. Of course we will support the team on Saturday but if Norwich turn up on the day we will get hammered they are looking to get into the first two and are in tremendous form. I dread to think what some of these players earn a week. Does anyone know?

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    • March 4, 2015 at 15:48
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      @denniswilliamson: We've had a largely unchanged team since Fulham. Damned if he does, damned if he doesnt. Another fan will be asking why he hasnt changed the team as we keep losing. Wages - we are definitely not paying our players half of what the average Norwich player earns.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 14:35
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    Right, ALL of you lot calling for IH's head need to be called out. I'm fed up of the braineless ones being the loudest. You do NOT sack a manager for petty short term reasons, its absolutely ridiculous that you cannot see further than the end of the current season. Losing IH now or at the end of the season is the worst thing that could happen to this club and if you can't see that, you are an absolute clown. IH was brought here to turn this club around over a long period of time - it will not happen overnight and given the state that we were in, I dont think you can expect any manager to have done any better in a season. Staying in this division is a bonus. The key is rebuilding the club as a whole and you wont get any other managers with the Championship and Premiership experience IH has that are willing to do that job for us, so shut up and support your club.

    Let's put your theories to the test - if you want IH to go, tell us this:

    Who could we get in as manager?
    What makes you think they would do a better job than IH is capable of doing next season?
    How long would you give them to settle in and assess the squad?
    If they lose their first five games next season, would you want them sacked?

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    • March 4, 2015 at 14:53
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      @StanLDN: so we are wrong ...every fan in the country is wrong every club in the country is wrong ....all managers are right and you are right is that what youre saying ....dont ever run a buisness ....Ollie would not have been unemployed if hes as good as you believe....

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      • March 4, 2015 at 15:53
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        @SE17 Lion: Where have you got "every fan in the country" from? I have only spoken about IH, where have you got "all managers" from? Thanks for your life advice, I'll treat it the same way I treat your ridiculous opinion on IH and my club.

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        • March 4, 2015 at 16:02
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          @StanLDN: you must be Ollies lovechild if you think hes a good manager....you are as stupid as him.....and by the way its not YOUR club its OUR club....,

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          • March 4, 2015 at 23:49
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            @SE17 Lion: it doesn't matter what I think about him as a manager, because he has a proven track record at this level. He has made bad decisions and has been guilty of over promising and under delivering. However, he has also been incredibly unlucky. Neither makes him a bad manager. And there's no need to start throwing petty insults around.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 15:10
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      @StanLDN: "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." Why was Lomas sacked?

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      • March 4, 2015 at 16:01
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        @lion.ie: Are you seriously comparing IH to Lomas?! Why not compare him to KJ while you're at it. Lomas is exactly the reason we can't get rid of IH. He had never managed a club in the Championship, had no idea or experience of running the wider club beyond the starting 11 and had the fans on his back and putting up banners saying "F*ck off Lomas" before he even set foot in the stadium. He was a gamble that didn't pay off and he is probably a much better candidate than anyone that would be half interested in managing us if we get rid of IH now - think about that! You lot were all slagging off Steve McClaren when he was in the running for the job - look where he is now. Most of the loudest ones on here get their information from the terraces and not from their own brains. Clueless.

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        • March 4, 2015 at 16:51
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          @StanLDN: Like I quoted, "You can fool.........", and still no solid answer from Holloway's gang re why was Lomas sacked. This is because he was sacked for all of the reasons that you are defending Holloway against, bad signings, bad tactics, inability to motivate his team and most of all shocking results. Holloway is clueless and the fact that he has more experience in this division makes him more clueless than Lomas.

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          • March 4, 2015 at 23:56
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            @SE17 Lion: it doesn't matter what I think about him as a manager, because he has a proven track record at this level. He has made bad decisions and has been guilty of over promising and under delivering. However, he has also been incredibly unlucky. Neither makes him a bad manager. And there's no need to start throwing petty insults around.@lion.ie: you are being ridiculous if you expected IH or anyone to come along this season and do well with our squad and budget. This is about managing expectations. He is here to to a 5 year job, not a one year job.

            I thought I was pretty clear on Lomas. I think he was sacked because he was a gamble in the first place and the board doubted his capability to do well. That doubt isn't there with IH because he HAS done well with clubs of our size at this level. Like him or not, that's a fact. That is why I think he deserves more time.

            Your turn to answer my questions.

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          • March 4, 2015 at 23:58
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            @lion.ie: you are being ridiculous if you expected IH or anyone to come along this season and do well with our squad and budget. This is about managing expectations. He is here to to a 5 year job, not a one year job.

            I thought I was pretty clear on Lomas. I think he was sacked because he was a gamble in the first place and the board doubted his capability to do well. That doubt isn't there with IH because he HAS done well with clubs of our size at this level. Like him or not, that's a fact. That is why I think he deserves more time.

            Your turn to answer my questions.

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        • March 4, 2015 at 19:05
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          @StanLDN: yes very unfair comparison.

          lomas was disliked before a ball had been kicked, he was ex hammer and had ginger hair. He was also lacking ANY experience of managing a championship club let alone a Prem club.

          Yet despite all of this he has a better win ratio for wall than your great mate Holloway!

          What level of failure is required from him to register with you?

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    • March 4, 2015 at 15:13
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      @StanLDN: Well said that man! I looked at a list of managers on the BBC Sport website today of all the football league managers and how long they had been in their jobs. Barring 2 or 3 (Wenger, Tisdale, Robinson) the top end of the scale was 3 maybe 4 years ... this is the state of the game. Any success (promotion ot keeping a team up when they were doomed) is short lived.

      Agreed we've fallen way below standards this seaso but is that soley IH's fault. Is he responsible for the guile shown on the pitch or is that down to the individual?

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      • March 4, 2015 at 16:03
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        @Kitch29: Exactly.Its refreshing to read an opinion that is actually backed up and isn't knee jerk.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 15:14
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      @StanLDN:

      That's all well and good, stability can go a long way.
      BUT
      IH has no idea about tactics or personnel, and we could end up in League 2/bankrupt. He has been here over a year now, brought in and got rid of many many players.
      But we are now in a worse position than last season, where we weren't in the relegation zone as much as we have been this season.

      There are a few people we could get as manager (Gary Johnson, Darren Ferguson etc.) or we could give it to Harris until the end of the season and see how he does. He honestly can't do any worse.
      I think he would do better because IH has lost our confidence. The players often look like they have no idea what they're doing, can't buy a goal, can't defend set pieces etc. A new manager can instill some confidence and belief in the team.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 16:20
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        @JBMMFC: "we could end up in League 2/bankrupt" where the hell has that come from?! This is how this scaremongering witch hunt starts. Someone on here makes a stupid comment like that and someone else repeats it as gospel. That is a completely unfounded and ridiculous statement. How much more of an idea would anyone who we could possibly get in have? Far less than IH, I can guarantee that.

        Look below us. Wigan is a team that was in the Prem and the FA Cup winner not long ago and has chopped and changed their manager. Blackpool have been on a downwards spiral ever since IH left them - after, lets not forget, he dragged them from nowhere to the PL. You need some perspective - this year's league is far stronger than lasts.

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        • March 4, 2015 at 18:05
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          @StanLDN: I get it ...youre just a bloke who likes to disagree with anyone ....whatever their view....its a mental problem you have to live with

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          • March 5, 2015 at 00:03
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            @SE17 Lion@SE17 Lion: so I should just agree with the crowd even if I think it's stupid? I Have never said anywhere that I think he has done well. My point is that there isn't anyone that will come to our club who is equipped to do better and telling managers to f*** off when they are on a bad run is brainless.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 15:25
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      @StanLDN: "You do NOT sack a manager for petty short term reasons"

      Quite right but you probably do sack one who can't motivate his players, keeps signing old farts doubling up the same position, praises players one week only to drop them the next, chops and changes formations every week whilst trying to impose patterns the team can't understand let alone summon up the skills to cope with, fails to attract decent new replacements, makes panic substitutions left right and centre and insists on selecting an alarmingly unreliable keeper every single week. Oh and also costs an arm and an leg for all final product whatsoever.

      Neither do you help your case by slagging off and insulting people whio happen to disagree with you. They are entitled to their opinion just as you are - despite your view being, IMHO, totally misguided

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      • March 4, 2015 at 15:29
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        @The Humble One:
        That should of course be "naff" all final product.
        At least I think that's the acceptable word?

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      • March 4, 2015 at 15:40
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        Spot on with your summary. Despite all the efforts to turn things around we have simply made no progress.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 16:00
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        @The Humble One: We, as club, fail to attract decent new signings. We have for a long time and will continue to do so and that, again, is not solely down to our manager. I've seen Gary Johnson and Darren Ferguson mentioned as replacements ... f*ck me some people are deluded. Both have been unable to "motivate" players a level below ours, why are they more suitable characters?

        "Give it to Harris until the end of the season" .. yeah brilliant, what a master stroke.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 16:02
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        @The Humble One:
        @JBMMFC:
        This is a really tricky situation - I tend to agree with @StanLDN:

        Stability is the most important thing we need at the moment.....
        easy for me to say from the other side of the world...... but I think we are damned if we do, damned if we don't in sacking Holloway, who seems to be feeling the pressure and expectation of the job (no matter how unfounded the expectations are).

        Get rid of him? who replaces/who would want the job (who was not in it for the dough?)
        Realistically - who would we get? an untried 'hungry' young manager?
        Harris? is he ready?
        or someone with a bit of class:
        Guardiola - can we afford him?
        or someone out of a job:
        Pearce - would we want him?

        The writing has been on the wall for the last couple of seasons - relegation was only a matter of time... as they say "cream floats to the top' and the players over the last couple of years seem to have been the dregs.........

        Yes Holloway has brought forward the clear out -but I think this was hitting the panic button- drinking in last chance saloon to try and sty up - and I don't think you can blame the man for that - desperation, and let's face it these are desperate times..... he's only a man, not the messiah.
        maybe relegation last year would have been better as Stanldn suggests - no-one would have blamed IH for that, and would have been more patient when he put 'his' team together.

        I though as I watched the video against rotherham - look at the body language of the players coming out of the tunnel - not one of them looks up - all heads down - this side looks beat before the ball gets kicked

        History mean nothing, the present is where we are and the future is where we are going.
        Could Millwall under IH be any worse at the moment? but honestly, can you see it being any better with anyone else who would/could/we can afford/ etc?

        I do agree that it's IH's job to motivate the players, but they have to take some of the blame (even if some of those are no longer at the club) - which IH was commended for moving on.

        I've not given up on survival, but who could realistically save us? this team needs roaring on from the best supporters in the land, so they can fight to the end...

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    • March 4, 2015 at 16:28
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      @StanLDN: Answer to your quetions

      1 a manager who is not over the hill like Holoway, someone younger with brains and a bit of ambition. Plenty out there.
      2 What makes you think a new manager would not do a better job?
      3. The sooner a new manager starts the better he would have all of the close season to alter things around.
      4. Would you want Holloway sacked if he lost the first five games next season? Hasn't the team lost enough under his stewardship.

      Holloway has been a disaster and I see all the so called Holloway lovers are trying to deflect criticism of him on here despite his appalling record.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 16:34
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      @StanLDN: In many ways Holloway would have been under less pressure had he failed to keep us up last season. It was somewhat of a miracle and it gave a lot of fans an unrealistic expectation for this season. If you look back some poor deluded fools were mentioning the playoffs. I feel an idiot for thinking we would stay up this season but there you go.

      Even if he had a long term plan (5years I think he mentioned) to improve the team at the very least that would mean matching last season and staying in the Championship. Looking like the board will stick by him so should he make the end of the season and we go down that can only be seen as a failure in my eyes.

      He has had time to bring in his own players and he picks the formations and tactics, which are shocking and frankly desperate at times. If ever I saw hit and hope tactics it was this bloke. How you can consider losing Ollie as the worst thing that could happen to the club is baffling, as you put it a big majority of us must be clowns then. Only the big pay off to rid us off him should be considered bad for the club.

      How low are your expectations for Millwall and how poorly would we need to be doing in league 1 assuming we are there next season before you might reconsider that Ollie is the messiah?

      Though you clearly back him do you not concede that given the general feeling of animosity towards him from the fans his position as manager is now untenable. If you attend games I reckon Saturday at Norwich will go a long way to determing if he has any chance of seeing out the season. I have a horrible feeling some muppet will try and lump him at some point, possibly after Grabban makes it 3-0 😉

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    • March 4, 2015 at 17:00
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      @StanLDN: where have u been , so rebuilding a team
      go get a striker 34 with no goal record
      go get a spanish MF that aint no better than what we have
      play a right back in CM ALL SEASON , WHEN HE BUYS A CM FROM YEOVIL,
      LOAN A STRIKER FROM WATFORD AND SEND HIM BACK AND PAY HIS WAGES
      GET 2 GROUP OF PLAYERS ,FROM CHAIRMAN , AND STILL S***
      PLAY PLAYERS ALL OVER THE PLACE CONSTANT CHOPPING AND CHANGING ,
      PLAY A GOOD YOUTH LIKE FRED ON POWELL , FOR A GAME THAN DROP THEM,
      MAKE A YOUTH PLAYER CAPTAIN JUST TO TAKE HEAT OF YOURSELF

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  • March 4, 2015 at 15:58
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    ok if you think we should give ih time answer me these questions
    why does he keep playing dunne at ch when he is clearly not good enough , as says he is not good enough to play
    the position he has been taught since he was 10 years old .
    why does he have the same player captain when he does not open his mouth on the pitch .
    he praised shittu as my rock and now lets him train with the youth team .
    said earlier in the season that maybe gregory needs to go out on loan .
    now its too late and his confidance is shot he keeps playing him .
    plays youth players for one or two games then drops them and leaves them on the bench.
    i could go on and on .
    are these things a good manager or somebody who had the backing of his players would be answering week in week out.
    none of us what to keep slagging him of but what else can you do when the evidence is so overwhelming

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  • March 4, 2015 at 16:30
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    From Aldos twitter ! "Chairman's view is that a change of manager now would not make survival any more likely and wants Holloway to repeat what he did last year".

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  • March 4, 2015 at 16:33
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    "There's no bad team in the Championship but at the moment we're one of the worst because of the run we're on," Holloway added.

    Your're f****** deluded man for god's sake, we're s*** because you've made us that way

    You've lost the dressing room and can't motivate our players as you drag us towards the abyss of League 1 - just go!

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  • March 4, 2015 at 16:34
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    So holloway is safe as i suspected anyway, this is the question now, are we going to win 2 or more games than rotherham between now and the end of the season ?

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    • March 4, 2015 at 16:44
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      @rowanonthewing7:

      7 points effectively with GD but no we won't anyway so it's irrelevant, and I can't see where the next win's coming if it does at all till the end of the season with this clown in charge.

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      • March 4, 2015 at 16:55
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        @Millwallsteve1972: On current form we'd be looking at seven points max for the rest of the season.

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    • March 4, 2015 at 16:55
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      @rowanonthewing7: easy answer probably not , because half the team cant wait til the end of the season to go back to their parent clubs .

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    • March 4, 2015 at 18:29
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      @rowanonthewing7: Wigan and Rotherham are more likely to get points from their last 11 games than us so it pretty much looks like we are down and out, I can't see IH doing anything special in these last few months.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 16:41
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    For my two penny worth.
    As I saw the goals going in last night I did not get the usual feeling in the pit of my stomach I usually get when we go a goal down. I think that is because I have now actually resigned myself to the fact we are going down this season, so no more worrying until the last one or two game like I have done for the last couple of years and I can watch games with an inner calmness that comes from accepting the inevitable. With this in mind I think the sensible thing to do, if we now accept that premise, is to let Ollie get on with it to the bitter end. Decide then if he stays on, you never know we may see an improvement in performance and luck, we will inevitably, no matter what happens, have a big clear out of players along with those we have in contract who may want to go elsewhere and of course we will know what sort of budget we have. We do have youngsters like of Fred coming back so JB can then decide if a new manager would do a better job knowing exactly where we are. I can see no point in getting rid of Ollie now if you do accept we are going down, if we stay up then great for that glorious moment we know we are safe as it was against Bournemouth last year, but with the financing of the club as it is and three more big budget teams coming down I feel if we do stay up we will only be going through this again next year. Going down means we can regroup start again with a younger cheaper squad, hopefully start winning matches and enjoy going to the Den again. I do also appreciate that going down does not mean that happens but the way the premier league is now structured with the parachute payments the division between ex premier league clubs and those that have never been in the Premier league is only going to get greater so much so that these 'never beens' and indeed any club getting into the Championship from league one will find it more and more difficult to compete without a big money backer.
    It might just be going down does a favour like Swansea, Southampton etc or we could end up like Portsmouth etc.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 16:52
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    right now is the time to set the players free, let them express themselves, let go out and be free and enjoy themselves, then if they cock it up they can all p i ss off on a free

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  • March 4, 2015 at 17:14
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    it seems , a stand off from club and manager , we dont want to pay ,him off , and he wont walk
    we should put him on garden leave pay his wages , put harris and gibbs, the players know them
    i fear if jb carries on with this , some nut is going to do something stupid , with games like brentford away , charlton at home, cardiff, the tension is going to give, he has lost the fans , and he and jb know that, its very unprofessional of the club and dangerous , at least with harris and gibbs they will be backed by us the most important part of millwall , without us JB IS KNACKERED

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  • March 4, 2015 at 17:34
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    Gents on a lighter note I see that the prediction league poits for March are doubling up as long as they don't double the first prize from 2 to 4 season tickets as punishment

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    • March 4, 2015 at 17:47
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      @kell: they've halfed the prize to one season ticket on compassionate grounds.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 17:36
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    One thing is for sure.
    Holloway is, and will still be here to the end of season,
    not for JB's love of him and his running of the team,
    but for a Million pound plus.
    I am afraid Football is out the window on this one
    (always has been in IH's case), financial implications is the order of the day.

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  • March 4, 2015 at 19:03
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    @Mekongriver: stickyour tongue back to the bus window you fraggle

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