Holloway will "deal with" Millwall striker after gesture

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IAN Holloway says he will "deal with" Ricardo Fuller after the striker gestured to Millwall fans during Saturday's defeat at Blackpool.

Fuller was booed after missing a chance and appeared to respond by sticking up two fingers at the away end.

That prompted a further backlash from the travelling supporters and when the Jamaican was substituted, he reacted again.



And Holloway said: "I don't know what he said or what he did but I've spoken to him about it and so have the Millwall players who've been here a long time.

"We've got to stick together so Riccy has got to learn that that's unacceptable in any way, shape or form.

"He feels he was trying so hard and obviously he didn't mean to hit the ball over the bar. He couldn't have tried any harder and he's an aggressive person.



"But that isn't what we want because if my players have done something to turn the fans against them, and brought it on themselves, then I can't stand for that.

"As the manager, I can't really have that and I'll deal with that and deal with him."

Peter Clarke's first-half header from a set piece handed Blackpool victory on a boggy surface at Bloomfield Road.

"The events that led to their goal were pretty bizarre," Holloway added.

"My right back won a great header, didn't touch anyone or do anything wrong but the ref gave a free kick.

"We've got to defend that situation better and convert some of the chances that we created in the second half, otherwise that's what happens.

"Blackpool had nothing to lose but we had everything to lose. We've got a cup game in midweek and we've got to bounce back.

"I'm very hurt at the minute. When you get into certain areas you need to see your players stay composed and that didn't happen."

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175 thoughts on “Holloway will "deal with" Millwall striker after gesture

  • January 10, 2015 at 19:16
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    Same old same old.
    F*** off for god's sake.

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    • January 10, 2015 at 20:19
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      @NICKOLA: The idiot IH says he's hurt at the minute? I like him to feel how I have for the last14 games mug !

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      • January 10, 2015 at 20:24
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        @ronnie: He'll be long gone after you, me and all Millwall supporters live on.

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        • January 11, 2015 at 16:58
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          @NICKOLA: I'm honestly devatstated kenny jacket didn't receive the same financial backing as our last 2 clowns! Without the offer of funds he was unable to move our club forward!! Can't help think if he stayed we would've been so much more better off! IH is killing me, can't listen to his s*** anymore

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:18
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    Oh just shut up and walk and take that dogshit Fuller with you. Honestly cannot remember feeling this down about OUR club. He says we need to strengthen. HOW THE F*** DOES SIGNING A GIANT IMPROVE WHAT WE HAVE YOU FARMER?

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    • January 10, 2015 at 20:08
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      @Alan.F: agree mate, never been so frustrated in 35 years following this great club, I bet Fullers punishment will be a place on the bench, then back in the starting 11 as for some reason Holloway loves him and Dunne

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      • January 11, 2015 at 12:30
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        @dpendet: how we will know if he has dropped fuller as a punishment.... He changes the team every week anyway so being dropped will be the norm. I said it a while ago but IH is a joke

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:19
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    Do yourself and everyone else a favour and Just walk you clueless Clown.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:20
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    Can this nonsense no longer be published?

    This man is insulting us

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:21
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    Using one of your players to deflect attention from yourself.Sack Fuller and then sack yourself you demented conman!

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    • January 10, 2015 at 19:50
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      @norris: Exactly right Holloway is trying to deflect attention from himself and this woeful result. He is doing more harm to the club than Fuller who is not good enough.

      Holloway picked the team and chooses the tactics, thank heavens he did not lead the 8th army. Just do the decent thing and clear off.

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      • January 11, 2015 at 00:30
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        @Peckhamlad: RE HOLLOWAY.I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ANY OTHER CLUB WOULD HAVE SACKED THIS MAN NOW.OUR CHAIRMAN AND BOARD WILL NOT DO THIS FOR WHATEVER REASONS THEY MIGHT HAVE.FOR THEIR LACK OF SERIOUS ACTION WE WILL BE RELEGATED.THIS IS SOLELY BECAUSE THEY DO NOT AND CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY OUR TEAM ARE PERFORMING AS THEY ARE AND CANNOT GET RSULTS.BUT WE ALL KNOW AS FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGED FANS OF OUR CLUB WE LOVE AND WORRY FOR WHY WE HAVE COME TO BE WHERE WE ARE NOW.IT IS HOLLOWAY THAT HAS REDUCED OUR TEAM TO THE LOWEST OF LEVELS AND PERFORMANCES.FIND IT DIFFICULT AND FRUSTRATING HOW HE CHANGES TEAM SELECTIONS REGULARILY LEAVING PLAYERS BENCHED THAT WE KNOW SHOULD BE PLAYING,ALSO THE EVER BORING AND NEGATIVE FORMATIONS HE GETS THE PLAYERS TO PLAY.ONE UP FRONT AT HOME IS UNACCEPTABLE AND I AM SURE THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES DO NOT UNDERSTAND AND GET LOST IN HIS TACTICS.JUST CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW OUR SITUATION HAS GOT THIS FAR.ONLY REASON I CAN THINK IS THAT OUR CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MUST BE WATCHING SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TO WHAT US MILLWALL FAITHFUL HAVE WITNESSED WEEK IN WEEK OUT.WE AS FANS SHOULD NOW SHOW OUR DISCONTENT AT FUTURE GAMES .

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:21
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    Ol Ollie we love you. Guys we have to stick together. Get behind the team and show full support. Let's forgive Fuller and hope we play well in the next game

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    • January 10, 2015 at 20:14
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      @bish2013: your having a laugh fullers crap

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      • January 10, 2015 at 20:54
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        @longshanks: Ricardo Fuller is the best thing at Millwall at the moment without him we would be league one. He is up there with the best.. Matt lawerence, Bobby Bowry, Ricky Newman, Dave Livermore, Uwe Fuchs C'mon millwall let's get behind them

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        • January 10, 2015 at 21:03
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          @bish2013:
          Clearly not a wall fan. Talking utter s*** like that. And for the record , Matt Lawrence and Dave Livermore were more Millwall than most of the current bunch. They knew how to get stuck in and Wernt bad footballers either. The willie donachie era was ALOT worse than this so was the spaceman era. People need to get a grip. YOULL ALL WANT CHELSEA TICKETS IF WE PLAY THEM WONT YOU!

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          • January 11, 2015 at 00:54
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            @82wall: sorry mate but as insignificant as your comment may seem I have to comment. To suggest millwall result ding matter unless they mean a big game against a pretend club insults me. I follow millwall because I was born in the same borough as the ground not because what league they are in. F*** chelski and all the other sell outs, I am south east london and regardless I don't give two f**** about them c****. Championship, league1,2, Holloway, conference.... Millwall always?!

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        • January 10, 2015 at 21:11
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          @bish2013: well said mate you know your wall players

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        • January 10, 2015 at 22:19
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          @bish2013: what? I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic

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    • January 10, 2015 at 20:59
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      @bish2013: love your spirit mate. Where going through a rough patch at the moment every team has there ups and downs and we should be sticking together not ripping in to eachother and making things worse. Sacking holloway aint the way forward.

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      • January 11, 2015 at 11:50
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        @JordieLion: totally agree holloway is a top manager and it will take time for him to get his squad and when he does there will be no stopping us

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        • January 11, 2015 at 13:54
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          @jcmfc1967:exactly we've shown a lack of ambition for years.

          Why have we not broken our transfer record from the 80s?!

          Come on JB pull your finger out and match the reported £500m package that Chelsea are rumoured to be considering for Messi.

          £500m that's all I'm asking for. Ollie will play him at CB and obviously Dunne will not be easy to get out but it's a start.

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    • January 12, 2015 at 06:47
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      @bish2013: you have got to be on a wind up mate don't bother coming on this site if your not millwall

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:21
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    Sticking two fingers up at fans. It proves that the mug is here for the wages. He doesn't care about the club or the fans just like the other journeymen IH has signed. Do one you absolute oxygen thief and IH you egotistical mug, clear off too before you do even more damage.

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    • January 10, 2015 at 19:28
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      @southlondon1885: Don't agree with what he did but he is our top goal scorer without him we would have been well behind Blackpool in the league. Just shows the state we are in, thanks Ollie.

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      • January 10, 2015 at 19:37
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        @Sealion: i can't agree. Swearing at your own fans is totally unacceptable. It shows contempt for the people who ultimately pay his wages. Frustration is boiling over. How can you have a "must win" game and play fuller up front. He spends more time on the deck than on his feet. If he can't take stick from the fans he can do one.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:22
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    Lets not be to harsh on Holloway.He said he would get us out of the championship and he's keeping his word ( UNFORTUNATELY LEAGUE 1 THOUGH) !!!

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:25
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    Nonsense, again!

    Please, make him go away.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:30
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    Clown prince of football.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:32
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    so as ih says if a player dos something to annoy supporters "he cant really have that"
    But week in week out hes desiscions annoy every one ,
    So how about leading by example and F*!K OFF NOW

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:35
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    easy to make fuller the scapegoat - our general play has not been good enough for 20 games - lots of players and have been tried and we have a few more waiting to go now

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    • January 10, 2015 at 19:48
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      @timchimes: QUITE CORRECT! WE DESPARATELY NEED A NEW BAND OF PLAYERS.HURRY UP AND CHANGE IT! NO ONE LIKES US, WE DONT CARE.STORMIN' NORMAN IS DISAPPOINTED BY THIS DISPLAY.

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      • January 11, 2015 at 12:36
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        @bermlion:Yeah, that's exactly what Ollie and the powers above must do, change this lot for the better! Saw your 'FLAG' , Stormin, hanging up the back - row at Blackpool FC ED Stand. ( NOLU, WDC ).

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:37
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    taxi for ih
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-O58lKSAL8OI/TyoDJrPboXI/AAAAAAAABlo/MQqHXshuU94/s1600/clown+car.gif

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:38
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    I'm telling you now. If we don't stay up this year we'll drop through the divisions quicker than a whores drawers. Look at Bristol Rovers.

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    • January 11, 2015 at 01:01
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      @NICKOLA: Totally agree, league one is proper. Sheffield Utd smash prem teams and can't even make the playoffs. Plus yeovil look like they are going down. It is no picnic, and we have a team full of egg cress sandwiches. I'm sick of it, pay off the majority of them and promote the youth team!! Embarrassment

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:44
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    Could get worse at Bradford but I'm still going. Morison and Malone told us to f*** off at Barnsley last year. Keep the faith I still think this blokes going to keep us up, millwall don't beat bottom of the league sides never have done. Forest away will be the turning point! Miiiiiiiiiiii

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    • January 10, 2015 at 19:50
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      @rotherhamwall: youhaving a laugh? Millwall dont beat any side at the moment, top or bottom - they can all do us. I've absolutely had enough of the team and management. Lets hope we dont do a Luton. It aint looking good.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:46
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    over 500 going Bradford see you at the bridge miiiiiii

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:47
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    Fuller is not the story here just as Sid's debut was not the story against Bournemouth. The story should be that we lose 9 games of every 10 and look relegated in January.

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    • January 10, 2015 at 20:17
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      @jamie: 100% mate - what Fuller did happens all the time in football. Yet again he's avoiding the main problem - him! Seeing a man completely burying a club with hardly a complaint from the fans or board - I can't think of too many examples - get him out before it's too late.

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    • January 11, 2015 at 10:00
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      @jamie: That's exactly the point Jamie, spot on. If Fuller plays net Saturday and bangs in the winner fair play to him, we're all big enough to dish it out from the terraces so should be big enough to take it back. Not saying Fuller was right to do what he did but it's only a symptom of the trouble we are in, not the cause.

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      • January 11, 2015 at 10:58
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        @lion.ie: unless someone says otherwise I can only imagine like many players across the land he's been given stick from his own fans. Now they were only showing their frustration and he's only human so has given some back. I seriously doubt that the bloke isn't trying to score, he is after all our top scorer this season!

        The whole incident is trivial in my eyes compared to the far bigger problems this club currently faces.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:47
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    This a great website but the only way to show our distastes with what's going on at Wall is to boycott the next home game action needs to be taken immediately we have 21 games left and need a manager that has enough games left to turn things around and use the transfer window so it's change it Now or be relegated, with this clown and crap players he's brought in Fuller the worst of them all he needs to go and go now
    Millwall belongs to the fans and we need JB see that and act accordingly

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    • January 10, 2015 at 20:15
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      @southstand: There's an old saying that you should never change your horses midstream. Ollie is not even midway through wheeling and dealing. The truth is even if tactically he has been a pony we have to stick with him and the club. I have my season ticket so missing home games is not an option for me anyway. If we want better footballers we need more through the turnstiles. Supporting Millwall isn't just about the good times. How we could do with some of the Wembley fairweather fans right now. My patience with Ollie is now about as thin as his hair but I'm still hoping for a big turnaround in February.

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      • January 10, 2015 at 20:33
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        @Canterbury pilgrim: I think you're right, they have invested so much faith in Ollie and based their planned recruitment on his needs that a change in manager now would be virtually ineffective. Hate to say it but we are fixed on a course come what may and we will have to see if Captain Ollie is sailing us into an iceberg or a safe harbour. I'm beginning to wish I had bought a Maie West for Xmas

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        • January 10, 2015 at 20:56
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          @glyngo:

          yes I will be at Ipswich but it is impossible to see how we can win without Paris and others - the current lot just don't believe they can win - we always seem to get a home result against them somehow - god knows we need one this year

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:49
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    On another note Benik afobe is discussing a pernament move away from arsenal I wonder if that club is millwall?

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    • January 10, 2015 at 19:52
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      @rob hearn: not if he's got half a brain.

      I mean would you seriously leave Arsenal to come here?

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      • January 11, 2015 at 01:07
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        @MFC Lion: be amazed and chuffed if we got him but seems unlikely.. Aldo?

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        • January 11, 2015 at 11:08
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          @davesavagesleftfoot: haha had a quick search and he is in talks with a championship club!

          Bad news it's Wolves! Please KJ do us a favour and go for someone else!

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    • January 12, 2015 at 09:55
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      @rob hearn: Afobe signs for Wolves for £2M.........that sort of money is out of our league. Although I like Afobe, I think £2M is a little bit over the top for a 21 year old playing in Div 1

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:51
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    Aldo or staff post a quick poll on whether it's time for Ollie to pack his bags.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 19:58
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    @MFC Lion: he is out of contract in the summer and is currently on loan at MK DONS, I just think its weird IH at 5:30pm tells sky sports news we need more options and at 6:30pm MK DONS say he is in talks over a prenament move

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  • January 10, 2015 at 20:00
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    Plus after the fuller incident today means he can now also go and we would have replaced him with another striker

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    • January 10, 2015 at 22:55
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      @rob hearn: don't get me wrong Rob it would be great if he was moving to us and I suppose we just about count as a team so you never know.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 20:01
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    What about the game bolloc* chops,don't make it all about fuller,although hecwants sacking for what he did.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 20:01
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    I'm done

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  • January 10, 2015 at 20:03
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    bring back Lomas - better results.

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    • January 10, 2015 at 22:57
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      @col: shouldn't joke about him returning but I think you're right regarding the results.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 20:05
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    Now it's time to vote fellow true millwall fans & hopefully Aldo,will show this to our chairman

    Holloway must go= vote like

    Holloway must stay= vote dislike

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    • January 10, 2015 at 20:09
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      @mfcjon:
      Great minds think alike we must have posted this at the same time, so I'm voting like for the reasons on my post...

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  • January 10, 2015 at 20:06
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    I think it is time for Ollie to go. Until recently I would have stood by him but playing Marquis on Boxing Day and re-signing Hoff are desperate measures from someone fast running out of ideas, and Church on loan, yes that goal scoring machine will keep us up!!! So straw poll on here, if you agree with me (for whatever reason) and want him out press the like key, if you want him to stay press dislike, I know where my money is going.................

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  • January 10, 2015 at 20:10
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    Another month for me, let's see the new signings make an impact if they don't by March change the manager. Something tells me this c**** going to turn it around.

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    • January 10, 2015 at 20:34
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      @rotherhamwall: You must be joking.
      Crap team selections.
      Two injuries every week on the training ground.
      Anyone who thinks that the Hoff or Church are going to keep us up need help.
      Players are not signing simply cos they can see League one pending.
      Gates will drop.
      Chopper or Warnock in NOW.
      Check our last 10 results. Have a bloody good look.
      Still positive?

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      • January 10, 2015 at 20:59
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        @NICKOLA: What is Warnock going to do his crap look what he done at Palace. Harris ain't ready yet. Nickola get a grip in Holloway we trust

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      • January 10, 2015 at 23:04
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        @NICKOLA: Warnock?!

        Have we learnt nothing about hiring ex palace managers?

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        • January 11, 2015 at 01:15
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          @NICKOLA: w@MFC Lion: WARNOCK?! F*** off, the day that p**** comes near my beloved club is the day I start watching rugby. Bloke is the definition of d*******, and has no business poking his sickening nose near Millwall. Most ridiculous post I've read in years, delete yourself!

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          • January 11, 2015 at 09:55
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            @davesavagesleftfoot: totally agree, Warnock is not a forward looking move. Terrible football and polarising players us he'd want to buy in his players. We already have a manager trying to rebuild the squad and he is half way through that so why change now!

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  • January 10, 2015 at 20:13
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    What did Fuller actually do and say...??? nobody has actually told us on here.....!!!! I don't want the s*** dumb ass replys , just what he actually said and did.

    If he stuck his fingers up and said FO to the fans for booing him....then he needs to jog on. Does he forget that the people he is telling to FO are the people that pay his wages. You wouldn't go to work on Monday morning and tell your boss to FO and not be sacked for it. So sorry Fuller you got to go. And before anyone hits the dislike button. YES WE ARE THE BOSS....doesn't matter weather you go to the games week in week out, have only been a couple of times, have bought 3 team shirts or just a mug that's says MILLWALL......... We are all fans and we have all put our hard earned money into the club. So it is OUR club, we are the BOSS.....so maybe time to take action...

    There is actually a water ferry company in Auckland (New Zealand) that is called Fullers.....!!!! It would be ideal for you and you could say you own the company. They are looking for a new cashier in the ticket office as that's about all your good for and maybe IH can be the mascot for the company prancing up and down the boats blowing hot air out of his A.S.S because it seems that's what he is good for.

    I'm just glad I now live on the other side of the world so I don't have watch this s*** week in week out.

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    • January 11, 2015 at 01:23
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      @Kiwimillwall: - was t at today's game but worth pointing out I was was at the Fulham game, fuller assists for a surprise win and fuller goals in vital points/wins at wolves and Bradford. Old player but gets stick, easy, just saying?

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  • January 10, 2015 at 20:20
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    I don't see this article as a deflection at all. In my opinion , this was posted after Ollie was asked about the Fuller incident. Think about it.
    At this point , I don't give a flying f@ck who's the boss. We just need to stay up , that's my main concern.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 20:32
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    I KEEP COMING BACK ON THIS SITE TO SEE IF HE DONE THE DECENT THING YET . GO HOLLOWAY GO. YOU LOST YOUR PLAYERS, YOU LOST THE FANS, YOU LOST THE PLOT .GO GO GO

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    • January 10, 2015 at 20:48
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      @collydriver: Don't worry about that mate. You'll hear the cheer over 5,000 miles away.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 20:53
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    Has he gone yet ?
    As always IH finds something to deflect away from his shortcomings.
    Fuller should go as well.
    And take Forde and Dunne with them.
    IH should of gone after the Middlesborough farce,
    WE ARE DOWN WITH THIS CLOWN IN CHARGE.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 20:57
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    Has just been confirmed that Benik Afobe is in talks with a club for a permanent move on sky sports

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    • January 10, 2015 at 21:02
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      @cmj23: It can't be Millwall; ollie is still in talks with his imaginary friend about how good he is and it's not his fault we are worse than we were when he took over despite him being the second highest paid manager in the championship.

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      • January 10, 2015 at 21:05
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        Probably ain't but would be lovely if it was aye

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    • January 11, 2015 at 08:09
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      @cmj23: Looks like Afobe is going to Wolves.
      It is apparent that prem clubs will not loan players to us and we struggle to sign good young players on a permanent basis.
      It cannot just be IH...........

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  • January 10, 2015 at 21:03
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    Fuller should never pull on that shirt again.

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    • January 10, 2015 at 21:08
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      @82wall: He should never been given the opportunity to wear it in the first place.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 21:05
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    If you think Ian Holloway is to blame for the mess the club is in then you havent got a clue.

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      • January 10, 2015 at 21:24
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        @Adsy77777: who gives him a working budget?who tells him what to do? who sacks him ? is that enough evidence

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          • January 11, 2015 at 21:29
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            @Adsy77777: our board of directors and ceo have caused the demise of our club and ambition starts at the top.they appoint, sack, squander money and miss the opportunity to purchase quality players,

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        • January 10, 2015 at 23:13
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          @millwallbuilder: I also don't understand what point you're trying to make.

          Is this Ollie's username for NAD? Because the building job you're doing at wall is looking more like a demolition.

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          • January 11, 2015 at 21:34
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            @MFC Lion: sorry lion for not fully explaining my comment i meant our short sighted board and yes chairman may i assure you i have a head of grey hair and i am not bald/ginger and lay bricks but not in ollies arm waving style,

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    • January 10, 2015 at 21:20
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      @Big Millwall: whose to blame, don't say the players, he pick the team,

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      • January 11, 2015 at 01:26
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        @longshanks: majority of the player are useless, sorry but fact!

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    • January 10, 2015 at 21:23
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      @Big Millwall: so the club makes the team selection ,
      the club have nothing to do with playing a rightback at centrehalf, with three natural cb in the squad, in which one he bought, playing a holding mid , on the wing, jimmy, buying a constant old pals ,like angel, who is injured all the time , and the other argie, who have forgot his name last season, he was that bad,
      we have a far better squad of players than jacket had, letting robbo go was a major cock up , name a better cb , his had all summer to get this team sorted

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  • January 10, 2015 at 21:26
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    This site is b*****.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 21:27
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    Holloway is going to deal with Fuller, who the hell is going to deal with Holloway? How Gueye did not start that game after impact agaknst Bradford and how Dunne is in the starting eleven is crazy. For a must win game where defeat is not an option the clown starts with just Fuller up front on his own and expects us to outscore the mighty Blackpool. The club need to take some responsibility and at the very least address the fans to acknowledge our concerns instead of keeping us in the dark over exactly what is going on. I said the other day that all we need is confidence but when you can't pick a competitive team it is never going to happen.

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  • January 10, 2015 at 21:31
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    February is the month that will tell us our fate. Look at the teams we play- all those around us near enough. By then the new recruits will be bedded in and a fresher outlook will be evident. If we have a change of fortune with results then we could stay up. I'm actually fed up with the negatives being thrown around. Am I right in saying that we all want the same thing but will have to agree to disagree- Ian Holloway will be our manager into May at Wolves away... I for one hope he finishes the game then with a smile on his face! UP THE LIONS!!

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    • January 10, 2015 at 21:43
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      @Deptford Flyer: I think deep down that like me, everyone likes Ollie. He's a nice bloke. Your favourite Uncle type of man. Problem is that he's deluded. Marquis up front. Dunne at CB. Don't get me started on Shittu. Fuller, Gregory and The Hoff up front All alone. Not playing 442. You could write a book about everything we all seem to agree on. "We" being the poor old Millwall supporters on here.

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      • January 10, 2015 at 22:35
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        @NICKOLA: We've been here before with regards managers and tactics etc. if he could get someone as a foil for Gregory, we may be moving in the right direction. From what I saw at Dartford O'Brien and Gregory would stir up a few defences. Sadly, it seems, sought after young forwards aren't interested in coming to us so we'll have to bring on our own. goal scorers I mean... Not PCH who is now broken... When we get down to it John Berylson has both the cojones and the honest conviction that he is right to stick with the manager- that will be the case either until he's decidedly proved wrong or its May- time and we're down. This division is markedly different to previous generations of 2nd tier football clubs, parachute payments being the great dividing line. JB has ploughed a fortune into the club with some great days out for us all in recent past, but if you look at those around us- two notable clubs with aspirations of Premiership status are going down- I just fervently hope that we can avoid joining them.. And bringing all the kids on for next year! Remember the surprise when Tim, Paul, Stephen Reid, Sads, Chopper etc all gave us a season to remember 15 years ago!

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  • January 10, 2015 at 22:29
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    Since fuller came, I've disliked him, and every game, i disliked him more. He has recently become my most hated player of all time. Seeing this article saying he got booed off, and that he responded the way he did brings a huge smile to my face. Here's to fuller f****** off! As for holloway, blank

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    • January 11, 2015 at 11:16
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      @mfclions: top goal scorer, without him we would be doing even worse than we currently are.

      Direct your hate to someone more deserving, plenty of candidates in this squad.

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      • January 11, 2015 at 17:31
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        @MFC Lion: we always have s**** top scorers; henderson, woolford, now fuller. And 2 of his goals were against a league one side. This t***** doesn't try, he ducks when he 'challenges' for a header, he falls on the floor all of the time, he can't make a useful pass, dribble past anyone, or chase down the ball. If i had the money, I'd buy him myself so we didn't have him

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  • January 10, 2015 at 23:01
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    @NICOLA : I am enjoying your rants about "holloway should go". A while back you were chief ranter on here calling " JACKETT " out, I wrote then " be careful what you wish for, you got your wish when jacket went, we then got LOMAS, and in no time at all you were back on here writing "LOMAS out" , you got your wish ,lomas was gone, now for a while you have been writing " HOLLOWAY out". Before jacket we had a list as long as your arm of managers with poor results and since JACKETT we have gone back to managers with poor results. So my point is, keep changing managers does not seem to be working so maybe we should get behind one of them ,and give them more time to see the job through, after all this bloke inherited a bad situation to start with. And your suggestion that Neil Harris should take over as manager is one i completely disagree with, but should he get the job and fail I await your Harris out rant.

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    • January 10, 2015 at 23:45
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      @bordersarebest0170: I also cautioned against those wanting Kenny out; Lomas was a bizarre selection by the club, given the strength of feeling against him before he even started. I didn't want Holloway personally but there is no doubting the general popularity of his appointment. Like everyone on here, I want Millwall to prosper and it gives me no pleasure to call for the manager to be sacked cos it means we are struggling. There can be no doubting that his team selections, his tactics, his formations and, most importantly, his results are not good enough. He has made a couple of decent signings, but on the whole they have been underwhelming. Admittedly, they were loans, but in KJ's time we brought in Kane, Wood, Afobe and Puncheon, all of whom, to a greater and lesser degree, made big contributions. IH seems either unable to pick a player who will make a difference or is unable to persuade them or their clubs to choose us. How IH could think that playing Dunne and Nelson were the right CB pairing for this game is beyond me. Playing a basic team on a bad pitch it was obvious that they would bombard us aerially. Too often, before, during and after games, I am left scratching my head at what he was thinking. His ego only serves to frustrate me further. I hope he does the decent thing and walks.

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      • January 11, 2015 at 00:36
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        @Adsy77777: listened to Steve Claridge tonight in FL show talking about Gary Rowett using a system that's right for his players. Seems to simple doesn't it. Also not saying he should be manager but if Claridge was prepared to be a coach I would have him back at the Den in a heartbeat.

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        • January 11, 2015 at 01:01
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          @glyngo: Claridge isn't a manager or a coach, he's record says so.

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        • January 11, 2015 at 12:56
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          @glyngo: That's been my point all along Glyngo - surely a good manager finds the way to get the best out of what he's got and builds from there. Only an egotist keeps on saying this is the way to play and the players can't get it. The definition of insanity is to keep making the same mistakes expecting a different outcome.

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      • January 11, 2015 at 00:40
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        @Adsy77777: the rot started the last 20 months or so towards KId reign.

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        • January 11, 2015 at 10:25
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          @nocalves: Kenny Jackett proved what you can do in this division with an average squad, no budget and most importantly very smart use of the Premiership loan market. When he was forced into panic loans when Chris Wood chose a club with Premiership ambition over a club with restricted goals it was the first time he failed us. It wasn't always pretty with KJ and there were plenty of shocking performances, but with KJ you always felt he could turn it around in the next game and there were plenty of good and great days. Holloway had one good season with Blackpool, scraping into the play-offs with what was largely Simon Grayson's squad. We have always gone for upcoming and mostly unproven managers, Lomas was the right type but the wrong man and a blip, Holloway put us on the self-serving managerial merry-go round where media friendly has-beens get jobs based on very little and in my opinion this is where the real rot started.

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          • January 11, 2015 at 11:05
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            @lion.ie: I'm not having a pop at KJ but pointing out we've been in decline for over 3 years now. In my opinion Andy ambler is the biggest culprit as to why were looking at league one.

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          • January 11, 2015 at 12:57
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            @lion.ie: 100% right mate

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      • January 11, 2015 at 01:06
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        @Adsy77777:
        Good post, I agree with all of what you said. When a manager blames the pitch for a loss against a team of no hopers then it surely is the beginning of the end..................

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    • January 11, 2015 at 09:46
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      @bordersarebest0170: Yep I wanted Jackett out. Wasn't alone either. Then we had Lomas. Out of his depth but conned JB into getting the job. I'm all for giving the manager some latitude, and accept that we're going to go through slumps but the last 3 months have been a joke. As I posted earlier, the team selections and tactics take my breath away-unless you're ok with them? There were 5 players that played yesterday that shouldn't even be at the club let alone anything else. As for the intended signings- well, if Church is to be the saviour then god help us all. I want Millwall to be like the Millwall of old. Some bllod and thunder with some players with class. If that means finding teh right manager then so be it.

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      • January 11, 2015 at 10:01
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        @NICKOLA: I agree.The team yesterday as a lot said before the game was shocking.
        When IH said it was a `MUST NOT LOSE` game that sent out alarm bells that he was playing for a draw at BOTTOM team Blackpool.
        Dunne at CB is nothing more than a joke.
        Playing that useless slow lump Fuller as a lone, so called striker is a joke.
        Woolford and Martin are a waste of space.
        IH should of resigned after the Middlesborough game which was a farce.
        Even thinking of getting Church (who cannot get in that pile of s**t Charlton team) borders on desperation and somebody who has lost the plot.
        At the moment ANY other Manager would do - just somebody who organises their team,plays players in correct positions,does not make changes every game and plays TWO strikers.
        Not much to ask for.

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  • January 11, 2015 at 01:22
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    Cricketers do it all the time,maybe it was the bounce of the ball that cost us the game ?

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  • January 11, 2015 at 02:19
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    FORD: what were you doing, letting that mediocre soft header in at your near post, you should of been down turning that aside, and your an international keeper??

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    • January 11, 2015 at 03:33
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      All this negative thinking aint helping. Just think about it a win on Wednesday against Bradford and we get a day out at the bridge probably 1 of our biggest games in years a few good wins in the league and where halfway up the table come on u lions let's stick together positive thinking.

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      • January 11, 2015 at 12:19
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        @JordieLion: I don't think Hollow head and his team of losers could beat the Lionesses at the moment. But if Bradford against all odds manage to lose then the Chelsea match will be a rugby score and if possible we will be a greater laughing stock than we are all ready.

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  • January 11, 2015 at 08:44
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    This is so f****** sad I've not felt like this sense George pechly this man is a joke he say the millwall players who have been here a long time have had a word with him ffs is he the manager or what so dunne had a word I surprised he could talk with IH d*** in is mouth. And bob the millwall builder your off your f****** head

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    • January 11, 2015 at 21:43
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      @lionheart: friday night usually m8

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  • January 11, 2015 at 08:55
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    Sorry millwall builder I meant big millwall your off your head of course is to blame if he picks the team we can all see dunne is s***

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  • January 11, 2015 at 09:02
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    Going to Bradford with my club, not my team. How sad can one feel about this on going comedy act?

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  • January 11, 2015 at 09:12
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    Benik afobe is In talks with wolves another millwall target we miss out on I just can't c us getting anywhere and I hope fuller gets sacked for what he done

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    • January 11, 2015 at 10:00
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      @colmfc: so he allegedly stuck two fingers up, I couldn't really care and at least it shows he is bothered by what's going on. I personally am more upset by the lack of goals from our forwards. And by all accounts none of them could hit the bloody target yesterday. I have no problems with players telling fans what they think if they are being abused themselves.

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    • January 11, 2015 at 11:32
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      @colmfc: if your going to shout abuse at a player be ready to get some back!

      I really don't get the mind set of some fans that think you can shout whatever you like at someone call them a useless c***, you're s***, etc and expect them to just act as if nothing has been said.

      Go out and try that at work or in the street and see what response you get!

      You think because you buy a ticket to a match that gives you the right to s*** someone off without them being allowed to respond? Get real.

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      • January 11, 2015 at 12:06
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        @MFC Lion: Yeh I remember the Cantona incident with the Palace d***, I bet he thought twice about abusing players after that, but maybe as a neanderthal he didn't.

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      • January 11, 2015 at 13:33
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        @MFC Lion: I work in a cab office, the amount of abuse I get is a joke, and I'm nowhere near Fullers wages, if I reacted the way he did I'd be out of job sharpish, so he's got to deal with it.

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        • January 11, 2015 at 14:31
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          @nocalves: I get your point and sympathise regarding the abuse. I occasionally but rarely have to deal with that at work.

          No doubt your tempted to give them some abuse though so you can see perhaps why Fuller would react?

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          • January 11, 2015 at 14:57
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            @MFC Lion: I'm often tempted, and I'm sure if some people could read my mind I'd be rolling around the waiting room in no time, but bigger picture I'm employed to do a job and the abuse, unfortunately, goes with the territory, as the saying goes, if you can't stand the heat.......

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  • January 11, 2015 at 10:00
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    Think it's time for JB to "deal with" ambler and Ollie

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  • January 11, 2015 at 10:34
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    I've defended Dunne a lot on here, not because I rate him, but because I think he has been made a scapegoat for Holloway's failings.
    Out of interest, from those that actually saw the game, how did he play yesterday?
    He wasn't at fault for the goal, as many immediately assumed, and interestingly was well rated on whoscored.com, an objective measure of player performance in relation to the match in question.

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    • January 11, 2015 at 11:03
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      @lion.ie: dunne don't deserve to wear the millwall shirt

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      • January 11, 2015 at 11:13
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        @lionheart: Thanks for the intelligent insight.

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  • January 11, 2015 at 10:51
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    @lion.ie: dunne actually played decent , the whole defence played and defended well. But their centre half wins a header and scores, ours go up but theirs seem to head them out,we don't . Didn't rate ford for the goal,didn't rate Blackpool ,yet they have managed to hold out keep a clean sheet and beat us even though we had most of the second half play and decent chances.

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  • January 11, 2015 at 11:08
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    @bordersarebest0170: Thanks Borders, interesting how somebody can dislike a question! Think it was Harding beaten for the header and Forde was so slow to react. Forde needs competition and possibly a break but with Bywater and King in reserve he has to keep playing him. If you're into stats, I use them for betting, whoscored.com is excellent. Another stat for yers, 240 long balls played yesterday in our game, 121 from us. No other game in the Championship comes close to 200. So much for Holloway's promises of the passing game or as he called it 'his style of football'.

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    • January 11, 2015 at 11:55
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      @lion.ie: borders is right dunne had a decent game..& the decision not to play shittu was a right one.cos his last 2 games he looked out on his feet(if he gets through 2 games its a miracle)..but to leave out the hof & greggs was wrong..i remember last year when we went to blackpool .after olly said we need a big man so he went out & got hof..as for fuller if some fans think it shows he cares.they obviuosly dont go mfc much..put it this way hes lucky he was able to get of the pitch.f****** s***

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  • January 11, 2015 at 11:30
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    The facts speak for themselves, so far this season Millwall have only won five games, drawn eight and lost twelve. They have won just one of the last eleven games and last won at home on 25th October 2014.

    A woeful record and one that Holloway has to take responsibility for. If he was running a supermarket he would have been sacked months ago. Anyone who thinks he can turn the club around is living in cloud cuckoo land He has had plenty of time and failed. There is only one option left imo that is for him to be removed from position of manager and replaced with someone who will command the respect of the team, fresh ideas and not afraid to make all the changes necessary. Other than that Millwall will face the drop. The Chairman and board have to act NOW before it's too late.

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  • January 11, 2015 at 11:31
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    @nocalves I could see you weren't having a pop at KJ but people can easily go on to Wikipedia and look up the squads that he kept in this division, it's an eye-opener. We have a Chairman who invests personally in our club but wants it run as a business so we are a 10k-12k home supported club surviving in what is fast becoming Premiership Two at the top level, a very difficult ask. What annoys me the most is that Holloway came in spouting how well he identified with the club and its supporters but so far has not shown a shred of evidence to support this. He has also had everything he has asked for given to him within the budget constraints, trips to Portugal, re-laying of the training pitches etc. etc. and has nowhere left to hide and has run out of excuses. All I'll give him personally is that from his signings Gregory looks to have some promise (given his goals last season that's not a shock) and Williams looks a good signing. The rest, (Edwards is 35), are nothing to get excited about and letting Fred go on loan to be replaced by an older but similar player doesn't make sense when our priorities are obviously elsewhere. Even yesterday he started seven Jackett and one Lomas players with Fuller and two loan signings. Hardly put his own stamp on things after a year in charge.

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  • January 11, 2015 at 11:39
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    I can't believe you lot want to stay in the championship...it's not any fun getting slaughtered every week. We don't deserve to stay up, we should have gone down when Jackett was here. Better off getting relegated, sacking off the old and the wage thieves and bringing the youth up. We will bounce back, always do.

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    • January 11, 2015 at 12:44
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      @sketchybean: How about staying up and having a crack at the Championship 'bringing the youth up'? Surely that's a better option for the club? What's the worst that can happen? We get relegated next year with a young team blooded in the Championship and eager to bounce back or we find out that our youth aren't good enough and then take the best of them and rebuild in League One?

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    • January 11, 2015 at 14:49
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      @sketchybean: your honestly think we would be any better in league 1?

      Did you go the season after we got relegated last time?

      We were terrible and nearly ended up in league 2!

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      • January 11, 2015 at 15:03
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        @MFC Lion: ummmm, Yea I do. Do you honestly look at a fixture and honestly believe (with your head) that we will get a win. We need to admit it, we just ain't good enough

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        • January 11, 2015 at 16:19
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          @sketchybean: well like I said we were just as bad, probably worse given the opposition, when we got relegated.

          No I don't expect wins at the moment.

          How can relegation to a worse league with teams no one will want to go and watch be better for Millwall?

          We will have even lower attendances and the 'better' players will leave.

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  • January 11, 2015 at 12:05
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    My first post. Supported the Wall for over 40 years, season ticket holder for too many years to remember and missed only a handful of away matches for ages. Went yesterday was disappointed with the result but was gutted with our supporters turning on Fuller. Love him or hate him I feel he's got a thankless job upfront on his own and despite his shortcomings works his socks off. I've always believed its us against the world and I know difficult to be optimistic at the moment we need to pull together and if we need to vent do it at the end of the game and perhaps direct our anger at the man who pulls the strings

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  • January 11, 2015 at 12:09
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    Kick fuller out of the club.& replace him with O'brien younger faster taller and cares about the club..unlike.that overpaid piece of crap

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  • January 11, 2015 at 12:18
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    Supported the Wall for over 40 years. Season ticket holder for too many years to remember. Travel to most away matches. Went yesterday and was disappointed with the result but was gutted at our supporters turning on Fuller. I've always thought it was us against the world. Do they really think it helps the team? I know it's hard to be optimistic at the moment but we need to get behind the team and if things aren't happening wait till the end of the match to vent

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    • January 11, 2015 at 12:31
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      @Sutton Lion:

      there is a small clique of our fans that are utter morons and before you say we have always been vocal and had people who speak their minds, this is different - when the crowd gave abuse it was often humorous and fitting for the context , like Jimmy Saville, for example, I am okay with that to a point because it relates to the hypocrisy of using celebrity to promote yourself and your club - BUT the abuse that comes from some is completely mindless , tiresome and embarrassing and harms our club - we alone as fans can police it , you don't want stewards doing that job

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      • January 11, 2015 at 13:30
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        @timchimes: theres also a large number who wont spend there money and support millwall .as for policing our own ..this would cause another wembley

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  • January 11, 2015 at 12:26
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    To me 'Fullergate' and Holloway are just symptoms of the sickness known as Ambleritis.

    Our chairman is overseas and is therefore unable to exercise much control so it's left to the manifestly incompetent Ambler.

    As for Fuller, let be kind and put it down to frustration of both him and the fans who spend their hard earned. All he need to do is issue an apology and make a healthy donation to the Everyman appeal, if he does not then sack him for breach of contract.

    Holloway stated before he took our money that 'he was tired of football', Ian for once you were spot on and we have suffered because of it!

    To me he looks like a man who is worn out.

    We also have what seems to be a complete waste of space and money in Bircham.

    Little point is asking for JB to fly over and clear out, it's unfair on him as he is a good man, what's needed is for all the others to look at themselves and either commit 100% or admit the jobs beyond them and say to JB they can't cut it.

    I can then be happy playing the kids, cheering them to the echo and accepting whatever comes.

    Ambler must go.

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    • January 11, 2015 at 12:31
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      Holloway out Harris in,his proper Millwall and he has the youngsters playing well.@wongo:

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  • January 11, 2015 at 12:28
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    Holloway out harris in,his proper millwall and he has the youngsters playing well.

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  • January 11, 2015 at 12:36
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    Yeah, good post LION.IE, some good points well made, @ SKETCHYBEAN: of course we want to stay in this division,there is no mystery in that, true there is no fun being beaten most weeks and that's not what we are saying, we want to be a decent side in this division. You know it would not take so much for us to turn things around because this team looked pretty good earlier on in the season,and as many people have said on here,the problem started when chris wood left. With him we were in the play off positions, when he left we went down hill. Now as LION.IE points out 7 of jackett's lot were playing yesterday, we need to find that effective striker that does what wood did,cos that puts the opposition on the Backfoot,and helps us play more confidence. If we could find that elusive goal scorer that gets you a goal when your not doing well in a game the rest will be ok. WOOD did it MORRISON (the first time around) did it, and this squad would be good enough if we had someone doing what they did. Come on HOLLOWAY find him.

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    • January 11, 2015 at 14:58
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      @bordersarebest0170: true, when wood and kane were here we were winning games that we should have lost, now it's the opposite primarily due to the fact that we can't score!

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  • January 11, 2015 at 12:53
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    Has he still not gone yet?

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  • January 11, 2015 at 12:54
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    Aldo, how about an in-depth interview asking Holloway for straight answers on all of the pertinent questions being raised by supporters on here? Top ten questions, straight answers, no Willy Wonka nonsense.

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    • January 11, 2015 at 14:14
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      @lion.ie: or crap about getting the right ingredients for a cake!

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  • January 11, 2015 at 13:08
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    THE CLUB HAVE NO MONEY!!!!

    Look at the bigger picture....

    The sponsorship is a joke, Euro no boats.
    We cant afford a score board.
    The land around the ground is being sold.

    So with a Millwall budget do you expect us to play like Real Madrid? Or even Derby for that matter, we cant compete in this league, even the smaller clubs like Brenford and Bournemouth have financial backers, we have small crowds and big policing bills, what do you want... Now days we a punching above our weight.

    No Holloway isn't perfect but say we get some one else in, it wont improve, its taken years for us to be this bad, it will take years to put it right.

    Please dont dislike it, you will hurt my feelings.

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  • January 11, 2015 at 13:43
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    About this time last year I speculated that it would be better if a manager came in who was open, honest and conceded to relegation and fielded youth in preparation for getting back out of the 3rd tier and develop a team like in the early 2000s. But after IH pulled something of a miracle off last season, I felt I was proved wrong in this opinion.

    Now I have gone full circle again and wonder if this is what we should be thinking again for the rest of this season. Don't get me wrong, relegation would be miserable, but I don't see a good way to stop the rot realistically coming our way in the form of strikers we all want. I don't see how scraping it again this season is going to lead to a better season next season either. Nor do I see what any other manager can do in this tier without money. Is the only way up by going down? Horrible thought, but.......?

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    • January 11, 2015 at 19:23
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      @SE14: aghhhh relegation is not the answer.

      The idea of 'rebuilding' in league 1 then winning promotion back. Why?

      It will be the same pattern: one good season back, lose best players, struggle for a few seasons. Fans calling for the need to rebuild and relegation back to league 1. Repeat indefinitely.

      Without substantial financial backing or finding a cheap but great goal scorer to fluke us to the playoffs survival in the championship is the best we can hope for.

      Perceived success in league 1 should be seen for what it is. Yes you win games and get high in the table. You win promotion! Perhaps another day at Wembley.

      End result your backing in the same poxy league you started in!

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      • January 11, 2015 at 21:31
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        @MFC Lion: Like you said, "without substantial financial backing or finding a cheap but great goal scorer to fluke us to the playoffs survival in the championship is the best we can hope for". But this is not going to happen season after season. We're going to go down eventually. At a big loss too. And without fielding enough young players. I don't see any manager with the guts to field home grown players in this tier accepting we might go down for it (but build something new in the long run). In the 2nd tier on our budget we cannot a) build anything new; b) build anything long term. We don't have the means.

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        • January 12, 2015 at 01:26
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          @SE14: and like you say when we do go down it will be at a big loss.

          So why do some think we would be better off getting relegated? Explain someone, miss the away day to Gillingham? Or perhaps it's orient?

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  • January 11, 2015 at 14:02
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    Has everyone forgot that Holloway signed Upson and Webster who he obviously doesn't fancy and renewed contracts for Marquis who isn't good enough and Easter, who we had to pay to cancel his contract that he should never have been given...
    P*** poor management all around

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  • January 11, 2015 at 14:03
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    @ BIG MILLWALL: I could not agree more with your post. Keep posting on here "Manager out" means if we now pay this one off and get rid where is the guarantee we will be any better off, cos whoever comes in faces the same LOW BUDGET problems the previous ones had. NO, this bloke has to stay and get things a lot better, we all learn from our mistakes and is learning all the time from his, we cannot afford to just keep paying managers off, he has to stay and turn things around.

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    • January 11, 2015 at 14:10
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      @bordersarebest0170: but is he learning from his mistakes?

      I've said previously if he played players in the correct positions and in a 442 and we still failed to get results I would think it was the players that were to blame.

      However, as shown by yesterday's line up, he continues to persist with one up front and Dunne as a CB.

      I'm under no illusion that we have a good team but surely someone could get more out of them than Ollie has managed.

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  • January 11, 2015 at 14:21
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    Has everyone forgot that Holloway signed Upson and Webster who he obviously doesn't fancy and renewed contracts for Marquis who isn't good enough and Easter, who we had to pay to cancel his contract that he should never have been given...
    poor management all around

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  • January 11, 2015 at 17:11
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    Ian Holloway this is your best team that you MUST field every game barring injury or suspension:
    Forde
    Wilkinson
    Nelson
    Beevers
    Harding
    Williams
    Upson
    Martin
    Woodford (not seen Hall Cowan yet)
    Gregory
    The Hoff

    That's is, keep it simple as these are the best hope you have of getting anywhere near winning.

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    • January 12, 2015 at 12:17
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      @glyngo: Glyngo, I wouldn't let Forde near a pair of gloves at the moment. He is clearly having a melt down and we need another keeeper in ASAP. Even Bywater would be better at the moment

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  • January 11, 2015 at 18:09
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    People keep calling Holloway a clown but at least a clown is supposed to be f****** funny!!!

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  • January 11, 2015 at 18:09
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    @ MFC LION SAYS : well I'm wondering if he is starting to learn from his mistakes. LION.E is a stats man and informs us that millwall played 130 odd long balls yesterday, which is not the tipy tapy football he has been trying to get us to play, also he now seems to be concentrating his efforts on a big un up top : matt smith, tom pope, Hanson, HOFF etc,etc so maybe if he gets that bit right there's a chance he will play someone up there with him to play off. You see I don't think holloway is on any kind of ego trip as some have suggested , there are players like UPSON,Briggs , Webster and to some extent GREGORY who he brought in and yet is big enough to leave out or give little game time to cos he obviously don't feel they are doing it, also he brought JIMMY back when was a forgotten man( by him,not us) so yeah I would like to think he is learning and given time will get it right hopefully .

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    • January 11, 2015 at 19:45
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      @bordersarebest0170: problem is he's taking a f****** long time to learn. Time we are rapidly running out off.

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  • January 11, 2015 at 18:33
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    For the Bradford game I'd do two things.
    One-I'd let Chopper take the U 21's to Bradford and play them in place of the first team. Certainly couldn't be any worse and probably be a lot better.
    Two- Whilst some players who care about Millwall are playing at Bradford, Holloway can take the entire first team squad on the training pitch and get them to practice-NOT conceding from set pieces, PUTTING THE BALL BETWEEN THOSE TWO WHITE POSTS, Forde to PRACTICE KEEPING GOAL and finally PLAYING 442.

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  • January 12, 2015 at 12:14
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    @mfclions: Fuller isn't the only problem. Forde is terrible at the moment and IH needs to get a keeper in pronto as Jacket did when he brought Taylor in to replace Forde a couple of seasons back. Dunne should be fenced off with a 'danger' sign on him. Fact is the team is low on confidence. At least we are getting some decent new players in. Berylson is putting his money in, so please don't criticise hi. He doesn't 'run' the club and we would have gone under by now without his £16m

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