Brentford praised by Millwall manager after Den victory

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IAN Holloway heaped praise on Brentford after their 3-2 win at The Den.

The Lions boss predicted that the Bees would be his side's toughest test of the season so and his pre-game prophecy proved accurate as they claimed a deserved victory.

It took a Danny Shittu own goal to settle matters but the Bees were good value for the three points after they bossed proceedings for long spells.



Speaking afterwards, Holloway admitted that Mark Warburton's side, who were inspired by two-goal striker Andre Gray, were worthy winners.

"Fair play to Brentford," he said. "I knew how good they were by watching them. Mark is three or four years ahead of me in what he wants to do.

"I'm giving all the credit to Mark because he must have been doing a job above their last manager and setting things up."



Warburton has been at Brentford since 2011 and worked as a first team coach and then sporting director before taking the first-team reins in December 2013.

"Their players knew exactly how, who and when to close," Holloway said. "They lost their best player in Jonathan Douglas but they came here and picked our pockets.

"Brentford know they've been in a game but everybody should start looking at the fantastic job they're doing.

"I'm a little bit jealous because their front six knew how to press and they did that without Douglas, who's their best organiser.

"I think they are the only team that have deserved to beat us. We could've got a draw but they are ahead of us, so well done to them.

"I know what Mark knows and it's very good. He's put that in place from top to bottom because the knowledge of their players was excellent.

"Watford have got more expensive players but Brentford's structure and way of doing things is as good as anybody's at the minute.

"Brentford have pace and a young, fresh, hungry squad – big time.

"I've got to eventually change the balance of that here."

Millwall looked like getting something from the game after they recovered from 2-0 down to equalise, with Lee Gregory and Alan Dunne scoring in quick succession.

But Shittu then turned Gray's cross into his own net to restore the Bees' lead.

Holloway was unhappy with the organisation of his players – and revealed his regret at dropping Scott McDonald from the starting XI.

"Without Scott we didn't know how to press or how to close," he said.

"We really missed McDonald. He's been our best player this season but I wanted to give him a rest because we scored two without him the other day.

"He'd played every minute of every game but boy oh boy did I rue the decision to leave him out. He sets the tone of our closing and pressing."

Assessing the match overall, Holloway added: "We should've stuck to our game plan and we didn't have it right from the first couple of minutes.

"I didn't want their left centre half getting the ball, we wanted to channel it to their left back and we worked on it, but our two wide men started on the wrong side.

"I don't understand why my team didn't organise that.

"The mistake for the first goal was not Shaun Williams' pass, the mistake was not making a better angle for a pass because we knew they'd press.

"For the second, we rolled it into an area where they are very good at pressing and Magaye Gueye gives it away.

"We looked stronger at set plays but we should never have let the third goal in. A gap between Shittu and Mark Beevers let them in. I was gutted with that.

"When we went from back to front and put them under pressure, we looked really good.

"I've got a load of work to do. I might have to look at changing shape and playing a different way to give our boys some confidence."

Holloway also addressed the fact that he made four changes to his line up.

"I've got a massive problem because not all of my boys are as fit as they need to be, in my opinion," he explained.

"Mathias Ranegie isn't fit after a hamstring tear and our fans are slaughtering him but I don't see him not trying – I see him as not fit enough yet.

"If I'd tried the same team over and over again I'd have had four or five injuries by the end of today, I can tell you that now.

"So do me a favour, I've been a manager for 18 years. I'm not deliberately chopping and changing – I don't want to do that."

Alex Aldridge

(@accordingtoaldo)

79 thoughts on “Brentford praised by Millwall manager after Den victory

  • November 8, 2014 at 19:09
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    Congratulations IH. Any other predictions you want to share with us this season? I can predict if we carry on like this we'll be relegated. Loud & clear??

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    • November 9, 2014 at 09:39
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      @NO1LIKESUS: NOBODY HAS MENTIONED IT LATELY ! SO I WILL WRITE IT - ' IN OLLIE WE TRUST ' ( LOL ) NO ONE LIKES US , WE DONT CARE . THE STORM .......LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT SEASON!

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    • November 9, 2014 at 10:17
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      @NO1LIKESUS: What is neeeded is players who can defend as week in week out, every time there is a corner or a free kick within 25 yards of the goal we never look solid and unable to deal with it.
      Ollie needs to get a settled side, so that they all know what they have to do, as others have said if we keep on like this Div 1 looks a realality, Brentford looked so confortable yesterday, but we did have enough chances to win it, but for the 2 slip ups, but again we lost at home and as usual we are having to come from behind.

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    • November 9, 2014 at 16:28
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      Forde looked ok but need someone to push for a place thats 8 in 3 games his let in
      Dunne scored so can't knock him plus he had a bit of fire in his gut
      Shittu needs a diet or a bigger shirt
      Briggs shocker, never got forward or back s*** it from tackles v v poor
      Chaplow poor passing and needs to learn what forward means
      Fuller a tryer but getting found out ... Last 30 mins sub all day long
      Martin consistant every week
      Williams see above.. Passing spot on
      Greggers needs to be up front not on the wing
      Rengie missed two sitters, never looked bothered send him back and you wouldn't know he'd gone
      Maggie, shocker never saw a run from him don't look good
      McDonald, abdou, woolford, Webster, upson, Malone, Fred, nelson, Powell and poss o Brian what you got to do to get a game?????

      Ih take note please

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:12
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    Ollie, im a big fan but don't talk crap! Youve made lots of changes to the formation without needing too, so just hold your hands up and admit it when you cock things up

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:16
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    Same story, different week. Talk talk talk!!! We want win win win.

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:16
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    sorry ollie , b******* , if u made a mistake in dropping mac , u why wait till a hour to change , he is fit to play, as for gray i remember people on here saying have a look a year ago , wheres the scouts we played luton two seasons ago , we all know he is sharp, and as these YOUNG FRESH PLAYERS BRENTFORD HAVE , why are we signing 35 year olds , and journey men , ie spanish bloke, so as for brentford being years in front , you have had a long summer to get your targets , it dont was with me , TO MANY CHANGES RUBBISH

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    • November 8, 2014 at 20:40
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      @munson68: I lost count how many times I posted last season to try and sign gray, you f@@ked up again ollie.

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      • November 9, 2014 at 00:22
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        Though gray scored twice he came across as a whiny little c*** so in that respect I'm not that fussed we didn't get him.

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        • November 9, 2014 at 12:30
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          @MFC Lion: If we had a regular goal scorer he could whine as much as he liked for all I care. I want a goal scorer not a candidate for a Mr Popular contest.

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:21
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    Hate to think the stick Briggs got then, he was a useless as a chocolate fire Guard!!,excuses,excuses.

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    • November 8, 2014 at 19:29
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      @The Roar: fuller was awful and we have no pace in the team , this is all down to holloway , just go please before we drop out of this league . One win in twelve , even lomas didn't have a run like that .

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      • November 8, 2014 at 19:54
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        @southstandview: He managed to take us on a run of one win in thirteen last year, so maybe he's not doing so badly.

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        • November 8, 2014 at 20:23
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          @Micky Lions: so do you still think this clown is the man for us ? Do you see any improvement from last season ?

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          • November 8, 2014 at 23:36
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            @southstandview: no clown. This is the best manager we could ever have hoped for in the circumstances. We are a far better team and we will survive and keep building - It just takes time. One thing we have is fight. Never had that under lomas and not that many comebacks under Kenny towards the end either. Long live king Olli ⚽️

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          • November 8, 2014 at 23:48
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            @southstandview: king Ollie ? Oh dear some people are so gullible .

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          • November 9, 2014 at 18:42
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            @southstandview: I was one of those who expressed doubts when he was appointed and the results for much of last season supported that. But the late run kept us up and it started to look like he might actually be the man for the job. But seven months on and its back to the same old crap and I honestly can't see us progressing under Ollie.

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:28
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    As with all other comments - stop talking c**p and pick the right team - how many times this season have you apologised about mistakes you have made - either selection or substitution - that is your b****y job.
    You plainly don't know your best team or its best formation - which again is pretty fundamantal to what your job is. We are where we are because we have too many mediocre players - too many midfield players of the same type - absolutely no forward threat at all with no pace. The left back is absolute rubbish - that is why Fulham off loaded him - and Gregory is out of his depth.
    You praise McDonald for being our best player this year - and then drop him. Dunne gets booked in the first 5 minutes - that set the tone.
    Get your act together - or you will take us down - and then probably then walk away. We desperately need a striker with pace.
    I am losing the will to watch and I am fed up with your feeble excuses - its largely your fault!

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:33
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    I'd say he's lost the plot but he hasnt got a plot to lose, 31 players used this season already

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:34
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    How can Brentford be way ahead of us for f*** sake?? They were a league 1 side last season. This is our fifth season in The Championship and we have made little progress. At best we are a bottom to middle side in this league and no better.

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:35
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    Well we've got a nice break until the Charlton game now... hopefully this will allow us to play our strongest 11 and stick to it for a while... I still have the faith that it'll come good soon, but that was disappointing today and people are gona pick holes in this interview big time..
    But at least Ollies observations mirror ours in where it went wrong today.. as is always the case, we never know the FULL story of what goes on in the dressing room and what influences his team selection. But nevertheless, we are better than what we produced today and Brentford should think themselves lucky they caught us on a bad day. Clean slate for the next game - no excuses after the break.
    p.s. we might even see that Martinez fella!!!

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:37
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    Stop biggin up other teams all the time and start to pick our best 11 stick with them instead of change every game you are getting right on my nerves now ps load of us wanted Gray

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:43
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    Just look at his record, he done exactly the same at palace & blackpool, weve got no ambition we get hasbeens on loan, 90% of this team are not championship material, don`t worry i expect we`ll get some more over the age wage thiefs in on loan soon, were going down guys, i feel sorry for jb our chairman, he doesn`t choose the players holloway buys or gets in on loan, he just takes his word or the scouts word & foots the bill, brentford get smaller gates than us but they have somehow managed to get the right players & footballing style going, unless the whole scouting network & management system are not seriously overhauled were going into league 1 with very little chance of coming back!

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    • November 9, 2014 at 14:15
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      @mfcjon: yeah the record was promotion out of nothing, if your gonna have a pop at least get the first bit right. We can stay up, we will get better. We shouldn't be like the rest by demanding a new manner every 12 months of we ain't winning the league, patience is what's needed.

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:43
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    All I can say is 'thank f:;k' that our cherished military service personnel didn't fight like our players performed. Dire rubbish.Brentford took the pi:s and I thought our general performance was way beneath the standard required to stay in this division. Shocking and spineless performance to a man.Ollie needs to look long and hard at this squad of overrated wage snatchers.Can anyone offer me any positives for todays' debacle?
    5 things we learned today
    1 we need a keeper
    2 we need a back four
    3 we need a midfield
    4 we need a striker
    5 we need another striker

    rant over.

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    • November 8, 2014 at 19:57
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      @wallchef: our problem isnt our players. People s*** fuller off but when he gets the right supply he can score, same as gregory. Woolford us a good player and so is martin. We have a decent midfield and one of the strongest back four in a long time. The problem is ollie tinkers with the formation when he doesnt need too, so it comes as no surprise when players are disjointed and look crap. Ollie may start to realise soon he doesnt need to constantly change the formation and when he does, the players will gain confidence. This season is a write off but we won't go down. Have faith bro,we are millwall and we never do things the easy way Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

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      • November 8, 2014 at 20:21
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        @Geoff the lion: total nonsense , fuller has scored the grand total of 11 goals in the previous 2 seasons at this level , he was diabolical today and should be dropped to the development squad till his contract is up .

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    • November 8, 2014 at 20:38
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      @wallchef:
      stop beating around the bush.....what is it exactly you are trying to say

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:51
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    Chaplow was s***, how he got a start in front of Upson I don't know. Maggie was ineffective, should have started with McDonald and Woolford with Webster at the back. Shituu looked well off the pace. Passing was awful as was ball retention. That said, the two goals we scored in a minute that came from nowhere followed by Gregory hitting the post could have stolen the points. It was almost surreal pulling back another two goal deficit in such a manner only to lose to a poor defending and unfortunate OG.

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  • November 8, 2014 at 19:57
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    His last six sentences are the ramblings of a manager losing his way.
    The comedy party is over Ollie, start earning your corn before
    a real lack of confidence settles in with the players.
    One win in twelve is not a work in progress but relegation in the making.

    I kinda like Holloway, but he seriously needs to get a grip, and soon.

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  • November 8, 2014 at 20:03
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    We haven't got the depth of squad - MONEY IS TIGHT and we're stuck with several players that shouldn't even be on the bench til next season... not as easy as just saying 'get a striker in'... FFP is f**king us up... We as fans need to take this into consideration. Not the be all and end all, but I think a lot of what Ollie has said in this interview is in that context.. in comparison to Brentford, who, in a way have had a clean slate to build on. When I first read some his comments I was tutting to myself - but on reflection - call me loopy - but he is talking SOME sense.. in between talk of baking cakes - having enough raisens in the imaginary cakes etc.. to use an Ollie style analogy - it seems we're trying to cook a gourmet meal on a camp fire.....

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    • November 9, 2014 at 10:36
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      @Luke ColdBlow10: well perhaps we need you to translate all of his interviews if you get that from the above comment. Lol

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  • November 8, 2014 at 20:03
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    Bored, bored, bored. Into the third season of s**** now. No ambition, no drive, no imagination and no fcuking hope. I've written this before and will write it again, Millwall are a small club, we do not have the resources for squad rotation. Pick your best team and stick with it FFS!

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  • November 8, 2014 at 20:05
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    FFS sort out the constant ads on this website, more annoying than yet another stray chaplow pass or Briggs misstimed pass!!

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  • November 8, 2014 at 20:06
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    Tackle, Briggs tackle you c***

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  • November 8, 2014 at 20:07
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    My apologies olly,after journying across south london in the p****** rain and handing over my hard earned cash i forgot to applaud ranegie to the rafters as he missed two sitters!I think i might have mistakenly thought he was good when you told us he was the dogs b******* when you signed him!

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    • November 8, 2014 at 20:47
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      @norris: norris he's a donkey I've seen him a few times now and he's s***.

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    • November 8, 2014 at 20:54
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      Over the years when have known a millwall manager keep praising the other team for beating us? F@@k if I have, still think he's joker and a clown, just go away you muppet.

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  • November 8, 2014 at 20:15
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    DONT PANIC! DONT DONT PANIC ! WERE DOOMED! Of course not , long way to go boys.
    Keep the faith! COYL!

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  • November 8, 2014 at 20:19
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    OK, who scored our first goal,Gregory or Shituu? I've read different reports which list different scorers, I couldn't even tell from Blk9 other than it was bundled in.

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  • November 8, 2014 at 20:22
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    cant see three teams worse than us at the moment.....is it too early to fear the worst

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  • November 8, 2014 at 20:24
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    How annoying that IH deems it appropriate to praise the opposition and basically say that they did exactly what he expected them to do. If that's what you knew why not do something about it? And yes dropping your best player for a rest prior to a two week break for internationals. Sorry mate but you're a mug. Apparently fuller played today too? What was his contribution? I cant remember him winning anything. Hes an impact sub. Don't go on about Brentford being a young exciting on a tight budget. We could be the same if you stopped bringing in journey men who are passed their best and started using some of our very talented young stars. This bloke is proper beginning to do my nut!

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  • November 8, 2014 at 20:35
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    I think you , me and everyone reading this knew of Andre Gray's pace before the game. So , what do we do ? Put Shittu on him that's what !!
    That for me is a really poor decision by IH.

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  • November 8, 2014 at 21:10
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    For all of you Alan Dunne fans out there, player ratings from WhoScored.Com the football statisticians! (-:~
    Rating
    Millwall Alan Dunne (DR) 8.8 *
    Brentford Toumani Diagouraga (DMC) 7.7
    Brentford Andre Gray (FW) 7.6
    Millwall Lee Martin (AML) 7.5
    Brentford Alan Judge (MC) 7.5

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  • November 8, 2014 at 21:35
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    The board will meet, sit down, look at the results and say good bye Ian... This is the time to bring in a new manager. We are going backwards.

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    • November 9, 2014 at 10:39
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      @teddy.T: they won't cos that will cost money!

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  • November 8, 2014 at 21:49
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    That's the worst I've seen us play this season (first half) and I go regularly home and away. Saying that I do not believe that our league position reflects the performances in each game in addition to us being very unlucky. I know everyone is entitled to panic and slate holloway but in my opinion the club has come on leaps and bounds since he joined so I can only imagine that it will be a matter of time before the results start to come back. I was also there today and thought we were desperately unlucky to lose to an og but brush yourselfs down now and go again at charlton.COYL

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  • November 8, 2014 at 22:14
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    WHY OLLIE KEEP GOING ON ABOUT PLAYERS BEING FIT , HOW CAN THEY STAY FIT BEING DROPPED EVERY OTHER GAME , WHERES THE PLAYERS OF OLD PLAYING 46 GAMES A SEASON , I BET U WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER THE MOON IF U WAS DROPPED AS A QPR PLAYER IN YOUR DAY , ITS BORING TALKING ABOUT FIT LARK , GOD KNOWS WHAT U WOULD OF SAID ABOUT GAZZA, MERSON ,MAT LE TISS , WOULD U HAVE DROPPED THEM , IF THEY WAS IN YOUR TEAM , DO ME A FAVOUR

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  • November 8, 2014 at 22:16
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    Great goal from gregs and a even better one from dunne..cant understand why we had such strong attacking side out...olly chose to use one striker as a f****** winger.(LG) thent swicthed martin to the left & lee to the right..total bolocks olly..if any one says dunny's to blame there f****** stupid ..& obviously not at the den.....p.s on a solenm note proud of the fans at the start.cant say the same for the away fans.scum..me & block just about to raise a glass to the troops

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    • November 8, 2014 at 22:54
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      @Jim28: they awarded the goal to Shittu Jim which will no doubt be used to distract from his pedestrian performance.

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      • November 8, 2014 at 23:31
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        @glyngo: not to worry gregs on tv got the credit

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  • November 8, 2014 at 22:18
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    Blah blah blah.....get off their backs and support them, it must really help their confidence booing them off at half time, f*** me it's not going to happen over night I've supported millwall since I was 9 I'm now 47 and yet I have never booed them off, I can't wait to see you all with egg on your faces at the end of the season, I doubt I will post on here again has I am fed up of all of you slagging your own team off

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    • November 8, 2014 at 22:37
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      while your post has some valid points.....where are you setting the bar that would constitute egg being smeared on peoples faces, a comfortable 21st place.....we could struggle

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      • November 8, 2014 at 22:46
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        We don't have the money or the attraction for decent players at the moment it is work in progress, I will say I was one of those with high expectations when holloway came on board but obviously the job is harder and going to take longer than he expected I have faith in him and millwall always support and follow millwall no matter what, it's a marathon not a sprint a run of 3 runs and we would be right back in the fold, the league is that tight

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    • November 9, 2014 at 11:47
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      @jcmfc1967: toodle loo shut the door on the way out......... You should have gone to does savers if you think this is ok.

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  • November 8, 2014 at 22:21
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    Wish I hadn't of read red this article! Mmmm.

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  • November 8, 2014 at 22:51
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    I couldn't believe it when I saw Macdonald on the bench, he's looked supremely fit and in great form. Why drop a player in great form and fitness? Sorry IH I just don't get that decision. Drop players that are out of form. Also Shittu can't play against strikers with good movement and pace. He is our 4th choice CB.

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  • November 9, 2014 at 07:47
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    Ollie my dear friend, you are in danger of being one of the very, very few managers
    who have taken a Millwall team to the Train Spotters gaff and lost.
    In the greater scheme of things, and 'work in progress', it means nothing of course.
    But it will leave you with sleepless sweaty nights, the term 'Clown' will really start to mean
    something, and please spare a thought for your postman.
    He will be making dozens of extra visits a day, extremely over worked while
    delivering thousands of letters of thanks from those Anorak fans.
    Sit back Ollie, chill, and plan very carefully over the next two weeks.
    Your postmans health is at risk.

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  • November 9, 2014 at 09:26
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    How some people on here still protect ollie is beyond me the mans a joke 1 changes team every game 2 praise a player drops him 3 says a players not fit then moans that fans av a go at loan Watford s*** who he says trying hard not his fault hes not fit 4 saying players need a rest how many international breaks we had this season so far plenty of time to rest 5 biggin up other teams 6 still don't know best 11or just wants to keep everyone happy ..list goes on been here long enough now no more excuses p***** having my Saturday ruined

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  • November 9, 2014 at 10:47
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    If our players aren't fit, why not use the next two weeks to get them there.

    These are professional footballers whose first priority is to be fit to play ninety minutes of football on a Saturday and again on a Tuesday.

    If they are not, it is the manager / fitness coach to get them to that level.

    If there not, don't pay them until they reach the standard.

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    • November 9, 2014 at 14:34
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      @bonnie1272: hear hear Bonnie part time player do a proper days work and are fitter than some pros just ollie using excuse after excuse

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    • November 9, 2014 at 19:00
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      A nice trip to Portugal should do the trick....

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  • November 9, 2014 at 11:02
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    Ollie comments were pure b*******.
    First off, the old one of praising the opposition to the skies rather than looking at your own team. Lets face it Brentford are a play off team at best. I looked at Ollie's comments and thought we had just played Barca not Brentford. Everyone knows we need a decent defender and striker its not difficult to see but he obviously sees things differently to everyone else, like Ranegie, he looks like he doesn't give a f*** to me not that he isn't fit. Besides if he truly isn't fit he shouldn't be on the pitch!! No stick him in a cab and send him back to Watford, they seem to be doing fine without him.
    Basically you can rant on about the Ref, praise the boys for the sprit and throw a load of other smoke into the room but the fact is it is now 1 win in 12, 1 win in 12, 1 win in 12 is that sinking in Ollie?? The clock is ticking, you have been here nearly a year and if you don't know your best team or you cant see what everyone else is seeing then God help us.............

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  • November 9, 2014 at 11:43
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    Agree he is talking b***** again and again and again. Briggs is a poor player, poor control , poor passing , poor attitude. If he had pressed or even made an attempt to press on the half way line they would not have got their first goal. IMO you don't understand certain basics after 18 years and stubbornly refused to see that Briggs was the problem, easy to blame Shiitu when you matched him up with a player with quick feet and pace to burn, we could all see that, why couldn't you. Give you some credit ! For what exactly ?

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  • November 9, 2014 at 12:32
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    @ Lincolnshire Lion, totally agree with you regarding Briggs, he seemed afraid to make a tackle. BtW, are you from Grantham? I met a couple from there in Block 9 that had come to the game yesterday.

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  • November 9, 2014 at 12:52
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    worst performance so far, showed character to get back into the game, mcdonald should have started and played 2 up front.
    Need balance, as briggs had no one in front of him again same as Cardiff game, this leaves him exposed and looking poorer than I believe he is ( I do prefer malone though).

    Pre season I said 10-15 would be good this year, 2014-15 top 10, 2015-16 make a push for play offs, still on track for that, need to walk before we can run, need a couple of back to back wins starting with those train spotters. Maybe try the same formation and team for maybe 5-10 games (injuries and suspensions allowing) and Dunney did alright considering IH will never ever play him at RB again.

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  • November 9, 2014 at 12:53
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    Sorry to state the obvious but Ollie you said it yourself Brentford are a few years in front of where we want to be and got hungry younger players read your own reviews and You'll find the answers

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  • November 9, 2014 at 12:59
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    Why do our players constantly change position throughout the game? Yesterday I was confused as to what role, Maggie, Chaplow, Gregory were all playing, so were they which reflected in their performance.

    Also, does Lee Martin have a free role on either wing because he seemed to swap from right to left, it appears that he can play either wing but I thought he was more suited on the left and Woolford on the right ?

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  • November 9, 2014 at 13:03
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    just stick someone on the left, magaye wasnt there gregory wasnt there, williams, chaplow didnt play there, someone has to use that space, we seemed very narrow and Brentford used every inch of the pitch, that little s**t Pritchard played in front of me first half and he looked a handful, why haven't we got annoying players good on the ball?

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  • November 9, 2014 at 15:50
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    In a way it was good we played this team, who were quick, played good football and played as a team. What it did, was showed just how poor we are. Shittu was far too slow and got caught several times, Briggs had a complete nightmare and even Martin and Williams didn't have the best of games. What happened to getting the ball down on the deck and playing football, that's what Ollie kept on about, weeks ago. In the second half all we did was hoof the ball up field and hope someone got on the end of it. I have never seen a manager in 57 years of supporting Wall who has made the kind of changes he makes. You have to find your best team and stick with it, barring Injures etc. Mcdonald on the bench, just unbelievable. Why do we have to go 2 or 3 goals down, before we start to play, why can't we start a game as we finished against Wolves and Blackburn? Ollie you are the weakest link...............................

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  • November 9, 2014 at 16:22
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    The strange thing is that we all know our best team now, with the possible exception of the centre half pairing. Pick this team Ollie and stick with it and we will soon climb the table.
    Forde, Wilkinson, Malone, Webster, Beevers, Williams, Upson, McDonald, Martin, Gregory, Woolford.
    You then bring Fuller on as an impact sub if needed. Job done.

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  • November 9, 2014 at 16:52
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    First half was as bad as I have seen us for some time. It was clear the system wasn't working Williams in my opinion one of our best players this season was rendered ineffectual. Back four definitely needs work too many long balls and panic on the ball. We look clueless from our own throw ins and give up possession too easily. Martin had a shocker all round and can't say I saw Gregory do anything of note but we need to be patient (remember Morison being like this in first season). We need to learn to start quicker. We seem to need to go behind before we get going. Good battling second half and we need to learn to win when not playing well. Definitely need pace upfront and no wonder fans aren't behind Renagie he hasn't offered any reason/justification for our support. I would rather see a youth striker given a run out or even a return of the 'Hoff' (at least he put a shift in) than a Watford surplus to requirement wage on our books. For all the Holloway haters I think you need to be more realistic. At times you can see progress and a style of football developing. Let's hope we turn a corner soon though.

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  • November 9, 2014 at 20:50
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    Play Shittu, don't play Shittu!!!!!!!!, play this player and don't play that player etc etc!!!!!!!!!!!
    Put wilkinson in starting 11 HELLO he's suspended otherwise he would have started you can't blame IH for that, and i agree we do need a settled 11 i dare say any of the top 10 teams have used as many players as IH and all the changes have not been necessary.
    I do agree that IH seems to have wasted a lot of signings on central midfield players and not covered over needy positions RB, RM, and an out and out striker. Gregory will come good playing up front on the shoulder of the last man.
    I would like to see a 4 4 2 at home and would be more than happy with a 4 4 1 1 away, but IH is in the hot seat and the lunatic calls the shots. Lets just get behind the starting 11 whoever that may be!!!

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  • November 10, 2014 at 18:24
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    Why did he rest possibly our best performer of the season so far in McDonald when there's a two week international break coming up, surely you start your best eleven available and then hopefully once the match is secured you can then take him off early to give him a bit of a breather not the other way around. Jesus the season isn't three months old and we've already had a couple of international breaks and he's resting key players, give me a break Ollie you're not managing a squad like Barcelonas, ALWAYS start your strongest eleven and while we're at it stop making wholesale changes, Burnley proved last season what a settled team can do but we'll get no consistency while you keep chopping and changing now sort it out!!!

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