Holloway shoulders the blame after Millwall lose at Oakwell

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IAN Holloway took full responsibility for Millwall's 1-0 defeat at Oakwell.

The Lions blew the chance to put daylight between themselves and the Tykes in the league table and are now just one point above the relegation zone.

Jim O'Brien scored the only goal of the game for the hosts, who gave their survival hopes a major boost with a precious victory.



Over 500 Millwall fans travelled to Yorkshire on Saturday and they made their displeasure clear at the final whistle after watching a limp performance.

And Holloway said: "I don't blame the fans [for their reaction].

"How upset do they think I am? I will take full responsibility for the result, you won't catch me blaming my players.



"We've got to stick together and keep going. We finished one point above relegation on the last day of the season last year and we've made ten or 11 changes since then.

"The rot hasn't stopped. It would have looked like it had if we had won today, which we easily could have with the chances we created.

"It is a very disappointing result for all of us because it throws us right down where nobody wants to be.

"Sometimes it might be your biggest learning curve and then you fight, get some resolve and then you pull out of it.

"We've been looking over our shoulders for long enough now, so maybe we can look up and catch some of the teams above us because there will be a few now.

"That wasn't the last game of the season. No-one has died, although it might feel like it."

Asked what he thought was missing from his side's display, Holloway added: "I'm not going to sit here and talk a load of bullshit about what we might need to do.

"We have got to win games and normally that is very simple by stopping them scoring, and scoring yourselves. Did we drop our shoulders after the goal? No.

"Did we create enough chances? Yes. Could we cross a bit better? Possibly. But you won't catch me blaming anybody because there's only one person to blame and that's me.

"It is my fault – all of it. I will stand up for my team providing I think they're giving me what I want. I don't take my responsibilities lightly.

"It wasn't the manner of the defeat that upset me. How many more chances could we create in the first half?

"You need something to go for you, but we're going 1-0 down all the time.

"We could have had a break away, but we lost the ball, it bobbled away from us, they've had two passes, stuck it long and suddenly it's in.

"That had not happened this week in training and we knew where the ball was going, but I won't be blaming the players.

"Up until half time I thought I had got a decent response, but the longer the game went on, the more they held onto things and we didn't get what I felt we deserved – a point."

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120 thoughts on “Holloway shoulders the blame after Millwall lose at Oakwell

  • February 22, 2014 at 19:53
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    You're a media friendly charlatan, end of.

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    • February 22, 2014 at 20:17
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      That's a bit strong mate.

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    • February 22, 2014 at 20:58
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      @lion.ie: Welcome back Lion.ie.

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      • February 22, 2014 at 21:30
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        @Sealion: Thanks mate, just dipping in tonight to let off some steam. Remember this?
        Are you happy with the appointment of Ian Holloway as Millwall manager?
         Yes (96%, 1,880 Votes)
         No (4%, 76 Votes)
        Total Voters: 1,956

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        • February 22, 2014 at 21:33
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          @lion.ie:
          I know Adsy77777 & myself were in the 4%, we wanted Warlock, he would have played to players strengths and probably have kept us in the Championship.

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          • February 22, 2014 at 21:42
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            @Mr_London: I was getting slated on here just for pointing out how bad his managerial record actually was versus the hype. No pleasure in being right so far and I hope he can turn it around but I really don't think he has a clue on how to get a team out of trouble.

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          • February 22, 2014 at 21:45
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            @Mr_London: I wish we'd have been proven wrong mate! And welcome back Lion.ie

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        • February 22, 2014 at 22:34
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          @lion.ie:
          What's the point of reminding everyone about the poll. Just to say that you are looking like one of the very small percent that was right and all the rest of us were wrong.
          Still lots of ups and downs to come and lots of points to play for.
          If he is successful though I certainly wont be reminding you of that poll.

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          • February 23, 2014 at 01:51
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            @wall2wall: I wonder what the vote would be if we were all asked now?

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    • February 22, 2014 at 21:11
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      @lion.ie: He is asked questions by the hungry media and gives answers thats how it works. If he dont say anything he will still get slagged off. Sites like this wouldn't exist if managers and players didn't respond to journo's .

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    • February 23, 2014 at 07:18
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      @lion.ie: MORNING EVERYBODY, HOPE ALL IS WELL FOR THE FUTURE ! BRILLIANT SUPPORT BH THE MILLWALL FANS AT BARNSLEY. I ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE LOADS OF FANS WHO LIKE - S.W.LION WHO HAS WORK COMMITMENTS, JIM28 , GRASSGROWER OR PECKHAMLAD WHO LIVES MILES AWAY BUT STILL SUPPORTS NOT TO FORGET KEVIN MY BROTHER WHOS BEEN TO SCORES OF GROUNDS, BUT CANT DO THE LONG TRIPS NOW DUE TO MEDICAL PROBLEMS: ALL THESE ARDENT FANS WOULD BE THERE WITH US TO SUPPORT THE LIONS IF THE COULD, AND WE DONT FORGET THIS. SO COME ON OLLIE AND PLAYERS GIVE SOME OF IT BACK. ( AND GOOD REPORTING FROM ALEX ALDO ) NO ONE LIKES US, WE DONT CARE . STORMIN' NORMAN............LOOKING FORWARD TO BRIGHTON.

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      • February 23, 2014 at 07:26
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        @bermlion: SORRY DIGGERWALL YOU TOO HAD WORK COMMITMENTS AND REQUIRED A MENTION ANOTHER GOOD SUPPORTER!

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  • February 22, 2014 at 19:59
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    go back to basics ollie . as much as you and us want to play attractive 4-2-3-1 footy we don't have the players to do so mate. 4-4-2 simple football till the end of the season, it might not be as attractive but it will get us better results for the time being! then BIG overhaul in the summer and get players that can do what you really want.

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:00
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    A lot of chat,it's not getting us results me Ole china! That's what we need!!

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:07
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    Even by saying he's not blaming the players his implication is that I'm not blaming them - even though it's their fault. Agree with Steve, he has to keep it simple, play to our strengths (whatever they are). He needs to get results any way we can. If he wants to change the brand of football; keep us up and then change it pre-season, now is not the time to be clever. Oh, and please, shut up for five minutes.

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    • February 22, 2014 at 21:21
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      @Adsy77777:

      We would be better off with a bowl of trifle in charge, this guy is a mad as a box of frogs and seems happy to stick to his "principles" to try and play attractive football and send us down.

      Today it felt we are doomed...

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      • February 22, 2014 at 21:45
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        @Mr_London: We'd be better off with Old Les in charge!

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:09
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    ,
    your signings have been s*** , should of signed a big lump up front , to much tinkering with the side , your side your players now , you take the blame , with twenty odd games when u took over , and jb backing all your too bob signings , on your head now , fear for jb staying with us ,

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:10
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    Just woke up! " shocked"

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:13
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    Time to keep it simple and stop with all the tactics' talk pre-game as up to now we have barely got 2 points against relegation contenders. The table doesn't lie and we could be bottom of the table next game as our GD is shocking. Survival doesn't mean playing pretty football - we need effective means but agree with muns above - a solid CF wouldn't go amiss!

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:13
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    We always hear about what went wrong and loads of comments. The chat should be during the week to ge t it right before the game not expletives after the game as it gets tiring to hear the same old excuses week after week

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:22
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    Pavey, Powell and Fred in the squad for Brighton. Morison, McDonald, Feeney, Campbell and Jackson can all jump under a bus, wage thief's. This Bessone c*** can f*** off aswell.

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    • February 22, 2014 at 20:45
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      @millwallstephane: agree about Morison , McDonald and feeney , Campbell and Jackson should be given a run and as for bessone he's only had 5 minutes so I'm assuming you went to Barnsley and he must have had a shocking 5 minute spell ?

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    • February 22, 2014 at 21:05
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      @millwallstephane: Steph , these sort of comments are ridiculous and pointless

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      • February 23, 2014 at 11:35
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        @timchimes: Agree with you was a bit p***** off, too see players play every week who do nothing gets right on my tits. DJ Campbell, Jackson, Morison and McDonald is a playoff challenging attack and we have only scored 5 goals in 8 games.

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:27
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    COME on fellow Wall fans keep the faith roar us on at the Den. We're all f****** angry our players are f****** us over but we must not give up.
    We have 14 games left, lots of twists and turns so come on you know it makes sense. Holloway expects us to make a huge noise at the Den.

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:28
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    A copy of my previous post, we might create chances but our strikers have an awful record:

    Why are we at the bottom end of the table, because our so called strikers have scored 12 goals in 32 games and our s*** defence has conceded 60 goals, says it all really. Too many average players picking up championship wages. It's gonna be a struggle to survive now and I really don't think that we have the players with the heart and courage to see us to safety, I hope they prove me wrong!!!!!!

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:29
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    If its your fault then Ollie do something about it and quick.

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:29
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    Seem to be making a habit of taking the blame and stop buying useless Argentinian players who bring nothing to the squad!!!
    And a more balanced team would be nice,

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    • February 22, 2014 at 21:08
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      @dpendet: on what basis is the new defender surplus? you haven't seen him play

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      • February 22, 2014 at 21:20
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        @timchimes: I've googled him he's 30 and played about 100 career for shittier clubs than MFC, so that tells me he's no better than we've already got!!!
        Will that do

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        • February 22, 2014 at 21:40
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          @dpendet: not really - wait till you see him and judge him on what he does on the pitch - there are way too many people who get on players backs for no legitimate reason and then wonder why the players don't perform

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          • February 22, 2014 at 22:46
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            @timchimes: okay is f****** brilliant and is going to be left back from Argentina in the World Cup! F*** off u div and stop looking to argue with people on this people at News at Ten

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:34
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    Our players are not clever enough or flexible enough to play all these fancy formations. A simple 4 4 2 is our only option.BACK TO BASICS IH......

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:36
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    I know a lot of fans are going to be gutted about today's result as I am but now is the time to do what millwall do best & that's fight for every point & stick together. Starting with Brighton next week. Mllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

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    • February 23, 2014 at 01:58
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      @block 28: a bit of the millwall spirit is called for..i remember a season we were written of with only six games left...we won all 6 & stayed up

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:38
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    I wish results were the only one doing the talking after a game NOT Ollies excuses.

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:43
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    Every player that has worn the shirt this season needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

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    • February 22, 2014 at 20:53
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      @harry2310: The only thing they seem to be taking a long hard look at is their bank statements.

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    • February 22, 2014 at 20:55
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      @harry2310: agree , but players wont be fussed , its not like real life , they will just go back to there clubs , or find another club , can u think of any players in that side today , apart from forde , and he is gone summer, that give a t***, they will have there agents looking for some other mug to take them on ,

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  • February 22, 2014 at 20:59
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    Yawn.

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  • February 22, 2014 at 21:05
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    Go back to 4-4-2 not all these fancy formations and we have to many players that are not upto the championship just division 1 maybe ok if we go down

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    • February 22, 2014 at 21:36
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      @Millwall59: mate Ollie said in an interview that he never has played 4-4-2 and never will so we're stuck with it !

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  • February 22, 2014 at 21:07
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    The number of times he said he wouldn't be blaming the players makes me think that's exactly what he will be doing! This current bunch, one or two apart, are not fit for purpose. Give me the likes of Dunne, Robbo, Jimmy, Craig (he hasn't done badly) any day ahead of the journeymen who will be off on their travels again if / when we go down.

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    • February 22, 2014 at 21:17
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      @drifter:
      unfortunately those players are not good enough and barely have been - the truth is since we came up we have been propped up by some quality players for different periods - morison was excellent in the first year (look at the records) we have had puncheon, townsend, wood and without them we would have been down for the last two seasons - we don't have those match winners now - just a little bit of class can make the difference

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  • February 22, 2014 at 21:11
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    No Ollie i don't want to buy any double glazing from you.

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  • February 22, 2014 at 21:14
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    every single player used this season should hang their head in shame.
    choose what you want to do with your careers play for pride or play for money.
    please dont play for millwall anymore if its about the money

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    • February 22, 2014 at 21:24
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      @gatecrasher:
      I have said this so may times on here but people don't seem to get it - this not about pride or desire to win - otherwise every team at the bottom of every league would be the same - are you telling me Cardiff Sunderland Fulham etc etc don't try or have passion - no, the issue is broadly their players are not as good as the teams at the top and so they lose more - that is the case with us - we lack quality at key times in matches - one of our best this year was Waghorn, but Lomas didn't know how to play him , now he is gone like the rest. Unfortunately I don't think IH so far has produced quality replacements - time is running out for them to prove themselves

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      • February 23, 2014 at 11:45
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        @timchimes: some of theese players have played under 3 different managers now.sorry but i care about millwall,not the players.
        i will be supporting millwall long after these playrs have retired.look at arsenal their saviour ozil has turned out not to be the messiah.
        holloway inherited a team of c**ts not fit for purpose
        we gonna go down but we have the players to come back up.personally id rather be top dop in league 1 than get embarrassed week in week out in a division we clearly not good enough for

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  • February 22, 2014 at 21:30
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    It is the manager's fault. To think the players don't care is naive. This is their career, this is how they earn their living. Most of the players we have would not just walk into any other team. Relegation would, in most cases mean a drop in income. If they are not performing to their potential, if they are not motivated, if they are disorganised even if they are not good enough, surely the buck stops with the man who trains them, buys them, picks them and supposedly organises them. I manage a business; if I employ the wrong people, or they are not motivated, or I put the wrong people in the wrong jobs, ask them to do jobs they can't do or keep workers who disrupt the team, allow people to get away with not doing their job - it's my fault. If I do all these things yet insist I am right as the business goes down the tubes - it's most certainly my fault!

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    • February 22, 2014 at 21:38
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      @Adsy77777: Jason Puncheon was on football focus today and said that after a bad start things picked up when Pulis joined and he can go on the pitch knowing exactly where he is playing and what he is supposed to do. Read into that what you will re the previous manager.

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      • February 22, 2014 at 21:52
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        @lion.ie:

        that's true - finding a simple role for some players is key - good managers make it look like there aren't any real tactics because things happen automatically - say what you want about allerdyce, but his teams have a known way of playing and they stick to it come what may - all the players know their function and he gets players to work to their strengths - lomas didn't and now IH (with some exceptions -Shittu) isn't either - we all see it and are bewildered - I keep thinking every week the penny will drop, but it doesn't - some days I think I mam trapped in a dream and that I will wake up and the season hasn't started yet

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      • February 22, 2014 at 22:08
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        @lion.ie: Unfortunately it's there for us all to see and with Ollie, hear. If he hasn't a clue what he's doing, how can the players know what they're supposed to be doing? He's patronised the players publicly about their fitness and their ability both collectively and individually. If it's not bad enough already, I can unfortunately see it getting worse as he loses the players and eventually the crowd. We had a chance to save ourselves when Lomas went but didn't take it. Gutted

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  • February 22, 2014 at 21:45
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    Seriously worried now. Didn't go so won't comment on performance as usual but again there are no positives when we can't beat the teams around us. Wednesday, Bolton, Yeovil and now Barnsley. Was looking forward to the Charlton game but now beginning to dread it.

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    • February 22, 2014 at 21:57
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      @southlondon1885:

      no co-incidence that we haven't beaten any of them - just not good enough for any given 90 mins - we have some spells where we are okay but not for long enough

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      • February 23, 2014 at 10:38
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        @timchimes: Every game we get hit by the same move, we push up too much then lose possession, ball over the top then in the back of the net. All the teams we play know this but we go blindly on like lemmings.
        STOP GIVING AWAY BLOODY STUPID GOALS.
        All this attack at all costs is great if you have strikers who can get you 3 or more a game but until then put the shutters down and lets have some boring 0-0's and 1-0's and stop this suicidal brand of football. Lets have boring, boring Millwall. It worked for Arsenal.

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  • February 22, 2014 at 21:51
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    Ok, I think holloway seriously needs to revert back to basic with 442 now, I know he's a brilliant manager and I clearly don't know more than him but I know 442 has got us this f***** far and I think reverting back to good basic football should help us survive this season then after this season we can build on that fancy s***!.

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  • February 22, 2014 at 21:56
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    Of course its Holloways fault. he can't put the same team on the pitch 2 matches running. 5 changes for the Yeovil game, 4 changes for the Bolton game and another 3 changes today. Pick 11 players in a 4-4-2 formation and keep with them barring injuries and suspensions for the remainder of the season and even if we lose some games we might have a chance of staying up. Holloway is as clueless as Lomas. Won1, Drawn 3, Lost 4. That's 6 points out of a possible 24 and I bet he has selected more players in those 8 games than Lomas did in any 8 we played under him.

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    • February 22, 2014 at 22:13
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      @denslions: palarse were glad to be shot of him. I know it's a contradiction, but I've got a mate who supports them and also knows his football (rare, eh?). He did exactly the same there as he's doing here. and it ended up a right mess.

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  • February 22, 2014 at 22:38
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    he was in charge for the 0-0 with palace last back end wasn't he? they were in the playoff zone and were awful on the day - we were there for the taking and they barely got a shot on target - zaha was useless

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    • February 22, 2014 at 22:49
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      @timchimes: And if you remember the 2-2 away when they were 2-0 up under freedman, they were by far the better team till moxey got sent off - palarse fans say they went backwards under IH.

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  • February 22, 2014 at 23:23
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    You told us you would not be afraid to bring in the kids if the present lot were not up to it. You could have had your pick of 10,000 plus who could have given you the answer to that. I personally like Williams and Upson, but you have also added dross to the rubbish we already have. Your spiel at first was more entertaining than Lomas' but without any progress in the results department it has become wearing. For god's sake put out a defensive back four, with Jimmy in front of it. Do what you want with the rest, hopefully it will include a couple of the younger lads. We might just get lucky. Just been looking up who's likely to be in Division One next year and who may come up from Division Two. Apart from a handful of teams it makes depressing reading.

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  • February 22, 2014 at 23:35
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    Yeh strange, for sum reason sort of thought we,d get the right result. Is it really that bad or had it got so bad before that it's just taking ages to correct? I think no matter what happens we have to press on and keep believing, weather we smash the place up etc etc won't make us win any sooner although I do feel like bein a bit destructive myself at the moment. If the players got booed off and Ollie has to feel sum heat on his a*** then tuff s*** cause that's how important our club is to the supporters but let's keep givin it everything. United we stand!!!!

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  • February 22, 2014 at 23:41
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    This seems like deja vue, didn't Lomas end up saying it was all his own fault not the players. But there is truth in that, lomas brought in players who were certainly not up to the job, and it seems so has Holloway. The same mistakes are being made again, clutching at straws. and hoping for the best.
    IH has a record of walking out when things are going wrong, will he do the same with Millwall?

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    • February 23, 2014 at 00:47
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      @Peckhamlad: Isn’t it the case that IH has a dream but not a plan? Reality seems to have no place in the world of Ollie - until one day it does: that is the day he realises that once again he has talked the talk but failed to walk the walk.
      Sadly IH seems to flounder about in the hope that if he changes the team enough times he might get a lucky result and find a team that works. I feel sorry for JB, who has given the fans the man they wanted and then backed him to the hilt - only to find that once again he has got a no hoper.

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  • February 23, 2014 at 00:00
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    JUST SEEN OLLIES VIDEO RESPONSE TO THE MATCH! COME OFF IT OLLIE THEY PLAYED RUBBISH, EVEN I STORMIN' NORMAN HAS TO ADMIT THIS. GIVE SOME OF THE PLAYERS A GOOD KICK UP THE BACK- SIDE. NO ONE LIKES US, WE DONT CARE. THE STORM................IS HONEST!

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    • February 23, 2014 at 00:08
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      @bermlion: the traveller has returned, well done storming, if the boys were showin half the ticker that you guys do we,d be winnin by 3 goals a game every week.

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      • February 23, 2014 at 01:26
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        @grassgrower: This one will go down to the wire...thanks millwall you know how to get to our weak point...lack of tolerance..i'am having another drink then i think i'll pass out

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        • February 23, 2014 at 02:19
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          @Jim28: ya p***** enuf yet jimmy to dull the pain? Better head down the bottle shop ta stock up!

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  • February 23, 2014 at 00:38
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    Listening to Steve Claridge talking about Middlesboro boss on the football league show -' when you take over a club you assess the players you've got and find the best system for them, you don't foist a way of playing on the players that they might not be good enough to play. If it isn't working after two or three games, you need to find another way'. Sound like what's happening at a club close to your heart Steve?

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    • February 23, 2014 at 01:11
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      @Adsy77777: the system we played last week was not quite there but it was the best we've played all season ..why did he bloody change it...I Noticed on m.o.d that palarse fans were throwing missiles at rooney ..F.A ??

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      • February 23, 2014 at 01:48
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        @Jim28: apparently they kicked off at spurs away as well, beating up blokes with their kids - my mate showed me on the palarse forum.

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        • February 23, 2014 at 02:08
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          @Adsy77777: I think it is time that Eric Cantona returned...

          As for the Lions, not really sure that Holloway has an idea in his head about what happens next. Only comfort is that now that we are going down we can get on with our lives. Only problem is that we will still have IH as manager with over two years contract in his back pocket.

          Wonder if Renewal still want to fill in the corners at the Den?

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          • February 23, 2014 at 02:16
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            @sierraleone: if we don't start winning they,l be filling in the corners to stop the fans getting out!

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          • February 23, 2014 at 23:36
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            @sierraleone: They probably want to fill the middle in as well mate!

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        • February 23, 2014 at 02:20
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          @Adsy77777: dont suppose the FA will do anything...it seems to me the o.bill want to hick of at den..they keep letting away fans out the same time as mfc fans..heard a rumour a little k4d got pushed by a boltö fan outside the club shop..

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  • February 23, 2014 at 08:09
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    Next season stop all the s***. stop signing stikers who clubs dont want and who are not scoring and sign someone like andre gray (luton) and a young prem loanee or even a millwall reserve player up top, fed up of signing players who have gone stale who arent wanted by anyone anymore. morrison tries hard but he isnt ruthless or a out and out striker juat works hard that isnt enough these days..

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    • February 23, 2014 at 10:58
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      @SLloyd23: I went off Morison when I saw him bottle out of a 50/50 ball in the Reading game which he could have won. He is no John Fashanu or Teddy Sheringham that's for sure. At least DJ gets his foot in although he could do far better and will not solve Millwall's striker problem.

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  • February 23, 2014 at 09:58
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    You can rant on about the manager as much as you like. 4 minutes into the game, a long nothing ball front, Malone asleep, got caught wrong side of player, 1-0. Then you are always chasing the game, no matter what tactics you play, if players don't do there job, there's not a lot you can do. Malone May be ok going forward, but he is a poor defender.

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    • February 23, 2014 at 14:51
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      @sups8892:

      100% in agreement with you, Malone cannot defend, cannot read the play
      he needs to be educated out of his bad habits

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    • February 24, 2014 at 00:51
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      @sups8892: he could be a good wing back...but he has to want to come bac...not stay forward..he has to learn to balance the two

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  • February 23, 2014 at 10:08
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    Just score goals how hard is that. Try working 6 day s a week for sh1t pay.yet we still find the money to come and you useless tw-ts try and control a ball and put it into a net whilst you are on thousands per week.

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    • February 23, 2014 at 10:54
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      @DELBOY64:you can tell millwall fans are the most passionate fans io the country..judging by the posts on this site...so its time to put aside the dissasters that have gone before..& look to the victories to come

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  • February 23, 2014 at 11:01
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    I hope the boys will turn it around and take us from the shithouse to the penthouse!

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  • February 23, 2014 at 12:19
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    Don't get to many games - and empathise with those who do - but went to Barnsley yesterday. Saw Ollie's first game at Huddersfield and was impressed by the commitment but with one or two exceptions didn't see the same yesterday. The midfield was overrun by Barnsleys' and in O'Grady who is a lower league journeyman who has played against us before, they had easily the best forward on view. View on the new signings:-
    - Fredricks - out of his depth and too inexperienced in a struggling team
    - Upson - some good passing but no aggression and don't think he and Williams together works
    - Williams - I was quite impressed but he is so so left footed
    - Campbell - disappointing at best but I keep hearing a colleague who supports Ipswich say he kept them up last year
    Way forward. We have to stick with Ollie. Agree with everyone who says 442. Pick a starting lien up we are going to stick with. Core of my team would be - Forde, Dunne, Shittu, Lowry, Abdou, Williams, Woolford, Morrison (if only because he's the only forward capable of winning the ball in the air). That leaves someone to play left back, on the right and up front. Thoughts anyone?

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    • February 23, 2014 at 13:01
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      @saracen:

      for me,....id have a gamble on leighton baines, christiano ronaldo, and danny welbeck......seems like we could be going down , we may as well throw caution to the wind

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      • February 23, 2014 at 15:35
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        @tonytowneronthewing: I cant see Baines leaving The scouser's to come here, the other 2 yes.

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    • February 23, 2014 at 13:03
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      @saracen: spurs kid ( r.mid ) bessone ( lb) jackson along side morro

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  • February 23, 2014 at 12:56
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    why not put spurs kid and Malone as our wide midfield and put dunne and argie as fullbacks. they both hav pace and will do their share of the donkey work if it don't work then at least we hav options on the bench, worth a thought

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  • February 23, 2014 at 13:03
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    Trouble with reverting back to 442 is that what they've learnt recently will no doubt overlap and what to you & I would be a simple system suddenly becomes confused & disjointed. If IH has brought Campbell & Jackson specifically to play in his new formation then those investments would be nonsensical if employed in a 442. IH should by now have found a formula to not only stem the bad flow but also win matches, convincingly. Our fate is sealed I'm afraid, particularly after the angry exchange of expletives from our own. Naughty.

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  • February 23, 2014 at 13:16
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    Can anyone confirm hearing either or both Malone and Morison telling our fans to f*** off yesterday? Morison's a repeat offender if that's the case, he's so full of himself now the c*** but is a s****** player. If anyone in our team has that attitude where they think they can criticise the fans, then they don't know what Millwall's about and can f*** off themself. this was on the millwall page on FB

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    • February 23, 2014 at 13:42
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      @harrythelion: there was no mfc fans invading the pitch to do em...cos if this happened they would have..someone telling porkies

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  • February 23, 2014 at 14:13
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    I think the rot set in at this club when we failed to sign Wood permanently at the beginning of last year. The money Lomas and Holloway have wasted on useless signings must well be in excess of the fee it would have cost to sign Wood. I know we all blame Lomas and Holloway for the situation we are in now but Jackett must share some of the blame as well. He left us with a lot of deadwood which Lomas and Holloway have now added to. If results had gone differently on the final day of last season we would already be playing in League 1. It certainly wasn't Jackett who saved us from relegation. We got 5 points from his last 8 games in charge, Lomas got 8 points from his first 8 games in charge and Holloway 6 so based on this you could argue that Lomas was the most successful of the three!!!

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    • February 23, 2014 at 14:25
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      @<denslions : lomas and successful in the same sentence, I nearly dropped my beer, don't think u can blame jacket when we got promoted everyone new we needed quality players. so its the board that's to blame if they threw money about then they wouldn't hav needed to give so much to lomas and hollaway

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    • February 23, 2014 at 14:38
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      @denslions: Good post Denslions. The Wood fiasco cost us big time but he almost single handedly kept us up. I also thought that not securing Wagstaff would be a big mistake and once again the money was wasted on journeymen with expensive reputations but no delivery.
      Even if we were to escape the drop this season which is extremely unlikely then we would be in the same s*** this time next year. We are out of our depth in this division both financially and in a football sense.
      It pains me to say it, but its like groundhog day.

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      • February 23, 2014 at 16:42
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        @Sealion: Spot on. All the cash we've blown on the likes of DJ Campbell, Morison, McDonald and now Jackson in wages we could have bought an up and coming striker with something to prove and who is hungry, someone like Nahki Wells who Huddersfield signed. We've just been papering over the cracks and throwing money at the problem whilst not addressing it. I've been posting in support of Holloway, but the one thing I am critical of is the signings made, we are crying out for a decent winger and someone to score goals and we brought in yet more journeymen. If we go down, so be it, but our youth policy and player recruitment need serious looking into so the same doesn't happen again in the future.

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        • February 23, 2014 at 19:21
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          @Kennyp: the youth policy if indeed there is one has been a disaster for years, i cant remember anyone coming through since robbo and he's 46 . Joking aside i know like everything else in football its expensive but this club had a proud record in the youth cup and for bringing young players on , not now .

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          • February 24, 2014 at 06:59
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            @thecolumbusblock: hey Columbus, I'm still comin to London in April to see the doncastor game and hopefully the qpr game away. They telling me it,l be virtually impossible to get tickets to that game? I remember you saying a while back to give you a buzz when I get to London , is that still ok if there's something you may be able to do? See how ya go with it and thanks. Grassgrower.

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      • February 23, 2014 at 17:28
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        @Kennyp: @Sealion: two players stand out cos their match winners..first KJ. Wanted punbheondidn't get the backing to buy (twice)..than came wood..if should of backed kj..even the mental one couldn't believe the board on this one

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  • February 23, 2014 at 14:27
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    Stick to your guns Ollie 4-2-3-1. Even if we go down, we'll be playing better football than them other L1 mugs and we'll come straight back up

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  • February 23, 2014 at 18:52
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    Don't see the idea that we would automatically get promoted straight away because firstly, we would no doubt lose players which he is trying to play like Barca and less in the way of revenue - both TV and sponsorship and gate money too. This results in less to spend on players unless JB digs even deeper to pay out which I doubt and may make him decide enough is enough with all the off footballing problems.

    This season was about survival but I too don't rate the journeymen both he and former 'manager' signed including sick note Bailey.

    Will take a miracle to survive.

    After seeing the FLS last night (shambles springs to mind in conceding and attempting to score btw) and wonder what Claridge thinks given his ambition to lead the club when he said IH was brought in to get goals but still leaking them?

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    • February 23, 2014 at 19:16
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      @dude: If /When we drop the expensive flops will be gone, McD is on a contract but that has probably got a get out clause in the event of relegation and even if we wanted to we could not afford to keep him (no great loss) the same probably goes for Chaplow and Bailey.
      Our hope then will be to clear out whats left of the squad, build the side round Woolford, Williams and Upson, get Andre Gray or someone similar and promote our most promising youth players before someone else poaches them.
      It will take time but at least we will have an hungry young energetic and value for money team.

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  • February 23, 2014 at 19:16
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    W'ere doomed,doomed! But I still shout COYL!!!

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    • February 24, 2014 at 00:09
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      @333lions: it may seem whe're doomed...but you can look at it another way...we got less games to play then the anoraks..so we got less to f*** it up...they on the other hand have 2 play back to back games for the remainder of the season ..more chance to f*** it up.more chance of injuries..& they have to play us...c.o.y.w

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  • February 23, 2014 at 19:44
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    Bring back Peter Anderson!

    All is not lost, we just have to grin and bear it. There is no other option.

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  • February 23, 2014 at 22:03
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    Try again, failed again, fail better

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    • February 24, 2014 at 00:25
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      @sierraleone: Blimey, Sierra, things are desperate when you start looking into the Sameul Beckett lexicon of gloom.
      Actually, Beckett and Millwall are made for each other...

      I can't go on. I must go on. I'll go on ...supporting the Lions
      The sun shone, having no alternative, on the nothing new...
      All managers talk, when talk they must, the same tripe

      And at every home game we enjoy his most famous play....Waiting for Agol

      Personally, I find T.S. Eliot has much to say on our current situtation:

      Those who have crossed
      With direct eyes, to death’s other Kingdom
      Remember us—if at all—not as lost
      Violent souls, but only
      As the Holloway men
      The stuffed men.

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      • February 24, 2014 at 10:27
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        @Eddie Grace: very good Eddie, especially the Hollow Men quote. The Waste Land also seems very appropriate, especially 'April is the cruellest month,...'
        I wonder if Holloway will be like Godot, who of course never arrives.

        Regards

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      • February 24, 2014 at 10:29
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        @Eddie Grace: very good Eddie, especially the Hollow Men quote. The Waste Land also seems very appropriate, especially 'April is the cruellest month,...'
        I wonder if Holloway will be like Godot, who of course never arrives.

        Seem to be having a problem sending this. Must be the poetry and prose police at Newsatden...

        Regards

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  • February 24, 2014 at 01:41
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    we are down lets accept that now and stop the bickering. we have to take a backward step to move forward. i think we need a 5-10 year plan if we as millwall fans want to see our club at the top end of the championship or lower end of the premier. a great example of this are swansea city. a snot club going nowhere struggling to get 5000 fans through their gates, their view was to play with a structure, youth mixed with experience. it takes time granted but we have some very good youngsters in the youth system. remember saddlier,cahill,ifill,reid, all youth team players thrown in when we went down to div 1, we wasted an opportunity with these lads so lets learn from our past mistakes and turn the club into what can become a fantastic club that can attract the right players that play on the deck, and with a hunger we believe all players who come to our club should have.

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  • February 24, 2014 at 01:50
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    14 games left.we still to play Charlton at the Den. They have the hardest run in than us. We're not doomed fellow Wall supporters and you know it. Get down the Den and roar on the lads.

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    • February 24, 2014 at 09:41
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      @Skins1970: In case you haven't noticed it is not all about Charlton, Yeovil and Barnsley have wins under their belts and are picking up points and have superior goal difference.
      3 teams go down one could well be Charlton but it also looks like we will go hand in hand with them.
      Every one down the bottom has wins recently bar us and frankly I can't see where one will come from.

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  • February 24, 2014 at 09:18
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    The man is a joke, he is a comedy. He thinks making people laugh by acting the fool builds confidence. You only have to watch him on the side line and think, what a silly c£4T he really is. Hated before he manged us, loath him now. He has walked out on every job his had, so he wont be here next year. We have the worse goals against record in the league but to stop this he continues to play 5 non-firing strikers. Federicks has done f*** all to warrant his place, we should of got adam smith back, he is on Bournemouth sub bench. Dunney is a defender. He can defend, frederick and Malone both preferred position is midfield. William and upson are weak, and i hate to say this, we miss Trotter already. There is a massive hole now he is not there, well aswell as jimmy doing all his running. Trotter like Smith, are sitting on the bench of their respective clubs. Oh Andy Keogh, played on the wings by Lomas and Holloway, goes up front for Blackpool and scores 2 in 2 games..... There is a cancer at that club and it formed under Jackett and it still needs cutting out. On paper we have the best squad of established players in my life time yet we are struggling. I need to go back to 442 or 451, 415 is shocking. Now Holloway as brought in this self acclaimed ex barcelona, any one how many games his played in how many years, oh, did he actually play for Bara? no Barca B? no Barca C?..... he was shocking on saturday aswell. Should of got sent off - he can go join that other waste of space in gavin hoyte!!!! now where should we start with him!!! kin hell! i bet he is on a few bob doing nothing,!! oooohhh i love being a millwall fan. COYL - we are s***, if we go down with a fight then so be it. See you all down the den saturday!!

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  • February 24, 2014 at 09:23
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    The anoraks have 8 games in march thats including the f.a. Cup....starting with leicester (a) also have (not in order) MILLWALL..derby..forest..burnley..watford..hudd/field....= 0pts...keep the faith

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