Millwall directors expect response to Middlesbrough defeat

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CHIEF executive Andy Ambler insists Millwall's directors were left feeling "as unhappy as the fans" by Saturday's 2-0 home defeat to Middlesbrough.

And the board now expects to see the Lions come out fighting against Watford on Boxing Day as they look to make amends for an "unacceptable" performance.

Millwall have now won just two of their last 12 league matches and boss Steve Lomas came under fire from some sections of the crowd after Boro scored their second goal.

But their record at home has been good this campaign – the loss on Saturday was the Lions' first in eight games.

Lomas' side travel to Vicarage Road on Thursday, face Doncaster Rovers three days later before hosting second-placed Leicester City at The Den on New Year's Day.

Ambler said: "The directors are as unhappy as the fans after the unacceptable performance on Saturday because we are all supporters too.

"We will be looking for a response over the Christmas period."

When asked at the weekend whether he feared for his job, Lomas said: "The board are pretty strong people but I can't make decisions for them.

"All I can do is do the job to the best of my ability."

Alex Aldridge

(@accordingtoaldo)

94 thoughts on “Millwall directors expect response to Middlesbrough defeat

  • December 23, 2013 at 12:21
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    Sounds like more crap to me

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    • December 23, 2013 at 13:21
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      Mark McGhee put out a team that performed like that about 10 years ago and rightly got the sack. Interestingly the exec lounge voted for him to be made man of the match afterwards. Although their votes were discounted, their voice was heard. Thought Steve Lomas was doing similar on Saturday but for some reason it has not worked this time. He has failed to sort out the dressing room, his hoofball tactics during the blustery conditions were moronic...what more does he have to do to get his pay off?

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  • December 23, 2013 at 12:22
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    I'm honestly fed up of hearing about this great run we've been on at home. They've been good results but performance wise most have been every bit as poor as the last couple of seasons. We threw away a 2-0 lead. Lucked a draw against QPR. And it took an own goal to beat Barnsley in a performance that was every bit as bad as the 'boro one we've just witnessed.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 12:25
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      @ChrisR: totally agree, we were lucky with some of those results and only really played well against Blackpool and QPR, as much as a don't base my opinions on losses I also don't consider wins as the only stat worth looking at. We are missing performances with clever set up and play as well as passion.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 13:36
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      @ChrisR: Our form at home has been good this campaign? Four wins out of eleven at home (15 points from 33) is only favourable when compared to our even worse away form. The club are sleepwalking their way to relegation unless they wake up to the curent situation.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 17:53
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      @ChrisR: Me too. Need to look at the opposition but this is just statistics which is like a lamp post to a drunk - more for leaning on than illumination!

      "The board are pretty strong people but I can't make decisions for them." - Pretty strong - oops! Sounds like he knows what is coming.

      The board are fans too? That is amazing when they appoint an ex-vermin, tin-pot jock lead manager with no experience at this level and whose assistant had more to do with their result than SL from what I've read.

      We have played poorly, no game plan, poor signings overall and nothing done to address the defence - even after the previous game he played the same CBs who need replacing. Time to draw up shortlist AA and JB and fast!

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  • December 23, 2013 at 12:23
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    It's not just Saturdays performance though.
    I read this as him being given one more shot at it and then he 's out if there is no improvement.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 12:40
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      @wall2wall: I agree and that it may sound ominous for him and it's been made public it means that at long last the powers that be have taken notice of the supporters ...perhaps something positive will come from it...whatever that might be

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  • December 23, 2013 at 12:25
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    OK so the Board are unhappy but what they gonna do about it?

    Wait till we're bottom,then act?

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    • December 24, 2013 at 08:28
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      @Millwallsteve:
      YES, THAT SEEMS TO BE ABOUT IT....................
      ITS NOT ABOUT GETTING A GOOD RESULT ON BOXING DAY AGAINST
      WATFORD.........................[ A GOOD RESULT ONLY DELAYS THE BAD RESULTS
      TILL THE NEXT MATCH...........................
      GET LOMAS OUT, NOW. [ AS HE DOES'NT WANT TO CHANGE THE DEFENCE
      AND BRING DANNY SHITTU, ETC BACK INTO THE TEAM RECKONING.
      ONLY THEN WILL WE, AS SUPPORTERS, BELIEVE THE BOARD !!!
      " NO ONE LIKES US, WE DON'T CARE "
      STORMIN' NORMAN
      PS. IF WE GET A GOOD RESULT AT WATFORD, IT NOT VBECAUSE THE TEAM PLAYED
      WELL..............BUT BECAUSE THE MILLWALL FANS, AS USUAL MADE THEMSELVES
      HEARD , BY THE NOISE WE MAKE IN SUPPORTING THE CLUB.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 12:29
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    If they're as unhappy as me, then something would have been done by now. And it wouldn't have been, have a chat with Alex Aldridge. We need to get a new manager in who will be able to sign some players in the transfer window, if need be. We can't expect Lomas to start wheeling and dealing when we are playing like that. He hasn't earned the right to do so!

    If we play like we did on Saturday. We will pick up 0 extra point by New Years Day

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    • December 23, 2013 at 14:01
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      @marknorman3: not a chance they're as upset as the fans as they would have sacked him by now if they were.

      Can't see us getting much more than a point possibly 2 in the next 3 games, maybe then they will be 'upset' enough to do something rather than more talk.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 12:42
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    I have always maintained that, for the good of the club, we needed to back SL, IMO, regardless of his former allegiances until such time, if it came, when it was proven that he was not the best way forward for the club and I stand by that initial stance, BUT, I think that now the time has come for someone else to take over the reins. Whilst SL seemed intent on developing a passing style of football, I could put up with the odd setback, but he seems to have abandoned that idea. We are now back to the point where we were, when through lack of attacking resources we just resorted to humping the ball forward hopefully. At least then we had a defence that could defend. The players seem demoralised and disinterested. I have heard that SL is not popular within the club and, from a former player, that the players don't want to play for him, something that's becoming increasingly obvious from the performances. I think the board have had enough, but were hoping for the best. I'm not sure that we can afford to sack him and appoint anyone decent in his place. Bomber doesn't have the necessary licence and would be a real risk in the position we are in. Harford, who has obviously fallen out with SL has, but not sure I'd like to see him in charge - Olly - No, no, no!

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    • December 23, 2013 at 13:38
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      @Adsy77777: Agree with what you are saying Adsy, but they didn't want to play for KJ at the latter end of last season, they don't want to play for SL, who the f*** do they want to play for the little luvvies?
      Perhaps its them we should get rid of because they don't seem to be Millwall at heart.
      We have all had managers we don't like but we are paid to do a job and we get on with it.
      It is about time they stopped behaving like spoil brats and got on with being a 'professional'
      In future perhaps the players should interview the managerial candidates just to see if there is someone they might occasionally want to play for.
      They make me sick f*** off the lot of them gives the kids a go they will be grateful and proud to wear the shirt. We cannot have the tail wagging the dog.

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      • December 23, 2013 at 14:08
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        @Sealion:
        Cue the applause.
        Totally agree Sealion. I dont care if you have no faith in the manager there is never an excuse for not giving your all for the shirt. Time to let the players know as well.

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      • December 23, 2013 at 15:05
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        @Adsy77777: @Sealion: Like you adsy i have and will supoort Lomas untill the board decide otherwise ,for the good of the club,i have been called a s*** by some posters on this site for doing so,but the real slags are the players who wont play for Lomas,because they are not only shafting Lomas they are also shafting every fan who pays their wages.
        what i want is for these players to have the guts to say who they are or if not, some one should identify those who dont want to give their all for MILLWALL FC,then whoever takes over from Lomas [if he is sacked] will know who the real professional,s are and he will also know who he can rely on when things get tough.
        After all does,nt a professional person play for a living and should be giving their all to the people who pay them, THATS US THE FANS.
        Can you imagine a barrister saying ;I DONT LIKE THIS JUDGE AND WALKING OUT ON HIS CLIENT.
        How about an ambulance medic leaving a casualty in the road because he did,nt like his supervisor,silly i know but this is what these players are doing,if it is true they wont play for lomas.
        sealion your's is a great post you have it absolutely right.IF THEY DONT WANT TO GIVE THEIR ALL FOR MILLWALL FC AND US FANS, AT LEAST HAVE THE DECENCY NOT TO TAKE THEIR WAGES,as i said earlier they are the real slags,not LOMAS,as,he has definitly got his faults,but at least he is trying and it now seems some players are not.

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        • December 23, 2013 at 15:28
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          @jim1222: I know what you are saying Jim and the players must undoubtedly take their share of the blame but ultimately it is the manager's job to unite and motivate the players in a common purpose; his tactics at times have been bemusing as has his selections which is bound to have an effect on the players and their state of mind. Hypothetically, if you could change all of the players in the squad and keep the manager would you think this is the best course of action or vice versa? It would not be the first time that a manager has lost the dressing room and it is a commonly cited reason for why a manager has lost his job. Do you not think that the right appointee (whoever it is?) would be able to get more out of this same squad? As I said before, it gives me no pleasure that project lomas seems to have failed, but it does increasingly look like it has - even he seems to have abandoned the idea of getting us to be a passing, pressing team and it increasingly looks like a shambles. If managers weren't vital to the performance of a team the best ones wouldn't get paid the vast sums they do and we wouldn't be having this debate.

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          • December 23, 2013 at 16:32
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            @Adsy77777: I cant argue with you, another good post.
            any way have a good christmas and whatever happens lets hope we all have a good new year.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 12:55
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    WE EXPECT A RESPONSE AMBLER ! SACK HIM NOW!!!

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  • December 23, 2013 at 13:06
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    What's this "great run" we've been on?! The term "unbeaten" in 8 games gives the impression we're doing well but in reality we're a shambles - we shouldnt be getting beat at the den at all let alone by a team who themselves havent won on the road in 22 games!!

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  • December 23, 2013 at 13:07
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    Ambler you are an idiot. If you knew anything at all about running a football club Lomas would have gone by now. If you think the players wil respond at Watford, then you haven't grasped the fact that the dressing room is in revolt. Personally, I hope we lose then you will have to find some backbone and do what you should have done weeks ago.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 13:18
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      @NICKOLA:
      How can you ever want Millwall to lose Nickola.
      This is the board publicly declaring that if he doesn't sort it he is a gonner. I personally have seen enough like many others to know that he is out of his depth and should be sacked now but wishing Millwall to lose is crazy.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 13:22
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      @NICKOLA: @wall2wall: I agree that wishing Millwall lose is crazy and un-wall like however if we go to Watford and get 3 points it'll just be delaying the inevitable for SL - personally I think its gone too far and win, lose or draw at Watford he should be replaced!!

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      • December 23, 2013 at 14:07
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        @TheBermondseyBomber: while I don't want us to lose perhaps if we did then lomas might be sacked and whoever replaces him will ultimately get us more points for the rest of the season.

        Lose the battle (Watford away) win the war (avoid relegation). Something like that anyway lol.

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        • December 23, 2013 at 14:46
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          @MFC Lion: Good way of looking at it and lets face facts our record against Watford is p!55 poor at best home and away!! So IF the board are pinning hopes on the next 2/3 games he's surely collecting a P45 at the end of the month!!

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  • December 23, 2013 at 13:15
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    At last but unfortunately 2 weeks too late
    Still better now than 2 weeks time.
    I now hope we lose to Watford with a performance every bit as bad as I witnessed Saturday evening so sl can finally get the boot.
    Now the question is who comes in ?
    MacLeish, coyle, holloway, warnock or someone else ? I don't believe the next man should be bassed on his understanding of millwall it should only be bassed on his understanding of English football at every level but especially championship level throw tactical know how, man management, self respect and humility into the mix and that should be all that's required. All the pressure of not knowing what it means to be wall ect ect is tosh as you need to be wall to understand wall, expecting people to have to understand it will never happen and we should not be expecting them too. First and foremost we are a football club and at the moment we need to go back to basics to stay in this division. If lomas is to be sacked then the new man needs as little pressure from us fans as possible so let's not waste time by throwing we are millwall this is what we do ect in his face cause he will go the same way as lomas.
    He's the only manager we've had that keeps coming out trying his hardest to impress the fans with silly talk after silly talk, it's quite painful to watch tbh and it's definitely effected him in his role.
    No one will get us unless they're one of us so please let's just concentrate on the football

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    • December 23, 2013 at 13:21
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      @lukesmithmfc:
      Again, wishing us to lose Luke. I know why you and others are thinking it but really when kick off comes you can actually make yourselves wish that we lose. That is totally alien to me and will be forever more.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 13:41
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    Really!!! What do you think us fans want? A start would be to sack SL

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  • December 23, 2013 at 13:51
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    If a loss meant the sack of Lomas, then I too would want us to lose. I find it "un-wall like" for the board and chairman not to be doing there job properly

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    • December 23, 2013 at 14:44
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      @Dazi:
      I know it's all about opinions and mine is that I find it un-wall like as a supporter to want Millwall to lose no matter what is going on.

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      • December 23, 2013 at 15:13
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        @wall2wall: wall2wall i fully agree with you and some of these so called fans should be ashamed of themselves .

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        • December 23, 2013 at 15:30
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          @jim1222:
          I dont think anyone needs to be ashamed of themselves Jim because I do understand the anger and frustration. It's just taking it all too far by ever wishing to see Millwall lose in my humble. I know they are decent supporters with strong views and they want what's best for Millwall. Lomas now has to get wins or he will be sacked in the New Yaer but I would definately take 3 points at Watford no matter what.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 14:05
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    Performances, especially at home, have been very poor for a couple of seasons now (except the period of Wood's loan). We can list the issues with the squad, the style of play, the lack of tactics, poor substitutions etc but the thing that really said it was all over for Lomas was his reaction to the 2nd goal and the abuse from the crowd. He just went and sat in his dugout. Behind the stewards. Hiding. This is Millwall. There is no hiding place. Weakness is pounced upon by the crowd. I would have had so much more respect for the man if he had stood up on the touchline and taken it. Mark McGhee was sacked after a defeat against Preston. He stood there for 20 minutes on the touchline taking the stick and calls for his head. Lomas hid for 6 or 7 minutes before heading straight down the tunnel. How can he come out after the Blackburn game and ask for more desire from his team to win tackles and headers if he is not prepared to stand up and face the crowd? The players are not blameless - many have had an horrendous season and are letting us down - but can they be expected to respond to this manager? I welcome AA's comments on behalf of the board but decisive action is required before the 1st January.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 16:12
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      @Langers:
      Very well said regarding Lomas.
      The only time I have really slated him was when we lost at home to Derby and he just sat on that bench hiding whilst everything was going wrong and then headed down the tunnel and left his players to take the abuse. This is not what leaders of Men do.

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      • December 23, 2013 at 16:22
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        @wall2wall: @Langers: Agreed!! Says a lot about the man - We can all be hard as nails when talking to the press - Different story where SL is concerned when actually faced with the supporters opinons and feelings!! Don't know how he can sleep at night when all the while he's telling the players they need to stand up and be counted when he clearly hasnt got the minerals to face the crowd after a poor performance!

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        • December 23, 2013 at 16:58
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          @TheBermondseyBomber:
          Exactly. You lead by example and if you haven't got the respect of your men your f*****.
          He is reeping what he has sowed.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 14:07
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    I want Millwall to win against Watford as I certainly do not want us to get relegated that would be a disaster. However I also want SL to go and I think he will as there are little signs of confidence for him coming from the top. The trouble is when? because he will not resign.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 14:09
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    Lomas has bee a disastrous appointment. Lots of supporters felt that but got behind the club despite their misgivings. He was appointed by an interviewing board of 3 people (so we were told) so no surprise it's fallen flat on it's face as not one of those 3 has any knowledge of football apart from possibly one of them that might have a small grasp However gifted a businessman Berlyson is he's no judge of football = he's an American and it's hardly a game that is steeped in their culture as it is this country. Doubt that Lomas will get sacked either now or when we get relegated as we have a chairman with a track record of sticking by managers.

    More meaningless words all part for the course in CEO speak conveyed to us peasants by the goissip purveyors of News ay Ben.

    This club is haemorrhaging support at a rapidly growing rate of knots for many reasons and the car crash that is Lomas is another tip of a very large iceberg that's been forming for years.

    Trouble is the club do a very good impression of not giving a flying f*** for it's core support and the sycophantic media that runs this board don't have the balls or brains to investigate that - let alone fly the flag of the support - without which there wouldn't be a club in the first place.

    We can all take defeat but not constant gutless hammerings so my ST in the drawer til further notice and Lomas and the board have achieved what marriage, women and work could never do - me stop going to Millwall by choice and of free will for the first time in over 55 years

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  • December 23, 2013 at 14:11
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    The Board must know many fans feeling about team performances/Lomas.And keep saying our Home form is good is just a smokescreen.Claridge was right when he said Saturday the Millwall supporters could put up with losing but would not put up with the pathetic performances and a Manager that is out of his depth. When was the last time we Won a game by controlling the it. When was the last time we did not concede bad goals.When was the last time the team played football and not hoof ball. Does the Manger know his best team and what formation to play.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 14:24
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    personally I don't think it was brains that pushed amblers hair out,the mans a joke ,sorry but like the rest of the board out of touch,with anything millwall,they all could not run a bath let alone a famous fan based club like ours,they are only now disatisfied ,who employed these jokers in the first place,its falling attendances over the weeks that is the real issue that's now registering.comments on this shower of s*** running our club,

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  • December 23, 2013 at 14:39
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    The board are waiting for a response? I think everyone else is looking to the board for the response. A lot of us were still hoping Lomas might come good before Saturday, but not anymore.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 15:19
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    Ambler do not insult us any further by calling yourself a Millwall supporter. If anyone else would have you we would not see you for dust.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 15:34
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    Apparently money is availble for the January sales, what positions do you believe we should should concentrate on finding replacements for? ..........My money would be on two centre halfs that can read the game and have a turn of pace.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 15:43
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      @Davey: I think we're lacking championship experience at the back (Shittu aside - and he's been very poor) We need a good experienced center half who can run and organise the defence - that surely has to be a priority - I think Robbo could do with a loan for a month but I don't think Beevers is a lost cause he just needs to be guided - lets not forget he is still only 24! We also need some width - Feeney doesnt count he's ineffectual in my opinion and Keogh, Mcdonald and Chaplow are not wide players - regardless of being able to "put a shift in" there

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      • December 24, 2013 at 08:41
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        @TheBermondseyBomber: Not sure about Beevers he can look useful but has been responsible for so many goals ths year. Youre right about the width, we need someone who can go past players and whip in a decent cross.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 18:07
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      @Davey: good call preferably one experienced,the other up and coming.what with all the overseas players around in all divisions there must be either one of them or british talent to purchase

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  • December 23, 2013 at 15:50
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    PETITION GOING ROUND F.B on 45 k group , millwall se london and millwall news page please sign it .

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  • December 23, 2013 at 15:57
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    Whoever is manager and whoever plays against Watford and Doncaster there needs to be clarity over what is expected of the player in each position. The players need to play with passion, commitment and use their common sense. The team needs to get the wingers in behind the full backs and get good crosses in (like the one Barnsley scored our winner from).
    I would start with Forde, Dunne, Malone, Lowry, Robinson, Feeney, Abdou, Trotter, Woolford, Morison and Keogh.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 20:27
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      @fatcat: I'd probably play Forde; Hoyte, Shittu, Lowry, Malone; Feeney (unfortunately - we need a new right mid), Wright, Moussi, Woolford; Morison, Easter. I'd probably bring Pavey off the bench because we need an injection of pace and invention. I think we need to get another striker in and a midfielder who creates chances. Keogh for me is completely ineffective and our midfield blunt.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 16:14
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    This guy is a complete moron

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  • December 23, 2013 at 16:45
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    First of all, we need two decent centre backs. Robbo is a shambles as he is weak, too old and and slow and can't even defend half the time, but I think Beevers has just lost confidence and is still promising. Lomas has to go also - half the time we don't even know what his tactics are and the Middlesbrough game was absolutely awful in every aspect of the pitch.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 17:28
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    Do your job ambler and get rid of lomas and then sack yourself you a*** licking t--t

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  • December 23, 2013 at 17:58
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    i think the bottom line is directors are to blame for the mess we are in , said it in september , shake lomas hand and admit u made a mistake , OUT OF HIS DEPTH SIMPLE , seems like a decent bloke , but they backed him with signings like no other manager in years, BUT THEY DONT WANT TO ADMIT IT WAS A COCK UP , ambler what about all the money me and boy have spent going away and seeing schoolboy football , letting in goals for fun , if u was a fan , any idiot can see no tatics just gunhoe football , BUT who can take over , alex rae was always my first choice when kj went , but i think he wont come cos of s*** some of of the gave him when he left. SO WHO WOULD WANT IT

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  • December 23, 2013 at 18:26
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    On leaving the Den on Saturday, I thought he would be given 3 more games, Ambler's comments have reinforced my opinion. I expect the board are looking for a minimum of 4 points from those games, including a battling performance against Leicester. If we fail to win any of those 3 games I'd expect him to be given the tin tack. A win at either Donnie or Watford with a draw against Leicester will save him, but I'm not hopeful we'll pull anything out of those fixtures

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    • December 23, 2013 at 18:45
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      @Bob_Start: That's exactly the way I see it Bob, two winnable games coming up and a tough home match to follow. As I said in an earlier post, without a win in any of those three games Harris could be in temporary charge against his home town club.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 18:27
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    is jb related to mr purser or mr eppel?

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  • December 23, 2013 at 19:33
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    I fear that we get a lucky win from a dire performance at Watford which will end up buying him another month..... Don't get me wrong i want the 3 points but Lomas has walked the tight rope for the last 4 weeks and every time the team manage a scrappy win which keeps him in the job....

    If the board knew their football they would of sacked him on performance related issues knowing that we cant stay up with luck... very worrying....

    Don't mean to be all Tan on the guy but he aint no Malkie Mackie....

    LOMAS OUT NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.... win lose or draw at Watford....

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  • December 23, 2013 at 20:47
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    Completely off subject.....What's Alan Dunne apologising to Boro fans on twitter for ? Have I missed something here ?
    Cheers

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    • December 23, 2013 at 20:55
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      @Block 8: I think it was to do with Dunne cutting their celebration short by interfering as he probably thought they were time wasting, however don't quote me on this but their celebration was for an ill team mate

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      • December 23, 2013 at 20:59
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        @Dazi: It was because Stuart Parnaby's wife lost their baby. Wrong place, wrong time for a tribute. The Den was in turmoil

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  • December 23, 2013 at 21:14
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    there are people on here going on and on about lomas to a point where they are actually saying they hope millwall lose in the hope that he is sacked. i consider myself a genuine millwall supporter and there is absolutely nothing on this earth that could ever make me hope millwall lose a game, nothing. if lomas does not get it right in the near future he will go just as other managers have before him. i really hope lomas turns things around,gets us winning and as far as i'm concerned keeps his job. but hope millwall lose never never never, hang your heads in shame.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 23:40
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      @bordersarebest0170: well said, I bet its just frustration making people feel like that. Ultimately if SL can turn things around to such an extent that we win our next 6 games, only then would I consider him worth more time and effort. Here's hoping he proves us all wrong and does manage that. Sacking him will cost us a fortune and therefore that decision will not be taken lightly.

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      • December 23, 2013 at 23:50
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        @glyngo: Very true, if he wins six in a row my mind would change.... and i have heard and seen on my facebook people saying they hope we loose so he can go... i think it is frustration as we all want him out and the only way he will go is if we loose a couple, otherwise we will be (swinging the Lomas yo yo) for the rest of the season.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 23:46
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      @bordersarebest0170: LOMAS OUT!!!! WIN LOSE OR DRAW

      Its a sticky situation but like i said if we scrape another win for some reason our dumb directors will have 3points goggles on.... In my eyes three points and a scrappy win is not enough.... Them players need to start grafting and playing well as the odd lucky win from an own goal will not keep us up....

      Would never want us to loose a game, but if we are to loose let it be now so he can go and we can get someone to turn it around before its too late....

      Also you say if he does not get it right in near future.... How long and what would you expect from team for you to give him another chance? Im not asking sarcastically would just like to hear your thoughts....

      We won against Barnsley, but i looked past the three points we was lucky and woeful against the worst team in the league... He should of gone then at least a manager would of had four weeks to get to the point where we are at now (pile of s***) and i think nobody could of made it worse haha

      LOMAS OUT....

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  • December 23, 2013 at 22:44
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    "All I can do is do the job to the best of my ability."

    Bye then........

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  • December 24, 2013 at 00:22
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    And now for a dose of reality!!! Just for fun
    * Take a brief break from slaughtering SL, JB, AA,
    * Study the Championship table.
    * Then tell me which of the clubs above us we can compete with when it comes to financial resources and fan base.
    Bournemouth? Maybe, but they've got a couple of mega-rich Russian directors and their home gates are higher than ours. Huddersfield? Possibly, but they average over 12,000 and were able to spend £1m on James Vaughan.
    Any more?
    Lomas WILL get the boot some time soon because, after being allowed to significantly increase our wage bill, he has failed to build a squad with the ability AND spirit required to punch above their weight in a ridiculously competitive division.
    His inexperience, abrasive style and tactical naivety HAVE alienated players - including some of those he bought in.
    But even if, by some miracle, JB managed to replace him with the best man-manager/inspirational leader/coach/tactical genius in the country how much further up the table would we finish?
    PS: The Boro team who humiliated us included three players who cost £5.5million between them.
    PPS: Our record signing is still the £800,000 we blew on Paul Goddard!!!!!
    PPPS: Until we start producing (and recruiting) top quality young players, Championship survival is the very best we can hope for.

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    • December 24, 2013 at 00:36
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      @Lonz: Good point, our gate would of increased massively of we had a decent start, the first six games was horrific.... but your right....

      Not enough of the 38000 wembley bandits turn up week in week out.... if we was packed every week we would be able to compete and would prob attract decent investors.... I must admit at the beginning of the season JB did put his money out there by increasing wages to attract better players and i would not question his ambition this season so far....

      I do think we wont get anyone in before Jan window closes too, reason being a decent manager will only come in with promised transfer budget for window and we have not got it.... 🙁

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    • December 24, 2013 at 07:43
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      @Lonz: This is unfortunately the absolute truth. I'm not saying KJ was a God, but we punched above our weight with him, because he was getting the best out of most of our players. When he resigned, my instinct was saying that we'd would relegate this year. When we hired Lomas, it went from instinct to logic that we would.

      He's out of his depth, at a club that was formerly punching above it weight. This was always going to happen. We've let in 42 goals in 21 games...

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      • December 24, 2013 at 08:30
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        @marknorman3: The worrying thing for me Mark is that I thought we would stay up due to the dross sitting below us. Then I saw us on Saturday and that no longer holds up.

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      • December 24, 2013 at 10:07
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        @marknorman3: @marknorman3:
        For three years KJ got the best out of the limited resources available to him before it all went pear shape at the end of last season.
        JB deserves credit for increasing those resources during the summer, unfortunately SL hasn't been able to get anywhere near the best out of them.
        Even with our increased budget we are still one of the smallest clubs in the division, which put a huge emphasis on tactics, preparation, motivation and man-management - all areas SL seems to be struggling with.

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    • December 24, 2013 at 08:21
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      @Lonz: Well said Lonz, best post in a very long time.

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    • December 24, 2013 at 10:19
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      @Lonz: Lonz your post is putting things as they are and how they are going to be ,its refreshing to see such a logical and sensible view.
      I hope all those fans that think we can buy this or that player with the revenue we have coming in might just start to think a little bit more,and see we are beggers when it comes to the transfer market,they accused lomas of only getting free transfers and loan players that other teams did not want,as it is you put it in a nut shell,and that is all we can afford.
      As for lomas the board,the fans and Lomas himself knew it was going to be a challange,unfortunatly it has not worked out so far,but the abuse Lomas has received IMO has been so unfair to the man,and has not helped our situation,all this ex west ham abuse was wrong after, all i dont remember harry cripps getting any and he had his testimonial against them,as a matter of fact i cant recall any abuse being levelled at any player we got from west ham.
      The main reason i have supported Lomas is because of the level of abuse he got from a certain section of our fans from the word go,sadly for no other reason that he was ex west ham and he was ginger,but it looks very likely he will go,so to all those who slagged him off i will ask one question.
      Who do they think we can afford,who will want to come here given the type of abuse SOME of our fans dish out,?
      Holloway,and a number of fairly high profile managers have been put forward but,would they want to come here?and be on a hiding to nothing,even if we could afford them.
      One thing has come out of this for me so far,it is that i will never forgive SOME of the players for their attitude on the pitch,they may not be able to play for Lomas,but they will still collect their wages whilst woefully under performing.

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    • December 24, 2013 at 10:46
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      @Lonz: Excellent post Lonz, have been saying similar for sometime but many on here just won't wake up and smell the coffee.

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      • December 24, 2013 at 11:53
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        @Sealion: I have been saying same things myself sealion, trouble is i cant say it as well as LONZ. LOL
        talking about smelling the coffee i think i will have one
        hope you have a good christmas and pray we have a better new year as far as millwall is concerned,

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        • December 24, 2013 at 13:01
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          @jim1222: Likewise Jim and a happy christmas to all on here.

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  • December 24, 2013 at 02:46
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    Millwall fans need to turn out every week but as soon as we start losing they make every excuse in the book not to go. Years A go we backed the team even more when the s*** it the fan. The club was run even worse then but it's not about the board or the players it's about millwall fans standing together coz THATS WOT WE DO!!! COME ON U WALL!

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    • December 24, 2013 at 10:20
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      @block 28: a good rallying call block.

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  • December 24, 2013 at 09:37
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    Hello all new to this post I supported the Wall by never missing a home game in about 30 years and stopped attending when we signed those 2 famous Russians by watching a film of them and the club went bust. However would luv to start attending again but after watching that the other night why would I waste my money.
    I still follow the club by the media etc and I used first go when we have always had battlers in defence and a good ball player such as Keith Weller, Amon Dunphy I can't name one decent player in this shower we need youngsters not a team of mercenaries you cannot build team spirit around loan players also I believe JB has good intensions or is he waiting to cash in on the land

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    • December 24, 2013 at 10:23
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      @kell: do we own the land also we can only afford loan players because fans such as your self dont come to the den.

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      • December 24, 2013 at 11:16
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        @jim1222: don't believe the rubbish about at the land around the Den being worth a great deal. Any development will not ultimately pay back to the board or the club, we are so influential in the development plans that there was a danger that the club would have to move! JB is not in it for some fantasy property development deal, it is simply a fantasy I the minds of fanatics.

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  • December 24, 2013 at 09:55
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    My watford 11,forde,dunne,shittu lowry malone wright trotter abdou easter mcdonald morison 433 just go for it , cant do any worse

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    • December 24, 2013 at 10:59
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      @DELBOY64: Good selection except I would give a try to Moussi if he is fit alongside Trotter and have Jimmy as sub.

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    • December 24, 2013 at 12:21
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      @DELBOY64: 451 ; Forde Dunne Shittu Lowry Malone Martin Bailey Abdou Fred Woolford Pavey.

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  • December 24, 2013 at 11:20
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    I wonder how much say SL had over the Summer signings, remember that Easter and Chaplow were already attached to the club before he arrived, and I think Bailey was rumoured to be in negotiations the season before as well. Its the signings after SL startedthat seem to have not worked out.

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  • December 24, 2013 at 11:44
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    Jim1222 I know I don't come now but 30 years of ups and down divisions 1-4 all my family are from bermondsey and have all stopped going as I say over 30 years and only ever missed a handful of games
    They need to show some millwall spirit to win the fans back we will never manage these loan signings

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  • December 24, 2013 at 11:47
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    watford haven't won for 10 games, play like saturday we will lose 3 or 4 nil. donny rovers another gigantic f*** up on the horizon. then leicester shitty . zero points looks a distinct possibility over the next 3 games. the board need to act or risk the team going into meltdown. I for one don't blame lomas its a job that you hope you do well. the blame lays firmly at the feet of our board of inept directors. when they do sack lomas one or more of the board need to go as well.

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  • December 24, 2013 at 11:52
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    Sorry to interupt the thread but this is going to be my last chance to wish everyone on this site a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
    I know what most Millwall fans want for Christmas this year and I have a feeling your present is going to be around 2-3 weeks late this year.
    Millwall forever no matter what.
    COYL.

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  • December 24, 2013 at 12:23
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    Cheers peckhamlad, if bailey fit then hin instead of jimmy,wright at least can pass the ball

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  • December 24, 2013 at 13:36
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    Thats assuming that our defence dont launch it to there keeper and miss out the midfield as they have done all season

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  • December 24, 2013 at 14:26
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    @lonz and jim. thank goodness i can read what in my oppinion are sensible, and logical points of view that you both present,they are my thoughts procisely. west ham,ginger,irish,and all the rest of the abuse dished out on here to a man trying his best to do his job is pointless and totaly irelevent. twenty odd games is not very long to establish a good winning team, and our chairman will not let the failure to do so continue for very much longer, the chairman is a very clever buisness man who has made millions, he didn't achieve that by not knowing what he's doing, but he must be fair and give the manager that he appointed a little time to dig himself out the mire that he is in.

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