Forde: Watford is massive game after back-to-back defeats

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DAVID Forde admits Millwall's Boxing Day clash at Watford has taken on even greater significance after Saturday's demoralising defeat to Middlesbrough.

The Lions have not beaten the Hornets at Vicarage Road since 2006 but need to produce an instant response to their woeful display in front of the TV cameras last weekend.

Boro claimed a 2-0 victory at The Den thanks to second-half goals from Emmanuel Ledesma and Albert Adomah – a result which left the home fans furious.



"Given the run of form we had been on at home, to put in a performance like that was very disappointing," Forde said.

"We weren't at it, we weren't good enough and we have got to do better. The manner of the defeat was the most disappointing thing. We were all very poor.

"It's onto to Watford now – a side we have always struggled against in the past, so hopefully we can change that.



"It is a massive game now because all of a sudden we have lost two on the bounce and need to get a win. The pressure is on for that one.

"The only saving grace on Saturday was that the teams below us didn't win so we've still got a buffer zone between us and the relegation zone."

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37 thoughts on “Forde: Watford is massive game after back-to-back defeats

  • December 23, 2013 at 10:02
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    LOMAS OUT!!!

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    • December 23, 2013 at 10:36
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      @steveomfc5: After witnessing that woeful display on Saturday I really do now believe Mr Lomas has got to go. It's a shame because at the start of the season everything looked so promising and now it just looks embarrassing.
      To say that I would be surprised if we get a result at Watford would be an understatement BUT even if we do – which would be the first time since 2006 apparently – he still needs to be on his way as we just can’t keep going from game to game not knowing whether our players want to play or not.
      I honestly thought that there would be an announcement today regarding a vacancy for the Manager’s job but as yet nothing.

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      • December 23, 2013 at 10:52
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        @REAL Supporter: same even after i got over the whole lomas thing which took sometime let me tell ya ! i was fair enough and said ill give him 15 games it was more the lack of experience at this level than anything else , but let's face it the whole ex-vermin thing was never far behind for anyone . he's had 20 ish games off the top of my head we had won 10 this time last year and barely stayed up we've won 5 this year so far which tells us what we need to know . the fact that all our players are coming out saying this is vital that is vital this is a must win to bounce back is b******* , fed up with it now he's out of his depth big time tactically inept ! from zonel marking LOOOL to bad team choices to even worse timed substitutions . the players don't believe in him and we certainly don't . our protests or not going will be key to getting rid of him ! i don't care if we win the next 8 games i want him gone for the sake of the divide his appointment has caused between US the most important thing THE FANS!!! the sooner J.B pulls his head outta his a*** and relises that without us he's nothing here the better!

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    • December 24, 2013 at 08:31
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      @steveomfc5:
      YES, YES, YES......................
      YOU'VE HAD YOUR CHANCE !!!!!
      NOW, OUT, OUT, OUT .........................
      =============
      " NO ONE LIKES US, WE DON'T CARE "
      THE STORM

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  • December 23, 2013 at 10:28
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    LOMAS OUT!!

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  • December 23, 2013 at 10:37
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    Has he gone yet?
    How many times do we hear next game is vital?Boring.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 10:45
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    Watford have some quality players and play a very Italian 3-5-2. We will be f****** opened up and torn apart like my last can of Corned Beef if we play like we did on Saturday. The pitch is grass, but it may as well be f****** clay or sand because we never play the ball along it. Try using that grass lads

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  • December 23, 2013 at 10:48
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    I am unfortuately going to watford , hope he just shalkes the team up as a last resort.the whole back 4 are a shambles , forde stop launching the ball to the other keeper and get wright in to at least pass the ball around, lowry and shittu at centre half and morro and easter up front. Then if no result lomas has to go

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  • December 23, 2013 at 10:50
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    According to the Daily Mirror Lomas wants to get Ryan Shotton on loan from Stoke after he has returned on loan from Wigan. The 25 yr old defender has been on loan to Altringham, Tranmere, Barnsley and Wigan and has scored 12 goals during his career. But what's the point? Lomas brings in loan players and doesn't play them, like Guy Moussi who looked thoroughly miserable sitting on the bench Saturday.
    If Lomas wants to change Millwall's fortunes he should do the decent thing and resign.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 11:03
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      @Peckhamlad: The Center backs look so out of sorts ,time he changes it and we have no money so oh Ginger one lets get get the under 21s on who are hungry for it , you never know it may well save your a*** otherwise kiss it goodbye !!!!!

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  • December 23, 2013 at 10:53
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    Why say before boro that he would change the back 4 yet still play them. Sorry to say robbo looks flat footed and i could beat him in a race and bambi next to him needs a kick up the a*** so just get shittu and lowry in at least they will launch the forwards in the air if they try to go past them

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  • December 23, 2013 at 11:03
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    Every time there is a defeat, one of the 'seniors' speaks up saying how poor the team were in this last game and how the next game is vital or massive.

    And so on.

    This pattern of communication has become so regular, it's patronising.

    We know the performance was poor on Saturday. It was very poor.

    Instead of coming on here and telling us what we already know, as a management team and as a playing team please go and do something about it.

    For the management team and the coach that is about leadership, coaching and guidance.

    For the playing team, let your feet, your ball skills, your movement, positioning and attitude do the talking.

    That's why we support our club.

    Every time we get a post like this it diminishes the credibility of the player and the club.

    Words are inadequate.

    Use this channel to tell us something we don't know.

    This appears to be all part of the current set up's approach to 'communicate'.

    But it's just become noise.

    Communication is a two way process.

    There is only message from most of us here by return.

    The message is to John Berylson.

    It goes like this:

    John, we believe that this group of players can perform better than they do currently under the right leadership.

    It is always the leader who carries the ultimate responsibility.

    Please remove Steve Lomas and replace him with someone who has Championship experience.

    Thank you.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 20:42
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      @kitch: Totally agree posted yesterday Vote Now LOMAS OUT.
      And Berylson get some Boll.....s and sack the Pratt

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  • December 23, 2013 at 11:09
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    Well that was obvious and disappointing
    I really was hoping the next news to be lomas has left millwall by mutual consent.
    Soooooooooooo bored with the players coming out talking crap every week and tbh I won't believe a word any of those cheating b******* have to say again. Collectively the biggest disloyal dishonest shower of s*** I can remember at our club. Horrible load of stnuc.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 11:09
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    Yawn Yawn.
    I dont even bother reading past these headlines anymore when it's the players stating the bleeding obvious.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 11:20
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    Don't really care anymore, still can't believe he ain't been sacked yet, will not go again until he has gone.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 11:21
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    Words are cheap all the players say the same thing week in week out "We were poor" ..... Let us, the supporters see some action to readdress this ..... Action from the top is what is needed, there's none there. Thus it filters down the ladder to the players there Action's speak volumes to me.
    Let us see ACTION from the TOP down and perhaps we'll prevent what seems inevitable to me .... relegation

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  • December 23, 2013 at 11:34
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    Blah blah blah... Yes another player speaking out. We don't care... Lomas Out!!!!

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  • December 23, 2013 at 11:39
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    Dave. Any chance you could pass the ball out on the floor instead of simply hoofing it up field because as you can see the hoofy up in the air style simply gets headed away by opposition defenders 98% of the time. The sexy, dynamic hoof ball style of glittering football that we play all starts with you.
    Ball on the floor goooooood, ball in the air baaaaad
    Faaanks!
    ps Lomas out!

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  • December 23, 2013 at 11:55
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    All this lomas out talk is getting really boring.
    Watford might be beatable seeing as they have a new manager who doesn't speak English and has never managed outside Italy, do will hopefully not know much about us.
    Trotter had a good game there last season, let's hope he has another this time.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 13:47
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      @benzo: he will have watched our game against borough and seen that we are dog s****. We always do awful against Watford. If we can concede less than 2 I will be in shock.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 11:55
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    When you hear and read various sound bites coming from AA and JB off various sites whether that is off NaD or off LionsLive you can’t help but start to feel there something more sinister at work here. Last time JB was on LionsLive (A few weeks ago) he talked of his disappointment that considering the club had been in the Championship for a number of seasons now attendances were not really increasing and yet the cost of operating in the Championship was consistently rising and to stay competitive is costly which it understandably didn’t sound to happy about.

    Now what if JB and AA with the rest of the board did the sums and realised it would benefit them and the club far more IF we return back to League One where attendances’ will still stay around that hardcore 9000 mark but operating costs, overheads and most importantly players wages will have to be cut inline with FFP (Financial Fair Play). JB is always lobbying and making comments about the need for a players wage cap – to which most, if not all of us would whole heartily agree with. But those major caps are not just going to happen overnight not while the Premiership is so corrupt and isn’t there some financial rule that is already in place for leagues below Championship level about cost versus income so every club has to cut their cloth accordingly?

    Now what if JB has felt that with clubs coming down with multimillion pound parachute payments, the average crowd sizes at a lot of clubs in the division and chairman with perhaps even deeper pockets than him who are prepared to push harder to bring the best managers, coaches, facilities and experiences to their respective clubs leaves him a little flustered then this would all be cut out to some extent by simply playing in the league below. Here we would perhaps be a slightly bigger fish in a smaller pond (just look at how well Leyton Orient, Brentford and Peterborough are all doing) crowds will turn out more or less the same as Championship games, away fans will bring minimal amounts as they do in the Champ and revenue returns can be maximised.

    So how does Chairman and Board decide “Ok we want to go down a division because its so much more financial viable for this club but there is no way on earth we can outright say that to the fans without there being complete mayhem at our gates”… “With Kenny gone now lets hire an inexperienced tactically inept manager with no experience of managing in any English league and just limited experience in management altogether to basically drives us down the league and downward to relegation.” “We will come out and say we stick by the manager no matter what, not listen to the fans protest throughout and he WILL become the focus point of all the fans hate and frustration.” “What says it more than us hiring a manager with ex-west ham affiliation as well, even better!” “In turn we get what we want, League One football and then we will sack him and say we tried to show loyalty by giving the new man a bigger budget and more money than Kenny ever had but it just wasn’t meant to be”. “By then the fans will be thoroughly sick of the manager and he would of soaked up most of their anger!”

    So Steve Lomas I say to you, step down, walk away, it seems the board are just using you as a convenient escape goat, a shield for them to soak up all of the fans anger and frustration while you unwittingly for your good honest intentions to manage an English club in the second tier, you will just end up with getting a club relegated on your CV as most recent managerial job, thus achieving the boards financial aims. You don’t want relegation on your CV do you Lomas, not after getting St. Johnston European football and a top five finish? Walk while you can because they wont sack you... not yet anyway, not until you achieve their aim of relegation, do not be a puppet or yes-man to this board Lomas.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 12:07
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      @Bexley_Lion: that's some conspiracy bexley.

      But, if that was the case, why would the board give him more money in the first place. Surely that would have been better kept in reserve for a year or two down the line.

      Personally, I don't lay the blame with the board.

      However, we have all seen how JB allows his manager time, he is not exactly known for firing managers is he. I think he still believes SL is the right appointment and he will turn it round.

      I don't and I only hope JB loses patience soon.

      LOMAS OUT

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      • December 23, 2013 at 12:34
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        @Sealion: @bonnie1272: I agree it is absolutely a stretch of conspiracy theory for sure. Personally I think I am just trying to make heads or tails out of the whole situation. If we are led to believe that the two most viable candidates for the managerial role was Steve Lomas and Steve Kean then I fear this situation we find ourselves in this season was inevitable and the rot of last season still looms thick in the air.

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        • December 23, 2013 at 15:59
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          @Bexley_Lion: I think when a manager looks at a vacancy he checks out the existing playing staff the weaknesses and the amount of budget available to spend.
          The reason we only supposedly had Kean and Lomas as viable candidates was that managers are not usually stupid so after checking out the situation here you were only going to get an inexperienced manager trying to get a start in the championship or even the FL or someone who is desperate and both would be cheap.
          An experienced manager would not have been willing to take on all the inadequacies with such a limited budget, they are not miracle workers there has to be something for them to work with such as Derby which has a fine squad of young hungry players.
          Many of the names banded about on here in the past have walked from their clubs because of inadequate funds to rebuild.
          I know JB has provided money for SL but it is still small beer compared to what other teams have spent. Many have spent much more on a single player.
          I am not saying I am right but it is what I think for what its worth.

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    • December 23, 2013 at 12:20
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      @Bexley_Lion: We could have gone down quite efficiently with the players from last season without signing expensive players (wages that is) like McD, Chaplow and Bailey etc.
      Some of what you say about the finance of playing in Div 1 makes sense but in that case we may just as well have stuck with what we had.
      I like a good conspiracy theory but unfortunately this is not it (IMO)

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  • December 23, 2013 at 11:56
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    Stop beating the same old drum.

    We are tired of empty words.

    Actions speak louder.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 12:07
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    Strange silence from JB and the board...is that ominous for Lomas?

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  • December 23, 2013 at 12:30
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    Cant see us scoring let alone getting a result.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 12:33
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    Odds are out for Lomas to get the sack now at the bookies! 8)

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    • December 23, 2013 at 13:54
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      @lion01: come on JB stick a fat wedge on Lomas to get the sack and use the profit to buy us a new defense!

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  • December 23, 2013 at 14:36
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    Bookies not taking bets, I have asked.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 15:51
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    PETITION GOING ROUND F.B on 45 k group , millwall se london and millwall news page please sign it .

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  • December 23, 2013 at 15:51
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    every game this season forde, has been a big game for us,and every game to come will be massive to our survival .surely with new managerial staff at spurs provider of good players to us either bought or loaned from in the past could provide some of our worrying defensive issues with some new players.offloaded in January transfer market.

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  • December 23, 2013 at 19:04
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    Why is it that after every poor showing & result a player comes out & states the obvious. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!

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  • December 23, 2013 at 20:24
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    It was not disappointing, and poor, it was plain old fashioned s***. I bet you can't wait to get to Celtic so you don't have to keep being an apologist for this crap team and shocking management.

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