Millwall boss: Forde kept score down in defeat to Leicester

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STEVE Lomas admitted Millwall had David Forde to thank for keeping the score down in their 3-0 defeat to Leicester City on Saturday.

Lloyd Dyer's volley and Jamie Vardy's brace sealed a comfortable win for the league leaders.

The Foxes had an astonishing 30 shots on goal during the match and Forde made a number of superb saves to prevent the home side from adding to their total.



"Thankfully Forde was in fantastic form," Lomas said. "It could have been a lot worse – let's not make any bones about it.

"I'm very disappointed. We wanted to hang in there and that's why we went one up front with five in midfield and we started okay.

"We knew Leicester would come at us out of the traps and try and win the game early. It looked like we had got ourselves in the game but we then conceded a very, very poor goal.



"Their player got behind our midfield and ran straight through.

"But we hung in there, got to half time, put another up front by bringing Stevie Morison on and it looked like we started quite brightly.

"So to concede the second goal from our own corner, when we had warned the lads about their pace on the counter, was a massive disappointment."

Vardy scored Leicester's third goal following Scott Malone's error.

"It was a poor one," Lomas added. "There is nothing really much you can do as a manager about individual errors, that’s just about decision making out on the pitch.

"Even if you are 1-0 down or 2-0 down you've got to make correct decisions and we didn't.

"What we have got to do is bounce back against Nottingham Forest on Tuesday. We have been good this season at bouncing back after defeats.

"Our home form has been decent so we've got to look to the positives, but one thing is for certain we've got to play better than we did today because Forest are a good side.

"Nobody can have any complaints if there are changes to the team. I thought the lads who came on in a difficult situation – Andy Keogh, Lee Martin and Stevie Morison – did well."

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177 thoughts on “Millwall boss: Forde kept score down in defeat to Leicester

  • November 30, 2013 at 18:25
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    30 f****** shots ? I think we might be in a spot of bother !

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    • December 1, 2013 at 17:07
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      @thecolumbusblock: what will happen if forde does go to celtic as rumoured

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    • December 2, 2013 at 13:19
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      @thecolumbusblock:

      ANOTHER THREE CHEERS FOR DAVID FORDE !!!!
      QUITE RIGHT...............HE DESERVES A SPECIAL AWARD !!!
      YET AGAIN, HE MADE SAVE AFTER SAVE........TO KEEP THE SCORE - LINE
      TO ONLY 3 - 0...........................
      I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THE TWO "D,s"
      DANNY AND DAVID PLAY IN THE TEAM FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON,
      THEN WE WILL CLIMB UPWARDS IN THE LEAGUE.................

      " NO ONE LIKES US, WE DON'T CARE "

      STORMIN' NORMAN

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  • November 30, 2013 at 18:26
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    Is this meant to make me feel better? We lost 3-0 you damm fool !!!

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  • November 30, 2013 at 18:29
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    All he can say is 'we wanted to hang in there' f*** me I want better than that from my team. Just go Lomas while the club have time to sort its self out.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 18:31
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    that what we need son, more changes!!! get hammered tues and its game over for SL

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  • November 30, 2013 at 18:31
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    Another heavy defeat. Dunney will be back again soon.
    I never ever expected us to win this game but losing like that makes it no easier.
    I can't see the board sacking SL anytime soon as that may be seen as an admission of appointing the wrong man for the job.
    3 points very much needed against a good Forest side Tuesday................... time will tell

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    • November 30, 2013 at 19:10
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      @Block 8: I totally agree B8, once again a manager tries a sequence of squad players until they find themselves in the s*** and only then do they call Dunney back into the team. He is our best RB at this time, and it's about time he got a run in the team.

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      • November 30, 2013 at 20:31
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        @glyngo: he states that hanging on was the reason he played five in midfield.

        So what about the other 15-20 games we have has to endure since this tactical master stroke.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 18:34
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    In all fairness when this fixture was coming up I didn’t expect us to go to the Leicester and come away with anything other than 4 or 5-0 scoreline loss with the like of Dyer, Wood and Nugent getting on the score sheet such is the quality of their team. Leicester are fulfilling their potential this season as promotion candidates unlike last season with plenty of quality championship players throughout their squad, financial backing and consistent 20,000+ crowds helping to support and sustain that sort of set up.

    3-0 is less than I predicted but with 30+ shots against us with Celtic bound Forde (maybe) keeping us from complete collapse you would expect as fans along with the Board, Lomas and the players to produce a big big response come Tuesday night and if we draw or lose people will say its because we playing against another promotion favourite in Nottingham Forest equally another massive side with prem resources BUT in the championship there is no easy game, no easy team, we got a great squad not playing to a fraction of their quality.

    You just can’t help but think if we had a much more seasoned experience manager at the helm in the first place he know exactly what to do to get the best out of the team and play to our strengths or it could simply come down to the fact the players not wanting to play for Lomas but nobody truly knows that the case maybe well not yet anyway (Somebody should ask Alan Dunne). Championship football and an inexperience manager was a huge call to make by the board, lets hope it starts to pay off very soon starting Tuesday against Forest.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 18:44
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      @Bexley_Lion:
      I'd love to know what Dunney's done to not even travel. I'm beginning to think it's our style/formation that's letting us down more than the players trying to implement it. (hope that makes sense).
      Lomas is tactically out thought week in week out it seems.

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      • November 30, 2013 at 19:12
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        @Block 8: to be fair his tactics against QPR and Blackpool were spot on, but to often his gets it badly wrong and we get hammered.

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        • November 30, 2013 at 19:40
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          @glyngo: Blackpool could turn out to be the high point of our season! QPR was a scraped draw with a lucky, if well taken, equaliser.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 03:19
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      @Bexley_Lion: I agree with your good post bexley,as people know on this site im a supporter of lomas not because he is lomas, but because he is the manager if that makes sense,the the area where i have been critical of lomas is his lack of decent defenders who can actually defend i have looked at all the goals against us,and imo about %75 of them are down to poor school boy error defending,and to be fair we cant blame lomas for that.As for the calls to recall dunny imo he is not up to the pace of championship football,but i do accept he gives %100,but to have a defender getting sent off twice so far this season that is no good for the team.as brian clough always said to his team "you are no good to me sitting in the stands" so im sorry i have no sympathy for dunny.What i want to know from our defenders is why the big change from last year apart from a few heavy defeats they defended quite well.Is it they cant cope with lomas,s style of play then that has to change,and adapt a style they can cope with what is the answer?.let us know lomas..

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      • December 1, 2013 at 10:54
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        @jim1222: Jim, IMO the tactics being used by SL are exposing the defence particularly in wide areas.

        He is trying to get players supporting the lone striker, and therefore the full backs are urged to push up and create support for the advancing midfielders.

        What that creates is a void defensively on the flanks, which you will note was exploited twice yesterday.

        This in turn exposes and pulls out of position, the centre backs. Hence looking like schoolboy defending.

        The idea I believe is that the holding midfielder(s) are then the cover for the advanced full backs, which hasn't worked.

        This alone is why Malone has looked good this season, because he is able to push on. Defensively, he doesn't look great.

        As is our managers penchant for changing things, I am not surprised that the defence and midfielders are confused.

        Now here is my constructive part, why not switch to 442 playing Malone on the left side of midfield - winger - if you like.

        The downside to this is we need a right winger, some will say Feeney, but IMO not good enough. Perhaps Chaplow or temporarily waghorn could play RW to add to the attack.

        Bailey /Abdiu/moussi and trotter/chaplow would be better in these more familiar central roles.

        That would give us two up front, macdonald and one from Easter or Morison. IMO Morison would profit from having another striker alongside him.

        We can still attempt to play the passing football that he wants us to play.

        However, IMO the manager is stubborn and fails to take responsibility for his actions.

        How many times have you read about "individual errors" and if they are happening why are the team not being made to watch their errors and learn from them.

        The response from SL always seems to be we need more players. Why can't he and his staff make good on what we have.

        We keep hearing that the lads are working hard in training. That means ten til two with an hours lunch.

        Personally I am old school and I would have had the whole team training today ahead of Tuesdays game and I would have made a point of mentioning it to the media so that the fans knew as well. But he can't because he is scared of losing the players more than he has already.

        I have lost confidence in Steve lomas and his managerial style and therefore whatever the cost to the club in the short term, he has to go and be replaced by someone with experience in this league.

        LOMAS OUT

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        • December 1, 2013 at 13:58
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          @bonnie1272:
          Much what I am been saying until even I am fed up with hearing it!

          Except the obvious choice on the right was Henry and I thought Martin showed signs of being quite good as a wide player at this level with Woolford as backup. Also it's no good hoping Chaplow is suddenly going to experience a change of outlook and stop endlessly drifting into the centre and Waghorn won't make a midfielder or winger ever and certainly not before he goes home and/or is sold on to somebody who can afford him

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          • December 1, 2013 at 15:44
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            @The Humble One: agree m8. The suggestion of waghorn or chaplow was very temporary.
            Waggie has virtually been a RW in the current set up anyway.

            Lomas out

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  • November 30, 2013 at 18:35
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    What a mess and certain people on here having a go because we are feeling negative, Can we have some positive feedback from those Lomas platers please.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 19:09
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      @Eightieswall: Just a different opinion we all have,doesn't mean i'm happy with whats happening..........could turn out your wrong,most important, it's not about scoring points from each other.We're all in this sheet together,got to say, can't believe we had only 1 shot on target according to BBC...don't know if thats true ?

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    • December 1, 2013 at 03:32
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      @Eightieswall: well eighties i might be as you put it "a lomas plater"as you put but if you bothered te read some of the platers post properly you will see they do say what they think should be done and put a positive slant on things.but come on you tell us what should be done,not jusf a one liner that lomas should go.so come on enlighten us with your views.Oh and remember before lomas was even thought of,last seaaon we were 9 minutes away from relegation,and if peterboro had not massed up we would be playing in div 1 now, or was that lomas's fault as well.
      so i along with others might be a lomas plater so here is a little feedback for you to read.
      so now to be fair will you enlighten us on what lomas should be doing.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 12:03
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        @jim1222: Resigning thats what he should be doing.

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        • December 2, 2013 at 23:23
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          @Eightieswall: typical one liner from you eighties,look at bonnie 1272 answer to my post thats positive because he gives his reasons for opposing lomas out,but i dont think you are capable of doing a post like his,all you can dois pens basic one liners.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 18:39
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    Well, that makes me feel a whole lot better about todays result.
    Lomas. You are a deluded c***.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 18:42
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    "Their player got behind our midfield and ran straight through." so that's why we need another mid fielder. Did the defence go AWOL and hope Forde would save it. Millwall lose 3-0 and Forde is the man of the match. I am still on the fence re Lomarse but only just. By now he must realise the Scottish league is nothing like Championship. He will probably do very well for Dover Utd, not that I have anything against Dover Utd but they are, I feel on a par with the Scottish teams. Notice he never gets any loans from over the border, where he managed for some time, surely he would have a idea of whats on offer up there, proves my point I think.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 18:45
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      @CavanLion:
      I agree , "behind our midfield". Is that not why he played 5 in the middle and still they tore us to pieces.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 18:44
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    Our goal difference of -15 tells you everything you need to know. We're 21st in the table because we don't score many goals and concede lots. This looks like being another bloody awful season.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 18:45
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    Never expected us to win this game but I also didn't expect us to get such a shoeing - finished 3-0 could have been 12-0! We look a shambles! The delusional fans can say what they want - fact is there is nothing at all positive to take from this week whatsoever!!

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    • November 30, 2013 at 19:06
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      @TheBermondseyBomber: absolutely correct - I don't understand the continual refrain that this is our strongest ever squad - we do not have a single high level Championship defender - Bailey, Martin, Chaplow, Easter etc have all been let go by other clubs - we simply are not going to compete with these teams if you have Abdou and Moussi in the same side - just not enough quality on the ball - you are only as good as what you do on the pitch - reputations count for nothing

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  • November 30, 2013 at 18:59
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    I really do hate the way that you always talk about staying in the game Lomas. It is so negative.,it is very uninspiring and stinks of fear. I personally always want us to be bold rather than cautious whatever the result.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 19:00
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    Why do some people keep going on about being positive what is there to be positive about every game lost is not a close game we get stuffed every time don't think the players can keep being blamed for mistakes got to lie with the way the management is setting up the team .its alright putting an attatcking formation if we're going to score goals but were not so start to build from the back and look for the lucky break to get a goal and shore IP this under performing shambles at the moment

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    • November 30, 2013 at 21:01
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      @davep263: because Dave there are some posters on here that believe we should all be 100% behind this manager.

      However, they are all very quiet tonight surprisingly.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 19:02
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    Instead of forking out more money on loanees and christ knows what, how about spending some money on a decent manager who would know how to capitalise and work with this squad of players.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 19:24
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      @potty1: it will be all change again on Tuesday (as it has to be) waghorn, bailey back - who is left out? because we are never more than 3 games away from a poor performance , most players don't get a run in the team - players like chaplow never seem to be match fit (he is a big disappointment after last year) - - I apply this rule to teams to predict their future : forget what they are called and look at their pattern of results - so forget we are talking about millwall and simply objectively look at the results and performances - it all tells us we just ain't good enough in any department - teams who lose 2 goal leads and collapse when they go 2 down are always at the bottom

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      • November 30, 2013 at 20:18
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        @timchimes: Waghorn has to be on the bench at best, he's gone in two weeks.

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        • November 30, 2013 at 21:07
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          @lion.ie: no -- get 3 good games out of him up with MacDonald - play with some balls and attack - he if gets his own way he might stay or we get another journey man in through the revolving door

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        • December 1, 2013 at 03:40
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          @lion.ie: he wont be on the the bench,he will be playing he did not play because of the terms of his loan,and remember we are always without some of our better players through injury or suspensions.

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          • December 1, 2013 at 10:30
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            @jim1222: Thanks for telling us what we already knew. He won't be playing after Xmas.

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        • December 1, 2013 at 14:36
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          @lion.ie: so play him for the remainder of his loan as he's a good player. What's the point of sticking him on the bench?

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        • December 2, 2013 at 23:26
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          @lion.ie: if as you say im telling you what you already know,why say he has to be on the bench at best.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 19:23
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    Aldo, how far off are you in bringing us the headline......... 'Lomas Sacked/Departs'............ Forget injuries and suspensions, Fans have had enough it is clear this guy is way short of getting it right, it is just not going to happen.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 19:30
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      @Basingstokelion: If this bloke is in charge for the long haul mate we'll be playing away games more local to us, and i mean Wycombe not Reading.

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      • November 30, 2013 at 19:44
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        @Windsor Lion: I was looking at the League One table there earlier with Bristol City sitting second bottom and a shiver went down my spine.

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        • November 30, 2013 at 19:53
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          @lion.ie: that's where we were when jacket took over - it isn't that long ago

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          • November 30, 2013 at 20:03
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            @timchimes: When people were crucifying Jackett and saying 'Jackett Out' toward the end of last season a few of us were saying be careful what you wish for. Believe it or not I still don't necessarily want Lomas out, although I wouldn't shed any tears. Three points from the next two games buy him more time but if that five point gap shrinks I fear for him and he could be gone by Xmas.

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          • December 1, 2013 at 03:42
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            @timchimes: Wasnt far off the bottom when jacket ran out.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 17:01
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        @Windsor Lion: I think like you .when lomas was appointed I wrote to the board questioning their inexperienced candidate,asking why he of all people had been appointed.i never got a personal reply but days later in the paper it explained that mr lomas had great knowledge about millwall and that with his extensive football knowledge in the transfer market and his approach to the game would benefit our club.but I think all the problems start at the top they all are wearing blinkers if they cannot see what is inevitable,that we will be playing in a different league next season.

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        • December 1, 2013 at 20:46
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          @millwallbuilder: Like you I wrote to the club as well reminding them about the time I wrote about the appointment of one Nigel Spackman. Ken Brown at the time actually called me and said he thought that we would finish in the top ten. I never did collect my bet that I won at the end of that season. Told Ambler before a ball was kicked Lomas was the wrong choice, never heard a thing either.

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        • December 2, 2013 at 23:39
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          @millwallbuilder: you help make my point,if people wrote in big numbers showing their concerns the managment would at least know that they have to broach the problem of the fans discontent,but when we have people just abusing lomas ,by calling him abusive names,because he is ginger or was a west ham player a lot of the fans objections or fears are dismissed out of hand.On the subject of the west ham hatred,i dont recall any abuse of harry cripps and his testemonial match which correct me if im wrong was against west ham.the last sentence was not directed at you builder.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 19:29
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    Oh Dear how long now our five point safety gap erodes away --- No one seems to care from JB down --- Any shewd businessman would soon sort this out ------ JB can throw money at this club but nothing is going to change, he's got to have a clearout quick !!!!

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  • November 30, 2013 at 19:37
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    Just to echo what others have said. Losing up there at the moment is not the issue, but THIRTY shots against, can anybody remember seeing that before in a game that was relatively competitive on paper?
    Again, as somebody else has said, under Jackett you wouldn't write us off from bouncing back with a win on Tuesday but this result smacks of players losing faith in the set up and Lomas must be on borrowed time now. Where is our Watford 0 - 3 Yeovil result?
    Lomas needs to ship out the short term loan players and play those here for the long haul through to May, even if that means throwing our youngsters in at the deep end. It didn't do the likes of Steven Reid any harm. Stick with these players and build a proper team and if we can get a couple more PERMANENTS in through January all well and good. We cannot/should not go down in this division, so many poor sides below and around us. The optimists were happy with a scraped three points against Barnsley last week and they were hammered by three at home today by Birmingham and it cost their Manager his job. For all JB's talk, another hammering at home on Tuesday might be the last straw?

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    • December 1, 2013 at 03:47
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      @lion.ie: Trouble is lion if he gets rid of the short term loanees will the remaining plyers stay fit and stop getting sent off.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 19:48
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    Fact - david forde motm and pulled off about six world class saves.
    Fact - we deserved to lose by double figures.
    Fact - mr lomas has to go this week if we are to stay up.
    Fact - we will not win more than one game before christmas.
    I have been to some real p*** poor games over the yrs but none more so than today. I've defended SL even when he hasnt deserved it but, im affraid its now time to spend a small fortune to save our club from the obvious relegation that awaits us come may. The buck simply lays with the manager whose team clearly do not want to play for. Its so obvious he has lost or hugely devided the dressing room.the 550 of us who went today deserve our money back cuase that performance really is not fare to us. There can be no way back for him now we all sang for him to f*** off and i can promise there will be less than 8000 on tuesday with massive calls for his head.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 19:57
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      @lukesmithmfc: Luke, you and the other 549 who went deserve a medal with your refunds. I've had some miserable fkin away days over the years but 30 shots against! You must've thought you were watching an attack v defence training session?

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      • November 30, 2013 at 20:42
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        @lion.ie: lion it was worse than you can ever imagine. Defensively inept. Forget ideas of dunney coming back in hoyte is a better player tbh you can have a couple prem class defenders out there but the rest will continue to put them in the s***. We are dog s*** mate.
        KJ lined us up t be defensive which mad us hard to beat but we have the same set of defenders barring hoyte Lomas bringing in these new players with his style of play have only exposed how s*** our defenders are.
        Malone is very good going forward but has no defensive awareness and woolford leaves him short at every given oportunity and thats where we lost the game today.

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        • November 30, 2013 at 21:09
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          @lukesmithmfc: Hear what you're saying about Dunney, Luke, but he's ours, Hoyte isn't and by the Waghorn standard he's not likely to be.
          The defence will always look exposed in a team playing without direction and confidence and I've seen enough of these players to know they ain't the worst. I said from last season that we were missing a proper centre half and the two year contract for Shittu was a disaster on that score. Yeovil result today is a real worry, if they start winning nobody in the bottom half is safe. Get yerself a few beers mate and drown yer sorrows, well deserved.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 20:41
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      @lukesmithmfc: I hate to say I told you so........

      The bloke is totally inept.

      He talks the talk but can't walk the walk - which I guess is how he got the job.

      Disgrace

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    • December 1, 2013 at 03:54
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      @lukesmithmfc: OK luke who do we get to replace him the only ones available are the ones other clubs dont want,it seems its just a merry go round of bad managers in the championship,as much as it could be lomas's fualt some players have got to take a good hard look at themselves and its no good people saying they cant play for lomas its us they should be playing for after all we pay their b l oody wages.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 11:06
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        @jim1222: for every manager in employment, there will be one out of work looking for a break.

        And as we are always inundated with a long list of very good quality applicants (the clubs words - not mine) I'm sure they will find someone.

        As far as I can remember JB has only appointed SL - sorry if he was here before KJ came, I can't remember - and. As a successful businessman I'm sure JB has learnt form his mistakes.

        Perhaps he can see that it's not all about the talk and not get hoodwinked again.

        However, I don't actually think he will get sacked -- well not before march anyway .

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  • November 30, 2013 at 19:56
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    Ashamed and disgusted with that shower of s*** today.
    Hatefull dishonest bunch of you know what's
    Please get rid of him for the good of our club
    So predictable the one dimentional tit.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 20:05
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      @lukesmithmfc: yes not only one dimensional but he announces his tactics to the media before games - there was nothing to lose there today - why not go 2 up front with attacking wingers and have a go - simplify players' roles and remember basics - those players have to come out and win every challenge against Forest - it is a cup-tie for Lomas

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      • November 30, 2013 at 20:42
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        @timchimes: our attacking winger is at wolves. Another tactical master stroke.

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        • November 30, 2013 at 21:15
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          @bonnie1272: yes - lomas wants modern ball retention tactics but doesn't have the players who can do it - you have to play with players' strengths (and weaknesses) in mind - jacket understood that however old fashioned that is - look where Wolves are (not by luck)

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          • November 30, 2013 at 21:20
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            @timchimes: sooooo bl**dy simple and so bl**dy right

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          • December 2, 2013 at 23:44
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            @timchimes: look where we ended up last year,where was jackets understanding of our players strengths then,and if wood had not played for the period he did we would not be in the championship now.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 04:04
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      @lukesmithmfc: Luke let us as you say get rid of lomas,but what players that are not doing it shall we get rid of as well,or is it that if we get a new manager, the players we have that are not championship class,are they all of a sudden going to become superstars ,i dont think so.Its about time these players looked in the mirror,realise how lucky the are and start to earn their wages that we are paying.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 11:10
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        @jim1222: well Palace look a lot better than they did three weeks ago and TP has only had the job a week.

        The reason is that players who had no chance of playing under a certain manager see a new guy come in and try to impress him.

        You must have seen that loads Jim?

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  • November 30, 2013 at 20:06
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    We are conceding a lot of "very very poor goals" under lomas. Let's get rid of this vermin s******* ASAP.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 04:12
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      @benzo: benzo its not lomas making the schoolboy errors its the players,remember lomas set up the teams that beat blackpool, leeds,charlton and barnsley,drew with brighton qpr,burnley three good draws in my opinion,i think the players should be telling us why they have played well in those games,then get humiliated in the other games its not all lomas fault the players have got a lot to answer for as well.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 11:32
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        @jim1222: charlton - as bad as us, ask an anorak .
        Barnsley - worse than us - just
        Blackpool - never turned up, they were poor.
        Leeds - even my nan can get us up for them
        Brighton - we always draw with them, could be there formation suited ours.
        Burnley - they were top of the league when they arrived and we played above ourselves.
        QPR - interesting one. The passes us of the park and we played well to be fair. However, only when we pushed 4 up in the dying embers of the game did we break up their passing game and they had no idea how to react. Hence the late goal.

        I've answered your now you answer mine as constructively as you can:

        Yeovil, Huddersfield, Ipswich and Bolton

        And in particular, derby, Bournemouth, Birmingham and Leicester.

        What happened to our great team and tactical genius of a manager then?

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        • December 1, 2013 at 13:08
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          @bonnie1272: Blackpool is seeming increasingly like a fluke result.

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        • December 3, 2013 at 00:02
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          @bonnie1272: AS i have said in previous post,s a lot of schoolboy errors and rank bad defending,take shittu how many times have you seen him get his feet off the ground and head the ball,jimmy ab still cant control the ball or make a pass more tha 4 yard.,Collectivly the amount of red cards that should not have happened.lowry own goals burnleys one he should have just let the ball go as no burnley was behind him.i could go on and on but the point is the defense is inadequate and believe or not ,i do critisise lomas for that,but mostly those defenders need to put more effort in.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 20:09
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    What's the length of Lomas's contract?

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  • November 30, 2013 at 20:16
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    'the lad Dyer - I played with him at QPR so I know what he is all about' - you knew enough about him to keep him off the score sheet for 12 minutes.

    Before the game: "I don't ever go into a game looking for a point - I don't like that approach,"
    After the game today: 'We wanted to hang in there and that's why we went one up front with five in midfield and we started okay.'

    Do yourself a favour and keep it shut before Tuesday Steve.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 20:58
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      @lion.ie: too much talk and not enough thought!

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  • November 30, 2013 at 20:26
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    You know what I've written all the ginger and west ham posts, but I still stand by my convictions unlike some (no I didn't expect a result today) if jackett had the support that lomas had I would be more confident. Ps last week I got slaughtered for saying we may get relegated on goal difference - we're are they now??

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    • November 30, 2013 at 23:23
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      This is fu@king serious guys we have a problem here aa listen and mark my words

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    • December 1, 2013 at 04:26
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      @mfcmike: Dont be so concieted to think others wont stand for their convictions mike because the ginger and west ham posts that you wrote are nothing to be proud of they just show a childish attitude IMO. i will stand by mine,and if you bother to read some of the lomas supporters post at least they say what they think should be done.unlike many of the anti lomas posts that are just glib one liners so i say to you as i said to a previouse post enlighten us all with what tactics you would use,and what players you think are worthy of playing in the championship,so be the manager and let us know what you would do,also who would you replace lomas with.oh and as far as jacket is concerned look where he left when he ran out.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 08:05
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        @jim1222: you have point as regards to your view on jacket, however a couple of half decent games against the big boys is no promising signs even you must agree with that. Upshot is we will finish with less points this year then we did last year and we all know how hard that was don't we.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 10:33
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        @jim1222: Jackett left us in the Championship

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        • December 2, 2013 at 23:49
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          @lion.ie: we are still in the championship

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  • November 30, 2013 at 20:51
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    Forde; Dunne; Beevers; Robbo; Malone; Keogh; Woolford; Abdou; Chaplow; McDonald, Morison, Easter, Bailey, Lowry, Feeney, Martin, Smith, Bender, Siafa, Onyedinma, Trotter (when fit again). That's your squad now find an eleven.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 20:52
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      @lion.ie: Or rather, ten to play in front of Forde

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  • November 30, 2013 at 20:54
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    I have just witnessed one if the worst performances from a Millwall team and it is time for Lomas to open his eyes and see what is going on. We got hit 3 times by there counter attacks before they scored and he did nothing to change his tactic of having one player back on the halfway line and pushing everyone into the box. Oh and then they score the second goal on a counter attack. The midfield were not existent, the back four looked like they had never played together and we could still be out there now and we still wouldn't get a shot on target. I was a believer in giving Lomas a chance but after today it is clear that he is out of his depth and he needs to step down.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 21:29
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      @Davey: with one up and not a very fast or strong one at that, our play unfold too slowly and it is too easy to defend against - we don't have midfielders who can ghost or burst into space around the box and provide shots so the formation just cannot work - coupled with defenders who struggle to distribute the ball the oppo can just sit back and pick up our midfielders and we can't penetrate - at what point does Lomas learn that - it strikes me that the players are not enjoying being on the pitch - they seem frustrated

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      • December 1, 2013 at 04:30
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        @timchimes: we do have one mid fielder that can do as you say ,but he has been injured most of the season trotter

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      • December 1, 2013 at 09:57
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        @timchimes: Totally agree, all the other teams in the division must be looking forward to playing us at the moment. Hope we get a result on Tuesday but can't see it happening.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 21:01
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    Oh dear More B...S*** I thought we could hang in what we hanging onto while creating nothing time for taxi for Lomas and you can hang onto your case you Numpty

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  • November 30, 2013 at 21:11
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    Is it time to tap Uwe Rosler up ? see if he fancies a challenge , keeping us in Championship.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 21:47
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      @Block 8: Is Alex Rae bored with making Ince look good yet?

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      • November 30, 2013 at 22:19
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        @lion.ie: that is a serious point - we know Ince is a very limited individual - Blackpool's success has to have something to do with Rae

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    • December 1, 2013 at 04:31
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      @Block 8: can we afford him block

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    • December 1, 2013 at 09:24
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      @Block 8: This is the guy I wanted in the first place.Always comes across as a Manager who talks sense and I get the feeling a Manager who players want to PLAY for.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 21:20
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    Maybe a boycott in the next 2 home games might grab JB Attention enough is enough

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    • December 1, 2013 at 09:26
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      @southstand: You will not need a boycott,as there will be f**K all there in the first place.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 21:29
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    Hate to say i told ya so! Everyone on my back saying in negative but i was right. And I'm not glad that i am either a lot of ya need to face the f****** facts . He needs to go he ain't the right man we have a top 10 side in the bottom 4 i have gave him a fair chance but times up F OFF Lomas and while in here we're gonna lose 3-2 Tuesday against forest. I wont be going to anymore games while that p**** is in charge . Coz all the time you're all going it keeps him in a job , time to unite and push him out as we have 3 weeks left before its too late .

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    • November 30, 2013 at 22:01
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      @steveomfc5: really! we are gonna score twice - how? - who?

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      • November 30, 2013 at 23:47
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        @timchimes: McDonald and bailey but we will still definitely lose and it will probably be for the best . At least it will mean one step closer to getting rid of that useless ginger c***

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      • November 30, 2013 at 23:36
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        @southstand: so what you are saying is you want us to lose so Lomas gets the boot - because if we win he won't get the sack and you won't be attending -

        as I say below, I think it is ultimately counter-productive not to go - it is a dilemma for sure, but one day Lomas will be gone - guaranteed - you are better going to matches and telling him what you think - one characteristic of Wall fans is mental resilience and attending doesn't have to be seen as supporting Lomas - he won't interfere with my customs/plans

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        • December 1, 2013 at 00:53
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          @timchimes: No I'm not saying I want to lose the writing on the wall and JB needs to know how the fans feel the only way is for him to see the gates are down Lomas is a joke and I guess the players know this
          So if JB see revenue is down he will soon respond accordingly or do you want to see us in league 1 Think about it
          it's not rocket science it's a no brainer

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      • November 30, 2013 at 23:51
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        @southstand: only way to do it mate all the time we're going it keeps bringing money in for berlyson and he will be happy as long as that keeps happening . He's mad it crystal he don't give a f*** about us , feeling mutual .

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  • November 30, 2013 at 22:06
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    The only positive thing I can think of to say is Barnsley, Sheffield Wednesday and Yeovil. Lomas out. Wakep up Lions, he's so far out of his league it's painful to watch

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  • November 30, 2013 at 22:12
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    I can only remember one previous manager as bad as this one and that was Peter Anderson,who too had a lot to say but no experience at all and it took i think a 6-0 home defeat for him to get the bullet.
    I just don't think SL has the respect of the players and I cannot see Millwall keeping the likes of Trotter if he remains. If the board arer serious about the future of our club they must take action before it is too late. I can never demand the sacking of anyone (except Osborne and Cameron!) but the club is bigger than SL and they must put its future first and appoint an experienced and ambitious manager very soon.

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    • November 30, 2013 at 22:33
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      @Peckhamlad: I am in total agreement - the club comes first -- we need fans to show up not boycott games - that is the easy way out - at some point a future manger needs money

      I think some people want it all ways . They say Lomas is useless (I don't rate his management) and use that as an excuse not to attend almost as if results will start to pick up if we all start attending again - The point is, if as people say Lomas isn't up to it, then by definition results won't pick up, so why not attend - it is our club not his. Pompey got 13,000 last week in Div 2 - what if we were that bad?

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    • December 1, 2013 at 01:14
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      @Peckhamlad:
      Thats harsh on Peter Anderson yes he was s**** but he did not have anywhere near the funds that Lomas has had.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 10:48
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        @wappinglion: Afraid he did have a lot more money than Anderson, what he did not have is the respect of the players.

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        • December 1, 2013 at 10:50
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          @Peckhamlad: sorry just woke up meant Anderson did have more money than Lomas.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 04:33
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      @Peckhamlad: who should they appoint as manager

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      • December 1, 2013 at 10:52
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        @jim1222: I would love an ex-millwall legend as manager but I doubt if any of them would care for the job even if they were interested.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 11:35
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        @jim1222: my pet cat couldn't do any worse

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      • December 1, 2013 at 18:53
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        @jim1222:
        I saw Dave Kemp sitting in the stands yesterday at the Nigels game. He was Pulis's assistant at Stoke and various other jobs. I assume Pulis is working with the Nigels backroom staff at the moment. I'm quite sure Bob Pearson knows him because of their past connections, so i would ask Bob first. We have the players, Kemp has experience. I feel it would be a good move until the end of the season at least. I know Stoke's football isn't one for the purists but it set up a hell of a foundation, but like i say i'd ask Bob first.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 22:38
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    Lomas is talking like we played Barcelona we played Leicester City from the championship fair enough they have good players and have a bigger budget than millwall but were in the same league should not be getting rolled over with such ease we prob have best squad with had since I can remember and Leicester have basically the same squad from last season yet we beat them home and away last year Kenny jacket may not play best looking football but at least he gets results this season I've heard so many excuses and so much crap come from lomas it's time for him to go he is out of his depth big time we need a PROPER manager not an ex west ham captain

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    • December 1, 2013 at 04:34
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      @MFC DAN90: how about his results last season oh and he ran out on us

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      • December 1, 2013 at 12:18
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        @jim1222: Tells us what kj did before he left,where were we when kj took over? do you not remember the 2 wembley visits getting promoted and narrowly missing out on the play offs?. Jackett went stale at the end, it happens at a lot of clubs especially when there is no money flying about. If kj had the current squad of players and the financial backing that lomas has been given i believe we would be a top eight team.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 23:20
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    Steve Morison is useless by the way. How he and Keogh (thought he'd been abducted by aliens) are ahead of Easter is a joke. Pick people who want to play for us you useless ginger bellend.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 04:40
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      @harryfabian: I could not agree more harry.
      harry a personal question i came from the old kent road and i was mates with a family called fabian,the boys names were ,billy tommy harry bobby and my pal was joe ,we lived in mawbey house are they any relation to you

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      • December 1, 2013 at 10:59
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        @jim1222: Half a football team there Jim,are they any good ?

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        • December 3, 2013 at 00:10
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          @shoot ffs: LOL they could throw some good right handers but football no way.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 15:14
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        @jim1222: Well my grandfather's name is Harry as well and he used to live on the Old Kent Road. I'll check if he has 4/5 brothers haha.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 10:29
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      @harryfabian: Interesting point about Easter, but I think you have to play two up front to get the best out of him, his best attributes are his running into channels and off the ball positioning, so yku need to give him a partner to feed off.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 10:47
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      @harryfabian: I agree Easter has to play before he too wants to leave, how can Morison be favoured in front of the one player who grafts, wants to play and knows where the back of the net is? If we lose Tuesday Lomas has to go.

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  • November 30, 2013 at 23:24
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    This is fu@king serious guys we have a problem here aa listen and mark my words

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  • November 30, 2013 at 23:46
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    Where are the so called Millwall type players that were promised ?
    Who will fight & have pride to be at our club ?
    That's what we were told.
    We will make Millwall a fortress and get the supporters so involved that opposing teams will be scared to come.
    Why does the so called fan on the board not speak up ????????
    We as a club are now in such a mess that the supporters are divided !
    We can't even create an atmosphere at our home ground (only when leeds come to us) and that's only because they bring an atmosphere with them.
    I have never been so bored coming to Millwall, It is now becoming a chore.
    I have two sons who have followed a family tradition supporting Millwall, and even they have said it is s*** supporting Millwall !!!!!
    We are season ticket holders and have been for many many seasons and for the first time I feel we have been ripped off !!!!
    How do Millwall expect to entice and keep support watching this absolute boring s*** !!!!!

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    • December 1, 2013 at 09:38
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      @RSRSE14: Well said,that just about sums up the situation.The game last week against Barnsley was dire.Barnsley have sacked Flitcroft,so at least their Board can see what garbage they was producing.
      OVER TO YOU J.B.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 03:22
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    I've said it on here before, and I'll say it again. 4-4-2 ! Simple football, no f****** about. Mix it up. Attack as a team defend as a team. 2 quick wingers, 1 battler next to one attacking midfielder in the middle, and 1 big c*** and 1 small c*** up front. Old school it may be, but when you don't have a manager or players capable of playing anything too adventurous, it has to be done.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 04:45
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      @82wall: I have some support for what you say,but i want to add some thing,HOW ABOUT SOME DEFENDERS THAT CAN DEFEND.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 08:27
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        @jim1222:
        That would also help our cause yes.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 19:18
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      @82wall: @82wall:
      I agree with you 82 wall. I get fed up keep hearing about ball retention these days. If we were to retain the ball we wouldn't know what to do with the f****** thing. Your suggestion, produces a more adrenallin spirited approach which lifts crowds, making them the 12th man we hear so much about, and scares the s*** out of the opposition. Oh, and when we lose the ball, win the b****** thing back. This is the Championship, not the Champions League.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 10:02
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    I was never one for a quick change of manager, but I think he has to go. We were absolutely smashed yesterday, so he obviously isn't get the right response from the players. They can't be as bad as they have been playing, so it has to do with the system or lack of confidence. Either way, the Manager is where the problem sits. Also, with Forde's performance, he will defo be on his way.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 10:20
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    Title should read, Millwall boss: We were s***.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 10:40
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    What worries me is this... Some of us get our wish and Lomas is gone by Christmas.
    We have no immediate replacement.
    Harris steps up , he's thrown in the deep end and we begin to sink.
    New manager appointed by mid Feb.
    We go down anyway...................
    Harris and current backroom staff move on
    We're rebuilding yet again in a very tough League one

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  • December 1, 2013 at 10:54
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    Oh how I wish we had a Cripps, Kitchener, Briley, Hurlock, Weller, Possee even Cascarino and Sheringham will do. While we are at it lets bring back George Graham he would sort the defence out. That list of players had passion and heart for the shirt.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 10:58
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    Have read the 100 odd comments on this thread and agree that Lomas has to go. When he signed players like Bailey, Chaplow and McDonald in the Summer we all thought this was going to be our season. He then brought in Harris to the coaching staff and Harford turned down a job at Newcastle to stay with us and things looked even better. Instead the club is now a complete shambles. Because Lomas doesn't like wingers Henry is now at Wolves and will sign permanently for them in January. Forde and Trotter are unlikely to sign new contracts so unless JB brings in a new Manager before Xmas to try to sort out this mess we are certain to be relegated. I am sure Rae would welcome the chance to manage his old club and could be the right person to bring out the best of the players if it isn't already too late. Failing that Holloway is out of work and might like a new challenge. He could bring in Kevin Phillips as his Assistant Manager. Or Uwe Rosler has been mentioned. Any one of these 3 could do a better job than Lomas. BUT IT HAS GOT TO BE NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE TO SAVE OUR SEASON!!!!

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    • December 1, 2013 at 11:13
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      @denslions:
      I could see Tony Adams being linked with the job. He's had little success as a manager I know but would see us a challenge. He would be on our terms as he's not established in the role.
      Would be interesting

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  • December 1, 2013 at 11:04
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    On a lighter note.....i defrosted the fridge last night......wife calls it foreplay

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  • December 1, 2013 at 11:13
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    The picture tells a thousand words but probably not what we all wanna hear - "let me go!"

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  • December 1, 2013 at 11:20
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    30 shots at goal- We do not have that many in about 10 games.
    31 players used - the most in the Championship.I know this is because of injuries/suspensions,but does SL know his best 11?
    I said before yesterdays game that playing just 1 upfront and trying to flood midfield was defensive and gives the opposition licence to attack you.
    All in all a SHAMBLES and will end up in relegation if things do not change.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 13:01
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    The players are being moved around like chess pieces. The system and formation don't work whoever is playing. The players are not responding. Could have been a cricket score Yesterday.
    Over to you Berylson. Personally, I'm expecting an announcement after the game on Tuesday night.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 13:05
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      @NICKOLA: bring in Alex rae and have Neil Harris as number 2 but i cant see berlyson and ambler back tracking now . To stubborn and to stupid , i hope we don't do to forest what we done to Blackpool and save that mug again . Id rather lose and get rid asap

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      • December 1, 2013 at 13:18
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        @steveomfc5: Rae and Harris will not come near getting the job IMO. Much more likely to be a manager with sound experience at this level - Ian Holloway.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 13:19
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      @NICKOLA: Nickola is was wondering where you were, you are bang on with your statement but i fear jb wont get rid of lomas until its to late.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 13:37
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    Ian Holloway has been mentioned.Could he really do any WORSE than SL? He would be entertaining and say things as they are.Not keep making excuses.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 16:24
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    I really hope this leads to a new look side on Tuesday night and possibly a change in formation. Lomas has nothing to lose, he must know he's not in many fans good books. In my opinion, I'm hoping for a 4-4-2. Finally put Chaplow in the middle, bring back Dunne, give Martin a chance to prove himself with a start and finally give McDonald a rest and play Morison and Keogh up top. Both looked lively together in Pre Season...

    Forde
    Dunne Beevers Robbo Malone
    Feeney Chaplow Moussi Martin
    Morison Keogh

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    • December 1, 2013 at 16:37
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      @@DanRegan95: Please leave out Morison, he has not got a goal in him at moment, Easter to start with Mcdonald.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 16:53
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        @Peckhamlad: I personally wouldn't play both Easter and McDonald together in a 4-4-2. Would rather have strikers that are better in the air so the wide players can deliver meaningful crosses.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 16:40
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      @@DanRegan95: The midfield looks weak to me and personally I would never have Feeney in a Millwall team. Bailey is back I'm sure so would start with him. I do think that Martin will start and McDonald will be one of two up front in a game that quite simply, Lomas has to win.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 16:44
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    this is my take on things , been to most games and sat back and watched lomas comments over the last month,
    1. to many loan players , feel sorry for dunn ,
    2 . got no number 2 , lurch is to busy watching other games,
    3 fenney was a total laughing stock , he should off been allowed to stay at bolton , his head aint with us
    4 waghorn out of position , we need morrison to play cant do any worse ,
    5 to start with 2 cmthe same jimmy and muossie is silly

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    • December 1, 2013 at 19:31
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      @munson68:
      Harford will do a great job as soon as he can find the f****** cranking handle for the computer.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 17:41
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    team for tuesday
    forde,dunne beevers robbo malone, martin bailey chaplow feeney easter mcdonald

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    • December 1, 2013 at 17:49
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      @Eightieswall:
      Forde
      Hoyte Robinson Beevers Malone
      Bailey Moussi Chaplow Martin
      McDonald Morison
      That might not ne the best team but the one I think he'll play

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  • December 1, 2013 at 18:29
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    Flitcroft and now Jones given the elbow.
    Who is next I wonder?

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    • December 1, 2013 at 19:17
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      @NICKOLA: I said last Saturday that I watched 3 p**s poor teams.Barnsley,Millwall & Sheff Wed.Two of these Clubs have acted to change situation.Again over to you JB.

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      • December 1, 2013 at 19:27
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        @Longfield Lion: Yes, and the problem is we all know what usually happens to teams when a new manager gets onboard. They start winning and that gap between us and them will disappear like a fart in the wind.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 19:59
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    I would love to know how much time JB is planning on giving Lomas, because a few good replacements have been mentioned and me personally would love to see Rae at the helm barking his orders. I know for a fact he'd get their a*** in gear.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 20:26
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      Alex Rae.... The boozers down the OKR will be happy!

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      • December 1, 2013 at 21:30
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        @tallchap18: he wont have much choice this time around.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 20:11
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    Anyone got Martin Jol's phone number ?

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  • December 1, 2013 at 20:24
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    I personally don't think this is quite the worst team we have had but it is far from the best. SL has got to go as he can't decide on tactics, the starting eleven or even what the right excuse is for another poor performance. I want rid of SL but I just don't know who we could get to replace him. He has had 17 games and proved he is not up to the job so ....and it pains me to say this.... I hope we loose the next couple of games so that it forces him out. We can then get some one in who picks a team, picks a style of play and sticks with it.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 22:14
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    Get you coat, Lomas. You've got the best squad Millwall has ever had at your disposal (apart from the back four) and you haven't got a clue what to do with them.

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    • December 1, 2013 at 22:25
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      @junkmale: This certainly not the best squad Millwall have ever had ..by a mile. What about the promotion winning side to the old 1st division of Sheringham, Cascarino, Mcleary, Hurlock and so forth? What about tje team with Tim Cahill, Robbie Ryan,Steve Claridge, Steve Reid and others? Sorry this squad does not match up to them.

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  • December 1, 2013 at 22:32
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    Holloway.

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  • December 2, 2013 at 08:07
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    Sorry, we need to buy some good defenders, Robo not up to it anymore, Beevers and Malone are good enough but the rest? Sorry 1st devision at best!!!!!

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    • December 3, 2013 at 00:18
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      @leemark: My sentiments as well.

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  • December 2, 2013 at 09:53
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    Its Monday morning and am still seething that 3 managers have lost there jobs over the weekend and Lomas is not one of them

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  • December 2, 2013 at 10:12
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    Dave Whelan at Wigan sticks by Managers.But supporters were not happy with Coyle so he acted.Again over to you JB,

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  • December 2, 2013 at 14:37
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    Must be something very bad at Wigan, bit like whats happening at The Den, but at least Whelan makes a positive decision. I presume it will cost a few quid to get rid of SL, but not as much as we will lose if we get relegated. I don't think Harris is the asnwer as he is on the coaching team at the moment, so my pick is Holloway and whoever he wants to bring in as assistant.My team tomorrow:
    Forde
    Hoyte Beevers Robinson Malone
    Martin Bailey Moussi Chaplow
    Waghorn Easter

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