Report: Bournemouth 5-2 Millwall

MILLWALL conceded five goals in a match for the second time this season as they capitulated in spectacular fashion against Bournemouth.

Early goals from Martyn Waghorn and Liam Trotter had given the Lions a dream start but they were punished for attempting to defend their lead by an astonishing Cherries fightback.

Ryan Fraser started it off by making it 2-1 before the break before Steve Cook headed in to equalise.



Harry Arter put Bournemouth ahead for the first with a well-taken goal from the edge of the area and ex-Millwall frontman Lewis Grabban added a fourth from the spot after Alan Dunne handled – and was then sent off.

A sorry afternoon was complete when Brett Pittman scored another penalty in stoppage time.

Steve Lomas made three changes to the side that started against Birmingham in midweek, with Karleigh Osborne, Shaun Derry and Lee Martin coming in for Danny Shittu, Nicky Bailey and Steve Morison.



Freshening the team up certainly had the desired effect for Lomas, as the Lions raced into a two-goal lead within the opening ten minutes.

First, Liam Trotter played the ball into the feet of Waghorn, who, from a tight angle, buried his shot under goalkeeper Stephen Henderson.

On the next attack, Waghorn turned provider for Trotter and the midfielder executed a delightful chip over Henderson from eight yards to make it 2-0.

At this point those who had backed the Lions before the game with bwin sports looked like they would be in for a definite return on their stake.

In the 26th minute, Martin cut inside from the right flank and drilled towards the far corner, but his shot whistled agonisingly wide.

Grabban had the Cherries' first effort on goal with a shot that stung the palms of Forde, and Tokelo Rantie drilled into the side netting shortly afterwards as the home side worked their way back into the game.

And two minutes before half time, Bournemouth pulled one back through Fraser's neat finish into the far corner from 20 yards.

Eddie Howe's men carried that momentum through half time and drew level in the 50th minute when Steve Cook rose unmarked in the area to head in a corner.

Having been 2-0 up and seemingly cruising, Millwall incredibly found themselves behind when Harry Arter swept in from the edge of the area to score Bournemouth's third goal in 12 minutes.

The Lions were then reduced to ten men when Alan Dunne, harshly booked in the first half, was shown a second yellow card for a handball inside the area.

Grabban converted from the penalty spot to put the Cherries 4-2 up and leave Lomas wondering just how his side had collapsed so feebly.

The rest of the game was effectively a non-event, but that did not stop Bournemouth adding a fifth through Pitman after substitute Paul Connolly's trip in the area in stoppage time.

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159 thoughts on “Report: Bournemouth 5-2 Millwall

  • October 5, 2013 at 17:03
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    i think JB should apologize to the fans for getting it so wrong

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    • October 5, 2013 at 17:30
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      @willownix:
      Lets not forget Andy and the rest of the board.
      Its all getting a bit awkward and embarrassing as the season drags on.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:06
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    Absolute capitulation. Same old Dunne (S***). Terrible defending (again). Lomas in/out I'm undecided but even when we were on our terrible run last year we weren't shipping goals like this. Appalling.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:09
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    Tony Pulis please or someone like that

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    • October 5, 2013 at 17:15
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      @willownix: So you want to go back to lump it up football again, well he's your man, goodluck.

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      • October 5, 2013 at 17:17
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        @Sealion: Well said, we have a squad for good football not the kind of dross Pulis and his ilk serve up.

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      • October 5, 2013 at 17:17
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        @Sealion: he got to be better then what we f**king got now

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:13
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    F ing disgrace, no doubt the excuse will be the sending off but get real, 2 up still get stuffed,
    9 goals in two games, no more excuses please.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:14
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    A disgrace, no doubt the excuse will be the sending off but get real, 2 up still get stuffed,
    9 goals in two games, no more excuses please.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:19
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    losing 4-0 and 5-2 in 4 days to a couple of poor sides is the final straw, why did i dare believe lomas had turned it round, Leeds and Charlton were both woeful and sure enough we couldnt build on it, we have become a f***** laughing stock, dinosaurs like Dunne getting sent off time and time again when will Lomas learn, his failure to sort out the defence is the main reason he has to be sacked, we have let in 5 goals twice now by 5th october and 4 once, we have become a joke, and starting Derry out of nowhere was a disgraceful decision with the midfielders we have at club, Feeney man of match for Bolton today , our only player with any pace shipped out when we have none, every Millwall fan i know said the minute they made it 1-2 that we were certain to lose, why did everyone know this would happen, same old millwall letting us down, JB and board should be ashamed off there appointment of Lomas, F*** OFF BACK TO THE VERMIN NOW !!! LOMAS OUT

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:20
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    The amount of goals that we concede when losing is appalling, 2-0 up away from home, they should have carried on attacking rather sitting back on a early lead........Can't believe this result

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:20
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    How can he say the sending off changed the game when we had already given away a two goal lead and were 3-2 down. An absolute disgraceful performance. Wheres the wall spirit in this team. Weve shipped far too many goals this season and 9 in two games.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:20
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    Enough excuses not good enough lomas you have no idea please now just f##k off this squad should be doing alot better

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:23
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    That sounded poor glad I wernt there, thought we were going to be a solid force, I eat my words. No a...hole in the team

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:23
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    F*** off Dunne, you're a f****** liability. Lomas, you can f*** off too. You've the players but haven't a clue how to manage them. Out of your depth.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:24
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    What hurts is that Birmingham lost at home to Bolton today! Tells you something about where we are. There can be no doubt there is something very wrong, I am feeling gutted once more this week. I could not make out why he brought Derry back in the team at all, but we all have opinions. Morale in the team must be very low.

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    • October 5, 2013 at 18:58
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      @Peckhamlad: Brum probably made the same mistake as we did against Brum (complacency, as they had rolled us over and now they were playing a lower placed side) and Bolton probably learnt from our mistake of sitting back and not getting at them. I think this was not the surprise result it seemed. Bolton are a biggish club and ex prem side so someone was going to cop it, they are not Barnsley.
      Feeney didn't do us any favours though.

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      • October 5, 2013 at 20:45
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        @Sealion: Saw Feeney in the car park at Bournemouth today, was talking to Robbo and Trotter.

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        • October 5, 2013 at 22:17
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          @jamesmartinmfc: you liar he was playing for Bolton in Birmingham ....t***

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          • October 7, 2013 at 20:33
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            @Lincolnshire Lion: Not a lie, he was chatting to them after the game and had pictures with some kids. Im not that sad that I would make it up, as it is slightly irrelevant to the game I suppose isn't it. We came out of the ground late as we had a drink after the game, thats when I saw them and noticed Feeney last because I spotted a white Bolton hoodie he was wearing! 🙂

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:24
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    I didn't see that result coming regardless of typical bias ref but where do we go from here? Far to many goals shipped in this season and no fight in the team. Does lomas now go and we get someone with actual championship experience? Play ball on the floor + champ experience = Gus Poyet. Get him in before the up and coming break. Swift changes needed by the board at playing staff level ASAP.

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    • October 5, 2013 at 17:42
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      @Bexley_Lion: He would not come here, 1) We could not afford him.
      2) We have not got the funds he would want, that is one of the reasons he left Brighton.
      3) Just because a manager does not have a job at the moment what makes you think they are that desperate that they would want to come to our tin pot little club, its hardly a career advancement is it ?

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:24
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    Nigel clough in? At least he would have some tactical knowledge..

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:25
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    What the fuc£ happened there couldnt make it today just about got on lions live after 1/2 hour in 2 0 up happy days then 2 1 & the commontators saying we need to change shape ,,,2 2 ,,, now we need to change ,,,,, 3 2 ,,, FFS change ...?????? Too f*****£ late 5 2 ,,,,,,PLEASE EXPLAIN ??????????

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:26
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    That game was abysmal, we shouldn't be conceding that amount of goals. As for Lomas I will give him three more games till I've decided if he should be sacked or not, personally I think we should go after the Swindon manager as he has the team playing some quality football. The manager is the key to success, if anything JB should have bought a better manager and less players.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:27
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    Utterly perplexing result. We seem so mentally p*** weak. No confidence whatsoever, once a goal is conceded. I think JB has an eventful fortnight ahead of him. This crippling performance was implemented by a tactically inept big mouth with an inability to take any responsibility for bad results. I think (as was with Di Canio at Sunderland) it was always going to be either a roaring success or an embarrassing disaster. Either way something has to at least change with the defense and fast or this is a dead cert relegation season.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:28
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    Missed the first 35 minutes because of 'Player'problems. Found we were 2-0 up! Then WTF?
    'Player' said there were 1378 Millwall there, out of 9300+.
    The tide has not turned. The bloke on 'Player' said that it was a 'desperately, desperately, depressing afternoon on the south coast'.
    Next QPR, who are having a good season.
    How did the travelling Millwall react?
    PS - Why is there no half-time 'blether' as my dad called it, on 'Player'?

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:29
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    Go now Lomas. Enough said.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:30
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    Dropping Moro and Bailey???? WTF is he thinking? I know he wanted to shake it up a bit but dropping two of our best performers so far rhis season! Losing my faith rapidly and beginning to think the murmerings about Lomas not having a clue are true! Sort it Lomas or do the honourable thing and stand down!

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    • October 5, 2013 at 18:33
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      @kempo_123: morro deserved dropping as he had reverted to his bad old form.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:30
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    to lose like this after being 2 up really is dreadfull, 9 conceded in 2 games says it all, something seriously wrong and we will be back in the bottom three if this is not sorted quickly. We have got some decent players and played well agaianst blackpool, charlton and leeds, i can take losing but not like this. Sounds like Henry had s blinder for Wolves which tells you all you need to know about his effort for us!

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    • October 5, 2013 at 17:32
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      @macman: So did Feeney for Bolton!

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      • October 6, 2013 at 14:49
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        @kempo_123:
        And for most of last week people were saying they were glad to see the back of both of them!

        I thought Feensy a reasonable right-winger at this level and Henry rather better than that. But the thing is that Lomas hasn't selected anybody to play wide midfield at all - prefering a 4-3-3.

        That's all very well if you have dependable full backs able to get forward and provide width whilst also doing without quite the same cover as they can expect from 4-4-2. But expecting poor old Dunne to cope when we all know fine well he lacks ability going forward, is short on pace and tends to get drawn inside at the drop of a hat is ludicrous! The bloke will run his heart out and tackle all day but that simply isn't good enough with this formation.

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    • October 5, 2013 at 17:34
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      @macman: 9 goals and a missed penalty

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    • October 5, 2013 at 17:53
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      @macman: Henry got three assists and MOM - typical.

      Everyone talks about the great squad we have, but I don't see it yet. I'm sure Lomas will make noises about more loans needed, but just throwing more & more other unwanted Championship players at the problem isn't working. If we can't bring in footballers of a superior quality or with a hunger to progress, then the manager needs to start concentrating on getting the very best out of the players at his disposal.

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      • October 5, 2013 at 18:20
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        @Micky Lions: Maybe playing for a big fish (Wolves) in a small pond (Div 1 )suits him. He was found out too easily in the championship.
        Now Feeney did it against championship opposition, the same opposition that stuffed us.

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    • October 5, 2013 at 19:24
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      @macman: Its not a new phenomena, we were 3-0 up against Brum at home last season until they scored a minute from half time and we were lucky to scrape a draw.
      If you look at the results from the last few seasons we usually lost against the lower sides and beat the ones we should have lost to, although I am not that confident of beating the tougher teams this season.
      But early days yet we have to get behind our club, manager and team and tough it out.
      My biggest fears are what will happen when the loanees go back because if we are getting beat like this now what will happen then ?
      Not wanting to be unfair but at the moment I am not too fussed about Morro (the jury is still out) but would love to sign Waggy if poss.
      We need a target man with some physical presence, that is why Woodsy and Hendo were so effective, defenders would s*** them selves with those two coming at them.
      Without the long ball game which is easy to deal with we are a bit ponderous in the build ups, we need an injection of pace and we still do not attack in numbers so we are fairly easy to read and thus deal with.

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      • October 5, 2013 at 20:34
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        @Sealion: yes mate seen it all before and knew it was coming when they scored just before half time, SL has got to get a performance out of em against QPR even if they beat us. for me still not sure about him but if we get someone else in we will have the old he needs time to sort things out all over again and before you know it its January and your in the bottom three! big dissapointment for me, Morro never really been a fan because he's lazy and he does'nt look like he's changed, easter looks poor, keogh not bad footballer but cant hit a barn door! got to keep the faith.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:32
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    Time to go Lomas and take Dunne with you.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:33
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    4 goals in 16 minutes p*** poor.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:34
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    Time for JB to bite the bullet and realise lomas talked a good game and pulled the wool over his eyes with experience from a terrible Scottish league.

    We have two weeks now to sort things out get someone new in. If this carries on til Xmas we are well and truly screwed.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:38
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    go

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:44
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    A s*** week is now behind us. Keep the faith and keep our heads

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    • October 5, 2013 at 17:49
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      @the ref: Keep the faith? On what grounds? I'm not in the Lomas out brigade club just yet, he's put together a good squad, but I'm struggling to see what he has done so far with that squad to deserve our backing. The Blackpool performance aside what progress is he making?

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    • October 5, 2013 at 17:49
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      @the ref: As they say s*** happens. Its how you dig yourselves out of it that counts.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:45
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    This is shocking, to get spanked twice in a row is an absolute disgrace and what makes it worse is we have been walked over by two mediocre sides... God help us when QPR come to visit!!! Baffles me as we played so well against Blackpool, Charlton and Leeds? Dont expect up win every week but drubbings are unacceptable and an injustice to the loyal fans that pay to watch the team. Sort it out Lomas as the boo boys will be on and force now and deservedly so!!!

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:48
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    Another changed line up, sure sign of indecisiveness, we may get lucky and have teams worse than us to occupy the bottom three.

    Is that the plan?

    JB has dug deep to get some good players in, they have not become bad overnight so we need stability and certainty.

    If Lomas can't provide it then we need to move on pronto!

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:49
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    Just doesnt cut the mustard nuff said.....

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:50
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    What a shame. After those 3 wins I thought we had turned a corner, but now conceding 9 in two games, another red card and a manager who is way out of his depth, we are in dire straits again. How embarrassing.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:51
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    I believed in giving lomas a chance to prove himself at the WALL but how long can my patience last...im getting the s*** ripped outa me by vermin fans at work......

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    • October 5, 2013 at 17:58
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      @mfc1rob: They ain't got much to crow about hardly setting the prem alight are they,if we can manage to stay up we could well be playing them next season.

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      • October 5, 2013 at 18:38
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        @Sealion: now that would be a light at the end of this dismal season so far lol

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:54
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    I was at Charlton the other day & I thought Lomas showed his lack of tactical knowledge when we were well on top at the start of the 2nd half. Moro had come on as a sub & it was a case of when, not if, we would score. With 20 mins or so to go he decided to make some changes that gave us a more defensive look. Charlton hadn't had a sniff up until then but us inviting them on gave my syphicter twitchy moments right up until the end. On the way out I said to my other half that even though we look a good side in the making a decent, or even semi decent team, would have taken something of us & I was worried Lomas's short comings were going to bite us on the a*** sooner rather than later. Well today my other half was down there & she ain't to pleased! She reckoned that they were all over the shop after the 3rd Bournemouth goal & no one seemed to know what they were suppose to be doing. Lomas might well lack some of the tactical knowledge for this level but what about his backroom staff!? Does Harford or, dare I say it Bomber, not know this league?? Are they contributing on the bench or is Lomas being left hung out to dry? On the other hand is SL saying "It's my team so f*** your advice!". Whatever the f*** is going on they need to pull their collective heads out their arses & start applying tactics to matches 'cos we ain't gonna get anywhere pulling in half a dozen different directions!!

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  • October 5, 2013 at 17:59
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    Previously, prior to KJ and now Lomas, you could almost predict the starting line week in week out, with the exception of the odd injury. Now, for some reason, it changes every game. These are fit, healthy men. Two games in a week is not a problem for them, so why so many changes. We need to find our best side and stick with it. Teams on the park on a Sunday morning know their best teams, and they know there positions and what to do when they get on the park. It seems to me like they are all strangers at Millwall and haven't a clue and the manager has no idea either. This should have been sorted out pre season. Feeny today for Bolton played his best game ever. He knew what to do for the team, he ran at the Birmingham defenders, made three or four good crosses and Bolton scored two goals, why wasn't he allowed to play like that at Millwall. I can't believe Lomas told him to stay in mid field, or am I wrong. So really to sum it up Lomas is clueless. I am sure they players don't need him so just let them get on with it, or let Harris run the show, cos' I am not sure what Hartford is doing either. End of rant.

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    • October 5, 2013 at 18:04
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      @CavanLion: Yeh it didn't take Feeney long to "gel" did it. Or Henry for that matter !

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    • October 5, 2013 at 18:10
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      @CavanLion: Cannot agree more, Feeney is an out and out winger, he lets him out to Bolton and is looking to sign another winger! It don't make sense.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 18:01
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    When we went 2.0 up I thought Lomas had got it bang on tactically for an away game. With Abdou and Derry in the centre , I thought that was more than enough to hold onto the game and professional..............well , what do I know anyway ? ..................................just stunned , again.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 18:02
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    **be professional**

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  • October 5, 2013 at 18:03
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    Just spoken to my son who went, said Millwall were excellent for the first 20 minutes and should have gone 3 or 4 up. Then we let a goal in and complete capitulation, he said we stop marking , layed off there players to much and let them come on. Can't make it out it out, why when we get a goal against us , we go into this self destruct mode. Lomas my be pulling his ginger hair out, must be doing something right to go 2 goals up, then wham give it away. Strange !

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  • October 5, 2013 at 18:04
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    BRING BACK KENNY

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    • October 5, 2013 at 18:09
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      @harryfabian: I thought we had finished with the bad jokes Harry, these kind of performances where players are scared of their own shadows started with KJ after January last season.

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      • October 5, 2013 at 18:18
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        @Sealion: I thought we were finished with the bad jokes Sealion? Blaming KJ for what is going on now, four months after he has left, is plainly ridiculous, however you rated him when he was here.

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        • October 5, 2013 at 18:26
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          @lion.ie: I am not blaming him at all and I was a KJ supporter, but I was just reminding Harry of the performances we had after last Jan when getting passed the ball was about as popular as getting passed the parcel at a Belfast birthday party in the seventies.

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          • October 5, 2013 at 18:33
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            @Sealion: Fair enough.

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      • October 5, 2013 at 19:33
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        @Sealion: Calm down mate I was only joking

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        • October 5, 2013 at 20:26
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          @harryfabian: Thats exactly what I said Harry that I thought we had finished with the bad jokes. lol

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    • October 5, 2013 at 20:11
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      @harryfabian:

      Bring back Spackman...anyone but this f****** clown.

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    • October 5, 2013 at 22:19
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      @harryfabian: the one with the orange anorak

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  • October 5, 2013 at 18:11
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    Mr Lomas please go back to Scotland and give us are MILLWALL BACK !!!!
    And take your tactics and Hartford with you
    J B sort this mess out NOW before it's to late .

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    • October 5, 2013 at 19:34
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      @1968lionrock: I would respect this comment a bit more had you used decent grammar.

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    • October 7, 2013 at 17:36
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      @1968lionrock: I also wonder what Mick Hartford has brought to the club, or does he just sit there blank faced. When he played he just lumped it, so if Lomas goes please take Hartford with you. I am sure Harris could do a much better job, he's one of us.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 18:31
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    Never bothered me personally that SL was ex Whu, but think its time to go now, it was always to big a job for him. With the squad of players we have we should be in the top 10 or even higher! Neil Harris to take over as he knows the millwall way!!

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    • October 5, 2013 at 18:45
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      @dpendet:
      Many clubs have had former club heroes as managers, only for them to disappoint everyone. It is still early in the season, so why not give SL until Xmas?

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      • October 5, 2013 at 19:11
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        @SE14 Exile: I would normally agree with you, but averaging 4 goals against by Xmas and we will be dead and burried. I amnot sure thatw e have the luxury of giving him that long. Next three games and if no great improvement we have to hit the panic button

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  • October 5, 2013 at 18:31
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    Just heard SL's post-match interview. Mostly complained of poor referee decisions. Didn't criticise any players, but neither did he admit to any faults in his own choices for today.
    However, what else could he say? He must know that he is not liked by the fans, the players are not performing as he would like, the chairman probably has little confidence in him now.
    All very depressing. But can anyone else come along and do any better? Probably not.

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    • October 5, 2013 at 19:12
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      @SE14 Exile: I am not even sure the club could afford a change of management, that's why i think Harford is poised to take over and keep the staff on.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 18:31
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    The reality is that after 11 games we are only slightly worse off than we were last season (one point less). We have conceded two more goals and scored four less. However we are five points clear of the bottom three as opposed to three points last season, so arguably in a better position. Where I see a big difference is that KJ could only have dreamed of working with a squad of this quality having kept us up for two seasons with the 'deadwood'. Lomas out is still a bit premature but we need to see some real progress and some more Blackpool type performances and very soon.
    And please get a decent centre half in on loan before we play again.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 18:42
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    0 - 1 v Yeovil - deserved to lose

    0 - 3 v Ipswich - thrashed

    0 - 1 v Hudersfield - deserved to lose

    2 - 2 v Sheff Wed - surrendered a lead to losing position and nicked a draw with disputed pen

    1 - 1 v Brighton - tactically handed them the initiative at 1 - 0 up surrendered a lead, player sent off

    1 - 5 v Derby - smashed

    3 - 1 v Blackpool - played well

    1 - 0 v Charlton - worth a win but not great

    2- 0 v Leeds played well could have been 6

    0 - 4 v Birmingham - smashed

    2 - 4 v Bournemouth - shocking

    Played 11 - lost 6 - won 3 - nicked 2 draws. This record does not make me think Lomas is taking us anywhere but relegated or almost relegated.

    Football is a results game be it a pub league or the professional game. The biggest difference is that professional football is even more of a results game. Some of you have played and/or managed football so tell me this - if you were part of the results above what would you expect? Don't think it would be a vote of confidence.

    Is there any other side in the entire football league that's lost by 5 twice, has shipped 14 goals to 3 in a certain 3 games and has had 3 red cards all topped off by 6 losses out of 11 and two somewhat fortunate draws.
    Lomas should f*** off now and open the job for someone that knows what's needed to keep us in this league

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    • October 5, 2013 at 19:05
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      @Old_Les: All valid Les, but it's the Blackpool and Leeds performances that make me think twice about getting rid. If he can get that kind of performance three out of five games instead of two out of ten we'll be heading the right way. The injuries to key players at key times haven't helped him either. The fact that we are five points clear of bottom three still buys him at least until the end of November.

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      • October 5, 2013 at 19:15
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        @lion.ie: I agree Lion, three more games to get the type of performances we know they are capable of, if not we have to assume the players are not responding to him. I know we all want him to succeed but the last two performances have indicated a failure in performance by the players and poor management. These two things are linked, and all hold responsibility. Nothing is stoppng the players taking the responsibility and winning a bloody game.

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        • October 5, 2013 at 20:03
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          @glyngo: Three more games to "get the type of performance we know they are capable of." Where's your logic gone? Three (one of them not very good) winning performances out of 11 translates to 8 s*** performance out of 11 so the statistics are not on the side of your argument.

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      • October 5, 2013 at 19:59
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        @lion.ie: You're wrong - it's 3 out of 11 games and one of those (Charlton) was not convincing. Fools already effectively suggesting we should rely on other teams because they are "worse" than us and will take the relegation places. Let's not be too sure about that. Roll our current results out over a season and it's 45 points top whack - were will that get us?

        Whatever the problem it's down to the manager (again blaming everyone bar himself for today's disgrace) and he should do the decent thing and resign tout suite

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        • October 5, 2013 at 20:44
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          @Old_Les: I didn't include the Charlton game, that's why I said two out of ten. I was referring to the only two notable performances so we are agreed there. By most accounts we were OK for most of the Brighton game before Dunne got sent off as well. The facts are that despite the shocking start and the last two shockers we are still five points clear of relegation. We have QPR, Reading and Burnley up next so Lomas has no place to hide, Beevers aside he should have a full squad to pick from after the break, so no excuses either. If we don't perform in those games we'll get hammered again and then it's writing on the wall time for him and he'll probably have Bolton, Barnsley and Leicester matches to save his job by the end of November. Lomas has done little to deserve that long but I just have a nagging thought that if he did get this group of players to click like they did against Blackpool and Leeds who knows where it would take us?

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  • October 5, 2013 at 18:50
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    Surely this has to be the end of Dunne? He is imo a liability, when I saw the three bookings from what it seems a prat of a ref I knew one had to be sent off and it was Dunne again. What was the point of some of the substitutions? None made any difference in fact why take off Trotter for Morison? He made a goal and scored the other. Have to say tactically when under pressure SL does not seem to have any answers. After all Bournemouth did not cave in when 2-0 down they sussed out Millwall's weaknesses and came back fighting. Millwall had no answers. Just gutted and feel for the travelling fans to have to go through another nightmare.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 18:51
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    I am really starting to worry now. Getting turned over when you've a 2-goal lead is bad enough but 5-2? The scary thing is that if JB gives Lomas the old tin tack, who would want to take the job on in his stead? I am a fan of Bomber but I don't even know if he's got all his badges yet.

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    • October 5, 2013 at 19:35
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      @woodenlion: He would need his magicians badge at the very least.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 18:52
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    @se14exile. Cos if we give him till Xmas it might be to late! This club can't afford league 1 football we have players earning in excess of 10k per week on two year contracts!!

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    • October 5, 2013 at 19:02
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      @dpendet:
      How long would you give SL, or should he go now? That decision will not be his in any case, but the chairman's. Would JB pick Harris?

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:03
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    Let us vote on players performances for their pay then maybe some of them will play with desire and not s*** umselves when we have a goal scored against us and as for the ginger one do one please right now and Jb give Curbishly a ring this evening!

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    • October 5, 2013 at 19:43
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      @millwallpete: I seem to remember that Curbishley has some kind of WH connection, so if he didn't start winning straight away all this "Vermin" b******* would start again.
      Why would AC want to come to us, he has been out of football a long time so I can't imagine that he has not had any better offers so why would he want us unless he is some kind of sado masochist.

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    • October 5, 2013 at 21:07
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      @millwallpete: I agree. The guy is tactically inept I would welcome Curbishley. Did wonders at anoraks on little to nothing budget. I do believe with the squad of players we now have there will be a decent manager out there happy to have a go. Preferably AC. We can afford him.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:04
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    Let us vote on players performances for their pay then maybe some of them will play with desire and not sh£t umselves when we have a goal scored against us and as for the ginger one do one please right now and Jb give Curbishly a ring this evening!

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:04
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    Comments on here are largely fuelled by frustration and sometimes jubilation. What I find ridiculous is the call from some posters for Bomber to take over. In managerial terms he's an embryo and no where near qualified to manage our club. I say give SL until xmas , the league doesn't lie and make a decision then........ Knee jerk reactions get no one no where

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      • October 5, 2013 at 20:01
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        @sealion
        Cheers mate. The sort of , lomas out he aint got a clue at this level and get bomber in makes me laugh. The truth is KJ got us out of league one. He struggled at this level too. Its not an easy division and managing us is incredibly difficult. We're a small club trying to drink champagne on lemonade money !

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      • October 5, 2013 at 20:02
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        heers mate. The sort of , lomas out he aint got a clue at this level and get bomber in makes me laugh. The truth is KJ got us out of league one. He struggled at this level too. Its not an easy division and managing us is incredibly difficult. We're a small club trying to drink champagne on lemonade money !

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    • October 5, 2013 at 21:13
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      @Block 8:

      Make You right there . .I've seen posters on the forums calling for bomber to replace him and then moaning about Millwall choosing lomas because he was the cheapest option . . You can't give someone a job on sentiment and if he f***** up he would go from hero to villain overnight . . I have had enough of lomas now though and we can't wait til Christmas to see how he gets on . . If will are in the s*** then and sack him no one else will touch us with a barge pole

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    • October 5, 2013 at 21:15
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      @Block 8:

      Make You right . .I've seen posters on the forums calling for bomber to replace him and then moaning about Millwall choosing lomas because he was the cheapest option . . You can't give someone a job on sentiment and if he f***** up he would go from hero to villain overnight . . I have had enough of lomas now though and we can't wait til Christmas to see how he gets on . . If will are in the s*** then and sack him no one else will touch us with a barge pole

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:04
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    Let us vote on players performances for their pay then maybe some of them will play with desire and not s4it themselves when we have a goal scored against us and as for the ginger one do one please right now and Jb give Curbishly a ring this evening!

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    • October 5, 2013 at 19:13
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      @millwallpete:
      Do you mean Alan Curbishley, ex-West Ham and Charlton?

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:16
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    I still go with SL......we are in this champ league,we are 4 points behind 9th. Some of the players were not there for birm game,not his fault. We can score and yes the goals going in are a joke. 2 up and then s*** and what absolutely pisses me off more than this is that a player thinks he's some sort of Jimmy Case gives a pen at Birm' and gets sent off today,and for me he can f.ck off.
    All will work out and we will do QPR.......just don't mess with the line up all the time..

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:18
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    there should be an apology followed by a full refund for anyone that went to both birmingham and bournmouth.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:19
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    we are an absolute joke....the problem is that JB wil not sack him . Beevers is a big loss and playing Derry is showing Lomas reliance on 'has been' players....

    Depressing times

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:21
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    Away on holiday and obviously not missing much on seeing the last two results, I wanted lomas out after derby done us 1-5,he gained some extra time/matches after we won 3 on the spin...1 of which was due to a massive deflection against Charlton, Leeds were utter pony and we could have done them by 5, the only result that gave me confidence was the fantastic result v Blackpool, so that's one truly outstanding result/performance out of 11, please grab your coat and turn of the lights on the way out Mr Lomas. It's Nothing personal nor to do with west ham connection....purely down to your lack of experience at this level.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:38
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    At about three this afternoon I decided to take a nap. Seems like the players did too. I was hoping for a Leeds style boring 1-0. Woke up for final score on the Beeb to find we'd lost 5-2.
    I can only agree with everyone here SL aint going to get us out of the mire we are developing week on week.
    The board have cocked up big time now and we will need a masive mirical to escape the drop.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:46
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    It's a pity the board can't be sacked. They control the money and make the major decisions.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:46
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    what about nigel clough nows a good signing only just been sacked and knows the game well worth a try cant be as bad as lomas also i was at the game today first twenty minutes they couldnt touch the ball but then there 20 got the ball and look a threat when he played against dunney i think the needed a challenge witha afoot left in and then he wouldnt have wanted the ball anymore finally i think that we start with morison and foghorn no trotter and try smith at rb instead of dunney or conolly

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:47
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    and no we go in to the international break with tough games cumming up with qpr at home and reading it is unlikely for us to get a point from those games becuase qpr are just flying . i really think he is going to go soon

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  • October 5, 2013 at 19:57
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    Just seen Lomas's post match interview and shock.....he's blaming the ref! We weren't playing against the ref, it was the 11 players in the red and black stripes he should of been worried about! D*******!

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  • October 5, 2013 at 20:00
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    Has he gone yet?

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  • October 5, 2013 at 20:19
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    truelions - You beat me to it when you mentioned Nigel Clough. He kept Derby in this league season after season usually finishing in a mid table position with a limited budget. I am sure he would relish the challenge of managing Millwall with the squad we now have and would bring the best out of the players. I know Lowry is a liability at Left Back but why not play him in his best position of Centre Back? Why bring back Derry and drop Bailey leaving Chaplow out of the starting eleven? Injuries to Beevers and McDonald mean making changes but we have never had a settled team since the start of the season Saw Feeney on the box for Bolton today and he deserved Man of the Match. Henry also had a blinder for Wolves so is Lomas sending the wrong players out on loan? or can't he motivate them at this club and is this the problem with other players in the squad as well? 11 games played is nearly a quarter of the season and I don't think we can give any SL any longer or it will be too late to save our season.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 20:25
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    what is wrong with this team and the management every time we take the lead we start defending on the 18 yard line for the rest of the game like our lives depend on it and giving the opposition the rest of the pitch to do what they want ffs go forward play our attacking game like its 0-0 and end up winning some of these games for a change come on robbo be the captain and play higher up the field and win games like we know we can

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  • October 5, 2013 at 20:37
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    At the time of posting this, there are 100 comments.
    All read.
    I can't objectively comment on today's game because I wasn't there and haven't seen the highlights.
    What I can say is this-
    Any team that gets spanked 0-4 and then apparently have a heart to heart afterwards should progress.
    Didn't.
    Any team that goes 2-0 up away from home should be able to see the game out.
    Didn't.
    I go back to what I said a few weeks ago. Lomas inherited what he thought was a sound defence so consequently built and spent on the midfield and attack. Thought the defence was good enough . Isn't.
    Smart though. Brought Harris in as his first appointment and we were all laying rose petals at his feet.
    He has brought in a lot of very, very good players. What ever you think of lomas, you really can't argue with that.
    So, what's the problem ?
    I hear rumours of discontent. I hear abrasive styles not going down well. I think it's deeper than that. I personally think that the players are not responding for whatever reasons they have. You can't win 3 on the bounce and then play s***. Last two games scored 2 conceded 9 !!!!
    I'd be very, very surprised if lomas is still the Millwall manager in two weeks time.
    Whether it's his fault or the players fault is up for grabs. Either way, it's not working.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 20:39
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    I think Lomas will be with us for a while yet. He won't be sacked anytime soon. As for the Tony Pulis and Nigel Clough suggestions , get real ! They're massive names with years of experience managing sides. No one with any pedigree would touch us with a barge pole. It's never happened before , why would it start now ? Managers comes to us to make their name , not screw their entire reputation and future up. KJ will take Wolves up and be sacked by next Christmas cos he too is limited at this level.

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    • October 5, 2013 at 20:53
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      @Block 8: Why the fk is it necessary for posters to keep slagging KJ four months after he left? I've said this before, go back and look at the squads he has kept 'at this level'. Yeah it ended badly for him but maybe it's not him that is limited 'at this level', maybe it might just be our club. I would be 100% confident that KJ would not only keep this squad 'at this level' but that we'd be pushing top ten with ease, sadly I couldn't say the same about Lomas or indeed Clough, Pulis etc etc etc

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      • October 5, 2013 at 21:08
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        I'm not slagging KJ off. I just think based on results and tactics etc for us at this level , he is limited. If SL signed Rob Hulse , he'd be crucified. But , at the same time , managing us is a very difficult job I would imagine.

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    • October 5, 2013 at 20:56
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      Totally agree. And these people that are touting Curbishley, Clough and Pulis for example aren't seeing too clearly.

      @Block 8:

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    • October 5, 2013 at 21:38
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      @Block 8: Would have liked to have seen KJ with this squad.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 20:54
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    Never before have i been not lookin forwad to sat footy. Embarisin sham. Fck off beaker n let us get a real wall manager. Players dont deserve payin this wk they to blame as wel. Weak melts. Im gona start watchin cricket!

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  • October 5, 2013 at 20:55
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    We are the laughing stock of the league it's a joke now

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  • October 5, 2013 at 20:56
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    We are the laughing stock of the league it's a joke

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    • October 5, 2013 at 21:15
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      Millwall have never been bothered about what other people think. Laughing stock ? With whom ?WHU supporters ? Who gives a s*** what they think. They're in enough trouble of their own.
      The tought process should now be at boardroom level. Clough got fired 2 games after giving us a royal spanking, so the precedent has been set. We can't win 3 games and then get stuffed well and truly for the next two. There is something very, very wrong here. All I want is my Millwall back.
      If that means a new manager then so be it. Unfortunately, neither you or I make those decisions. I do agree with lion.ie when he says maybe its Millwall and not the managers who are to blame. We've built up this notoriety on the pitch and in the stands that, whatever is actually said, is something that has held us back. That means low support ( look at what Palace got and charlton get) and no high flying managers chomping at the bit to take the job. Supporting Millwall in my opinion is a priveledge because it's always like this and there's an understanding of that. You can't change it, never going to be able to change it.

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      • October 5, 2013 at 21:35
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        @NICKOLA: both this post and the other long one above I am in total agreement.

        All points made very well and are very intelligent.

        Always good to read sensible comment rather than all of the rants - which everyone is entitled to of course.

        If it's true that his management style is abrasive and he has lost or is in danger of losing the dressing room then he is as good as a dead man walking.

        But these are mainly his players and he brought in most of the first team squad. If he can't control them and get them on board, is there hope?

        I have said many times on here that he has had more financial backing than any other Millwall manager in our history. And I am not one who reacts with knee jerk comments like sack him.

        But how long does he get?

        Who is a serious replacement?

        IMO I think he will get until December which would be a fair crack of the whip.

        I also do not think that we will get relegated, however, the defence must be sured up for sure. But his only defensive signing is Connolly, and he ain't exactly lighting things up is he?

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        • October 5, 2013 at 22:28
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          I think Lomas is more than aware that his job is now under serious threat.
          He will now make the loan signings to totall revamp the defence so it is his team that's out there. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Either way, time will soon be up.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 21:07
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    when you go 2 0 up, ball retention is the key, short passes accross that side, back over here, back to the keeper, pass,pass pass, just keep the thing,cos if they aint got it they cant hurt us, in all our games we never seem to have the ball, i'v never known a millwall team to lose possetion so quickly, always hitting long stray balls thats got little chance of finding a teamate, at 2 0 up we should just play keep ball and keep it safe run them around in circles and demoralise em, but no, we keep throwing the ball forward,lose possetion and then they are running at us through midfield

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    • October 5, 2013 at 22:32
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      @bordersarebest0170: borders you're right mate, what you're talking about is ABC 123 and I just can't get my head around how a group of players who do nothing other than, talk, eat, sleep, s*** and p*** football do not appear to grasp this. Even if the oppo comes on strong for a spell, play ugly or spoil the rhythm of the game, let fordey walk around the box with the ball at his feet, chuck a few balls into the channels and hold it up in their half!!! For all The flack SL is getting on tactics etc I have to ask, where are the leaders on the pitch? step up you melts...

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    • October 5, 2013 at 23:52
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      @bordersarebest0170: totally right mate I was at brum and today, it's basically lack if ability and cowardice when the pressures on, and although the manager has to take blame tactically he can't influence individual performance, unfortunately the dressing room is full of loanees and has beens we are in big trouble and it needs major surgery

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  • October 5, 2013 at 21:10
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    Grabban chants a bit strong I must admit. Ref was s***, decisions were b*******. Gave fouls against us where the previous fouls from opposition were equally as bad. We looked like the dog's first half, Trotter played well for the first time since God knows when... Then the second half came. Bailey was p!ss poor, lazy and offered nothing. Robbo as usual lumping it up top. Abdou went missing today also, surprisingly... but it just wern't his type of game. Not a lot of their play went through the middle I suppose. Dunne, well what can I say... not a lot. Always has been our weak link whenever he's in the side, passing poor, can't head a ball, rubbish at dealing with anyone who has even a slightly decent turn of pace. Undeserved red card, no doubt, but the way he played today I wasn't too bothered at that point. There were so many positives to take from the first half performance, we kept the ball well, played good football, Malone gave excellent support going forward. However, we lacked bottle in the second half, the whole team. Gutted... Hope Lomas don't get sacked, he's got more to give IMO.

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  • October 5, 2013 at 21:28
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    Why the f*** would you bring in Derry!!! If your going to drop bailey I would of replaced him with chaplow!? Was he injured? If so I would go kept bailey in CM.... I can understand loaning Henry out but feeney hadn't been given a chance this season and is showing what he can do also I wouldn't have loaned him to a team that's going to be down and around us!!

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  • October 5, 2013 at 21:28
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    Christ we Millwall fans are fickle, of course it's not acceptable to lose 5-2 after being 2-0 up but the fact remains that Lomas got Millwall in the position of 2-0 up in the first place, keep the faith lads. COYL

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    • October 5, 2013 at 22:00
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      @Jedz99:
      Great point , we're a tiny club , probably 3rd smallest in the league based on attendances. If we finish 4th bottom , we've over achieved ! I said earlier , you can't drink Champagne on Lemonade money. COYL

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      • October 5, 2013 at 22:25
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        @Block 8: tell that to Blackpool , smaller than us and have been in the Prem, won the FA cup and been in the old Div one more than us....... Er and Wimbledon , and loads more. Shove your Lemonade and bring on the Asti ( if we can't have champagne)

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        • October 6, 2013 at 11:52
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          @Lincolnshire Lion:
          Are the teams you mention smaller than us based on average home attendance ? I'm not so sure.....

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    • October 5, 2013 at 22:21
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      @Jedz99: fickle you prat LOOK at the score ,,,,,, Still the names peeks volumes ! Jeez!

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    • October 5, 2013 at 22:27
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      @Jedz99: stud post of the day award goes here

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  • October 5, 2013 at 21:45
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    got back , a long journey , a lot of money spent , my take on this game was ,
    at 2.0 up great stuff , but after dunn and derry got booked, lomas should of made the decision , it was clear to see the boy fraser who scored was getting far two much time in the middle for me , you could see that dunn and derry was cautious to make tackles . and a joke of a choice to take trotter off and leave three defensive cm on when we are losing , without forde making a great save in the first half and harte hitting the bar , we have gone from having a solid defence last season , WITH THE SAME PLAYERS, to a shambles , its like school kids playing , and as for grabben he should of been sent off for inciting trouble how howe can condone his actions is a joke .

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  • October 5, 2013 at 22:23
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    Ment speeks

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  • October 5, 2013 at 22:24
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    Speaks

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  • October 5, 2013 at 22:44
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    All said and done we were never gonna pull up any trees this season. Its the toughest championship in years and three from about eight teams will go (us possibly being one of 'em)
    However to get smashed big time in 3 of the last 6 matches is concerning, with the squad we have this should not be happening. Like it or not the defence needs sorting so bringing in loanees is the only solution, although Beevers coming back will help. Dunny is doing his team mates and manager no favours so a decent right back coming in is a must. 4-4-2 against QPR and a fighting display in front of the Den and nothing less will do. COYL

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  • October 5, 2013 at 23:26
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    Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! Life as a millwall supporter is f****** frustrating !

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  • October 5, 2013 at 23:41
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    Must have been a f****** blinding half time team talk.

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  • October 6, 2013 at 01:08
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    Ed Balls.

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  • October 6, 2013 at 01:31
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    Please tell us Mr Lomarse WHY you brought Derry back in....

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  • October 6, 2013 at 04:53
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    I'm in Florida at the moment and I've had the p*** ripped out of me at a theme park today- not by Bournemouth fans but by a bunch of Wet Spam dickheads who can't believe Lomas is in charge-F***ing typical- 4000 miles away and still not out of the firing line.Extra defending classes required this week I think!#COYL

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  • October 6, 2013 at 07:26
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    Don't know what to say anymore! Ruined my weekend!

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  • October 6, 2013 at 08:23
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    Lomas just f*** off you know f*** all you ginger c***

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  • October 6, 2013 at 08:38
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    Eddie Howe was on our original shortlist of replacements. Seems like the board got it wrong - his motivational skills are obviously better than SL;s. When SL said before the game that we need to come out all guns blazing , what he forgot to tell them was that it was not just for the first 10 minutes. Reports say that we tried defending the 2 goal lead If you have a defence like Bayern Munich that might work but we have now one of the worst defences in the league. I would rather nick each match 1-0 (like QPR) and know that our defence is impregnable. I think SL has been so busy building the attack that he has neglected the defence. That said, Beevers has been missing through this and he was playing well so maybe when he comes back him and Robbo can build something. As much as I like Malone he is more of an attacking back. IMO we need 2 new solid defenders to help protect what the forwards are now capable of. Thus ends the philosophy of a Cold Blow Lane veteran.

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  • October 6, 2013 at 09:15
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    Naive is the word here, no doubt a two goal lead is enough in Scotland as the fitness levels mean that most games become pedestrian after an hour.

    Mr Lomas this is big boys football and you play what's brought you success for the entire game, you don't have the track record to change plans and make sweeping tactical substitutions.

    Keep it simple.

    All great teams do just that.

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    • October 6, 2013 at 10:00
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      @wongo:
      Indeed. All great teams do keep it simlle. Mind you, only if a) there's talent on the pitch and b) players play as a team & for each other.

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  • October 6, 2013 at 09:35
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    Lomas came in on the back foot, being a ex-hammer. I didn't care I just wanted the best man to replace Kenny who was a great Millwall manager but had had enough. Even after the first few games I realised you had to give the team time to gel. Finally at Blackpool signs of what could be. Charlton was a win, it wasn't convincing and at the end you could see the relief on Lomas' face. Leeds was a good performance but interestingly enough against Blackpool and Leeds all the good work was done in the second half. I was even prepared to give the Birmingham defeat up as a bad night on a ground we never win at.

    Then Bournemouth, firstly I never went but I've read the reports, the comments and the tweets. 2-0 up after 10 minutes playing good stuff and we then try to defend a lead for 80 minutes away from home. Howe must have thought it was Christmas but really it's desparation. A fact highlighted by two penalties conceded and a sending off all of which suggests we were seriously under the cosh and defending desparately.

    So where do we go next. We have a manager who is under intense pressure and therefore is not utilising what is one of the best EVER Millwall squads ever assembled. We have talented players being chopped and changed and obviously unhappy at what is going on. We have fans who want the manager out and are prepared to show their discontent by staying away from games putting a financial strain on the club.

    Sometimes you can plod along and hope that things improve but if they don't everyone suffers or you can change things straight away to prevent further failings.

    I think the club need a serious look at things and make a decision because at this rate we are going nowhere fast.

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  • October 6, 2013 at 09:54
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    Gutted is an understatement. Players also need to man up. Dont sit back on a 2 goal lead when you are not defending well. Go for it FFS. The best form of defence is attack especially when you are 2 nil up.

    Dropping Bailey for Derry was stupid. Send him back to QPR asap. At least he can't play in two weeks.

    Taking Trotter off for Morison also shows me Lomas that YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING.

    Some of our fans need to man up as well regarding having the p*** ripped out of em. So f****** what. Go and support Man U or Chelsea and it wont happen so much if your that worried. I am gutted by what's going on at the club but can always handle any stick I am going to take from other fans. That's what makes me different as a Millwall supporter to most other fans I come across because unlike them I can take it. You support the wrong club if you are worried about what other people think.

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  • October 6, 2013 at 10:17
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    Enough is enough. Lomas probably felt obliged to play Moro & Derry. I suspect Derry probably hastled him during the week and kept asking him ''When you gonna play me again boss. I didn't come here to sit on the bench you know!?'' As for Moro, well he WON'T succeed here in his second spell as he is nowhere near hungry enough. The deluded fool thinks that because he's had experience in the Premiership he doesn't need to do the ugly part of the game anymore, rather turn up, point fingers & let others do the donkey work. Unfortunately, this attitude quickly filters through the rest of the team & you're then left with a bunch of egotistical individuals & not a team.

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    • October 6, 2013 at 11:24
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      @NO1LIKESUS: Probably one of the strangest posts ever on here.

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    • October 7, 2013 at 17:51
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      @NO1LIKESUS: Moving Henry and Feeny, who are both very capable of providing crosses for Moro could be the problem. Moro is not a front man than you just hit long balls to, he also cannot then get the ball down and run at defenders. He's Blackpool goal shows how he plays, so why lump long balls to him. It's crosses he wants and we have let the wingers to provide these, go. It's Hartford that loves Millwall to lump it.

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