Lomas: Millwall have to keep believing after Forest defeat

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© Brian Tonks

STEVE Lomas was pleased with Millwall's performance despite their 2-1 defeat to Nottingham Forest in the second round of the Capital One Cup.

Andy Keogh cancelled out Matt Derbyshire's opening goal to take the tie into extra time, but Jamaal Lascelles restored Forest' lead and Billy Davies' side held on to progress.

And whilst Lomas was again left frustrated by the Lions' sloppy defending of corners, he was pleased with the overall standard of the display.



"I thought we played very well again and we've come away with nothing when we should be sitting here in the next round," he said. "When you're the away team and you have 16 shots on goal, you're entitled to think you should have got something from the game.

"I was happy with how we played. We had more shots on target than them and that's a good stat for an away team. There were a lot of positives, it's coming, and I just want the lads to believe in themselves.

"I'll have at least 40 clips of good play to show them tomorrow, we've just got to cut out these mistakes. They tried to knock the ball around and matched a very good Forest team."



When asked about Millwall's achilles heel this season – conceding goals from set pieces – Lomas said: "We designate roles and responsibilities to the players before the game and once they're out on the pitch, they've got to implement them.

"Five of our goals against have been from set plays and that isn't a good stat."

Alex Aldridge

(@accordingtoaldo)

40 thoughts on “Lomas: Millwall have to keep believing after Forest defeat

  • August 29, 2013 at 00:04
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    I've got no comment on what Lomas says.
    To those of you that went tonight, I salute you.
    How any manager can play deadwood when we're trying to formulate a team of newcomers is beyond me, cup game or not.

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    • August 29, 2013 at 06:21
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      @NICKOLA: What you are asking for is never going to happen in these types of games, squad players are always used to give them a chance to show what they can do to the manager or other watching clubs, we know they are deadwood but still squad players SL has to make his own mind up regarding them, Malone for example apparently played well according to the audio on lions player, Feeney scored, this Saturday is the important game, something has gone badly wrong with the 'set-peice defending' I do not remember this being a problem last season, do you know who our defensive coach is? the first team goes have a settled look about it, K & Mcd, Martin,Baily Chaps & Derry, Robbo etc, need Forde back this week he has been selected for Ireland so must be fit

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  • August 29, 2013 at 00:09
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    "Pleased with the performance " " signs of improvement " " keep believing " is it me or is he coming out with the same old s*** after every game? it's time for the board to admit they made a mistake and get rid before this gets any worse

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    • August 29, 2013 at 01:06
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      @bazzer: he is coming out with the same old rubbish because that what our defense is at defending set plays if they ball watch or fail to attack the ball at set pieces thats not sl fault that s the players fault he can only coach them,when they get on the pitch its up to them to try and get it right.i dont think we have had one really good goal scored against us this season they have all come from defensive mistakes,thats not sl fault its the players.

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      • August 29, 2013 at 10:16
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        @jim1222: I understand what your saying but it's the same defence as last season and we didn't seem to be making these mistakes at set pieces under jacket? It's hard for me to comment as I don't go to every game (I live in Devon) so I'm only going on what I read in the match reports. I was willing to give Lomas a chance but this is our worst start to a season in years the problem is Lomas get rid now! If we win our next 5 games I will gladly come on here and admit I was wrong.

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      • August 29, 2013 at 10:55
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        @bazzer: i reckon our defensive problems could be linked to Forde being out, he would surely be marshaling our defence at set plays but i could be wrong. i didn't go to the game last night but a friend of mind did and he said we didn't play as bad as he expected, we had more shots at goal than they did and passed the ball well, i think its promising that our squad players came in and gave them a game albeit against a second string forest side. i wouldn't be getting rid of SL just yet he has to have at least 10 games

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  • August 29, 2013 at 00:13
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    I'm holding on to this for now....

    'Despite a slow start to the 2012–13 season after many changes to the squad - 12 players were out of contract during the summer - St Johnstone had an excellent September, drawing with Dundee United and winning the next four matches, the first against Celtic, ending Ross County's 40 game unbeaten run and beating rivals Dundee, as well as reaching the quarter finals of the Scottish League Cup. On 4 October 2012, Lomas was named SPL Manager of the month, the first time a St Johnstone manager had won the award.[17] On beating the Manager of the Month "curse" in October to record 5th and 6th straight wins against St Mirren and Kilmarnock,'

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    • August 29, 2013 at 00:14
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      St.Mirren and Kilmarnock are a long way from Forest and Brighton.

      @lion.ie:

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      • August 29, 2013 at 00:20
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        @NICKOLA: And you'd hope that Millwall are a long way from St. Johnstone, for all our sakes!

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  • August 29, 2013 at 06:12
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    We lost to Nottingham reserves, We had a lot of first team players out there tonight and still lost.
    Thankfully i never went but according to sky sports we were getting battered.
    I wonder where these 40 clips of good play are coming from, has he downloaded Barcelona's last game?
    lomas needs to be moved on now, i dont care who he has played for previously either but for the sake of our season, harsh decisions need to be made.

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    • August 29, 2013 at 09:49
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      @jdt1885: Many of these so called reserves are very good players who would command large transfer fees and would walk into our team. Henderson didn't even make the bench. So just because they are not the starting 11 doesn't make them a walkover.
      You lot make me laugh you're not happy unless you are moaning or slagging off. If McD's shot had gone in which 8 out of 10 times it would have or Keogh had not put over from a yard out we would have won.Then Lomas would have got it right, or would you still have criticised and moaned.
      Lomas needs time the job he has taken on is a huge one, the total rebuilding of a team, it is a long ongoing project. We have had a lot of injuries, you moan about so called deadwood playing (by all accounts they played very well) but Brighton do not have a midweek game and will be fresh for Saturday so playing our first 11 and risking them to injury and not keeping them fresh would have been foolish. But then if he had have played them and we picked up more injuries he would have been slagged off for that.
      I suggest we keep it simple Let Lomas manage and we support.
      You all think you are bloody experts but you never see the whole picture.
      Slagging off is easy.

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      • August 29, 2013 at 16:22
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        Then maybe we should put in offers for their reserves, then they would play every week.

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        • August 29, 2013 at 16:45
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          @jdt1885:What with peanuts, We have no budget left and they are probably not for sale.

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      • August 29, 2013 at 18:12
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        @Sealion:
        Totally agree mate, well said

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  • August 29, 2013 at 06:33
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    @jdt1885: Sky sports got it wrong, I listened to the game on Lions player, we played well, Woolford played, Smith ,Malone, Jimmy, Feeney so quite a few reserves played we were the better team and again missed good chances, things are improving SL will not be going anywhere, I think we will get 3 points this Sat if Forde is back which he should be and then it will look a lot better

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    • August 29, 2013 at 07:11
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      And still lost, according to lions player we should be top of the league.

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      • August 29, 2013 at 16:47
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        @jdt1885: You sure got out of bed the wrong side this morning. lol

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  • August 29, 2013 at 07:20
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    For me, the only question I have is how many losses do we need to suffer, how many fans do the club want to lose, how much is player confidence going to be eroded before Lomas is finally exposed. Being successfully with a 2-bob sweaty club is no yard stick for the English Championship.

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    • August 29, 2013 at 07:37
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      Totally agree.

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    • August 29, 2013 at 08:55
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      @Bayern_Lion: Every young manager has to start somewhere, Celtic are no '2 bob sweaty team' ST J beat them last season so imo not a bad start for him, he now wants to take that on with MFC, Imo he should be given at least until the end of the year, confidence comes from performances as well as results, last night a good performance with squad players in so not bad,
      3 points at Brighton more important this Sat COYL

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  • August 29, 2013 at 07:38
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    Think it's worth remembering that we played a strong team that are currently unbeaten and are top of the league. Therefore in my view a competitive performance and draw after 90 minutes is not such a bad thing, and if it was a league game I would have been happy with a point... Lets remember SL has inherited a squad that couldn't buy a win the second half of last season even when a win on the last game of the season would have guaranteed our our safety!!! Give the bloke a chance, could be worse we could be as s##t as Charlton!!!

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  • August 29, 2013 at 08:17
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    I cannot believe the negativity at the moment, its ridiculous!

    Steve Lomas is trying to instil a little confidence into the team, by talking to the press and being positive or would you prefer him to say it's all doom and gloom?? The season might as well be over and us relegated the way people go on.

    It is hard for someone to build confidence after the way we ended last season, players look dead and buried but slowly their confidence is growing (look at Keogh, couldn't hit a barn door last season and has started the season brightly).

    You have to remember Jackett was in charge for almost 6 years and tactically playing a certain way.... this year we have a new manager and several new signings who are of a very good championship standard.... of course it's going to take time.

    Let's stay positive and back the players and manager alike!!

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    • August 29, 2013 at 09:57
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      @Bradders: Fully agree Bradders sense at last, I can understand the frustrations and emotions but the only way forward is to have patience how ever long it takes because if Lomas is hounded out by the angry brigade the we will be totally up s*** creek.

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  • August 29, 2013 at 08:26
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    Woodford seems to have been missed off the list of players that impressed tonight but according to the commentary he played very well and had a number of shots saved.

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  • August 29, 2013 at 09:06
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    Shamelessly lifted from HOF and my advice is to believe those at the game long before you believe anything on this site from Lomas, Aldi, Staff or in the Southwark News.

    Living in South Lincolnshire has some benefits.

    well well, not what I was expecting thought we would get stuffed but actually matched forest all over the pitch and should have got a result.

    the miss by Keogh in extra time goes down as the worst I have ever seen live. We had a good shot well saved but there keeper parried it along the goal line. Keogh some how managed to put this high and wide. FFS.

    Throughout the game we had countless chances first half can't remember Bywaters making a save of any note. McDonald had. Great effort saved. Woolford had a cracking volley saved, all in all a much better performance, we hoofed it occasionally but by and large kept it on the deck the whole game.
    plusses for the team.

    Maloney and Woolford worked well together down the left both of them really fit and kept it going right to the end, impressed with both Maloney who got better and better as the game went on, and Woolford put himself about and proved he can be a very useful footballer.

    Robbo and Beevers excellent together. Robbo worries me he seams to limp when he's walking put the looses the limp when running, I hope he's ok. Beevers and Robbo actually tried to play it from the back and when they did it worked well, if they went long it just came bombing back.

    Bailey good control of the middle, Jimmy had a good first 45 then faded. Smith and Feeney doesn't work for us. Feeney was ok but often went too wide with no end result, he scored tho so that's a plus.

    macdonald this bloke is class, play it tight into his feet and he brings everyone into play not sure why he was subbed. Martin played a sort of centre forward type of role, skill full player, well see a lot more from him, wasn't happy being subbed.

    Marquis 100 percent hard working awfull player.

    Chaplow in the centre for Bailey a great game in the centre midfield.

    Keogh the usual nothing.

    Good game I'll give the whole team 7/10

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  • August 29, 2013 at 09:07
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    And again - something lifted shamelessly from HOF

    Overall we played well tonight took about 10-15 mins to settle down but started playing football, balls to feet, keeping possession and looking more like a team, certainly a lot more bad than good.
    Bywater took a fair bit of stick, a lot of it cringeworthy to be fair and based on the vermin connection. Agree with some of the points elsewhere that he could come out quicker to support his defence but that being said he pulled off a very good save one on one to Miller bursting through, still prefer Forde back in there asap. Not at fault for either goal.

    Defence on the whole played well Beevers and Robinson looked good together. Smith I thought was s*** tonight, didn't offer anything going forward and stood off their winger too much in defence. Malone had a good game, defended well but was impressive going forward, carried the ball well and rasped in a few good crosses and shots as well connecting well with the midfield, would definitely start him against Brighton on Saturday. Set pieces were generally defended well but the short corner for the first gave them the angle and movement for Derbyshire to find a bit of space and it was a good cross. Seen the replay for the second and didn't think anyone was particularly at fault at the time but looked like Robbo switched off.

    Midfield was a mixed bag, Bailey played well, looked fitter and good to see his fitness improving, passing was good cross field passes and had a few shots blocked as well. Jimmy was awful looked like he'd lost a yard of pace didn't close down as well he normally does and didn't look comfortable on the ball, was really hoping Lomas was going to swap him at half time for Chaplow but unfortunately never did. Feeney had a mixed game really, some good touches and crosses and quality strike for the goal but faded in and out, took a bit of stick from the mongs in our end as well when in reality he was taking stick for Smith who did him no favours, although that stopped after the goal. Woolford had a really good game, won a lot in the air from crossfield balls in the first half, helped out in defence and looked a goal threat as well, had one shot charged down in extra time and the half volley was only kept out by a veyr good flying save from the keeper, could have had a few more shots as well. Chaplow played well when he came on, first time I've seen him in the centre and he palyed well, made some good tackles and passing was very good, lots of stuff on the deck, looked sharp would defintely start him centrally on Saturday.

    Macdonald looked very sharp, really good outlet with the ball into his feet, held off and rolled their big centre halves a couple of times, clearly a very good footballer got involved and laid the ball off well, had a very good shot first half that their keeper produced another good save for and should have scored early second half, did everything right getting crating the oppurtunity then rolled it agonisingly wide. Martin played central and was busy, good with the ball at his feet but not a central attacker in my opinion. Marquis came on and was his normal running about and did produce some good touches into his feet ala Macdonald, but probably summed him up when he made a brilliant run chasing a long ball, kept it in on the byline in front of the centre half took it wide to bring others into play then drove it straight through our miidfield to the feet of their centre forward to set up an attack for them, got to be long way down the pecking order. I don't thnk Keogh had as bad a game as some are making out, he defended well from the front covering a lot of ground and kept showing for the ball into his feet and laid the ball off well, rolled his man a couple of times, the miss from close range was shocking but in anycase he was flagged offside so it wouldn't have counted anyway.

    Lomas was quite animated tonight, up and down from the dugout and stood for most of the game, disappointed he didn't bring on Chaplow for Jimmy but he did look like he was thinking ahead to Brighton and saving Baileys legs and to be fair the team continued playing well as the subs were like for like really. Was getting a bit of abuse but a lot of that was just s*** from complete fuckwits, had one sat behind me who just slagged off everything mainly Lomas and Bywater and couldn't even do that wth any coherent meaning, started slagging off Lomas for sitting down when he was up shouting, he hadn't even bothered looking over there.

    All in all it was a good night, I know it was a weakened Forest team but they were no mugs, passed the ball well and came forward in numbers which we coped well with and out passed them well at times. Gutted we lost but not gutted to be missing Burnley away! Hopefully we're turning a corner, would play Bailey and Chaplow in the centre and definitely Malone at LB on Saturday, just gutted I can't make it now.

    Ps. I know I slagged a few of our fans off and quite frankly they were mongs who clearly hadn't a f****** clue, but overall the support was good up there, good applause for the players afterwards for a gutsy performance and hopefully onwards and upwards

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    • August 29, 2013 at 09:55
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      @Old_Les: Good post Les.
      I know from previous comments from you that you’re not a Lomas fan but this really sounds promising for the next few games. I just hope that even if we don’t get anything from Saturday we can put the same (if not more) effort in for our next home game as they did for last night.

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    • August 29, 2013 at 10:06
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      @Old_Les: Great post Les hope it can calm a few of the hotheads down
      a bit.

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  • August 29, 2013 at 09:45
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    Good post Old Les, seems we did ok, looks like some of the so called deadwood could be giving SL some problems, some times its just a matter of confidence and playing time. This is why we need to give Lomas time. I personally dont care if it takes all season, as long as we seem to be going in the right direction. Lets face it, no point in doing a Wolves and keep changing your manager, they got relegated anyway. I really believe that he will turn this team around if he is given a chance, and the fans" Mongs " as Les rightly calls them will never be happy anyway !

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  • August 29, 2013 at 10:10
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    I suppose it is easy to be critical from behind a keyboard but football is a results business and when you don't get results it matters little how well a team plays. We're an impatient lot and the fact we have vermin laughing at us probably makes us even more impatient to get things turned around. Lomas will have less sympathy than a non-ex-vermin manager so he should be working double as hard and should spout out something original instead of the same old "keep the faith" bo1l0cks.

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  • August 29, 2013 at 10:38
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    About time all this vermin b******* was put to bed, f****** childish. I can understand a bit of local rivalry but this b******* has gone to far and is detriment to MFC. IMO

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    • August 29, 2013 at 13:02
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      @Sealion:
      I do sometimes wonder if Charlton and Palace supporters defect and find their way to websites like this.

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  • August 29, 2013 at 10:38
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    Plenty of teams been relegated despite playing well and having lots of shots at goal (most obviously missing). Still no clear sense of direction from Lomas it appears to me. Lose the next two and he has to go.

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    • August 29, 2013 at 11:00
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      @Old_Les: Plenty of teams get behind their manager through thick and thin and come out the other side a better team Les.... Wolves are as you mentioned played good football but got relegated and that might be down to the fact they changed their manager every month or 2..... another fantastic... incite full.... Positive piece of b*****ks from you as always Les, well done

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      • August 29, 2013 at 16:00
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        @Bradders: And yet another post from you that makes no sense. Are you Lomas in disguise?

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  • August 29, 2013 at 10:41
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    And I hope he does (win) and doesn't (go) because like all of us I want the club to succeed. Doesn't alter the fact I think Lomas is a clueless big headed t***** with all the talk and none of the do. - an opinion I shall be only to happen to retract should he prove otherwise.

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    • August 29, 2013 at 16:01
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      "too happy to retract" - sorry typo old age and arthritis

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