Millwall boss admits error after substituting striker Batt

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© Edmund Boyden

KENNY Jackett admitted he had made a mistake in substituting Shaun Batt in the 61st minute of Millwall's 1-0 defeat to Nottingham Forest on Saturday.

Lions fans voiced their frustration after Batt, who had battled admirably in a lone role up front, was withdrawn just after the hour mark and Jackett conceded afterwards their reaction was "justified."

He said: "I had my thinking in terms of managing Shaun because he's never quite been a 90-minute player. In hindsight I should have probably given him a go in a two for ten or 15 minutes.



"That is with hindsight at the end of the game. I have been pleased with Shaun since he came back from Leyton Orient – whether playing with a partner or as a lone striker.

"There's a misconception about playing one striker because it's not necessarily easier with two. You can throw as many people up there but the ball won't get to them if you don't control the midfield.

"But I have got to say the crowd's reaction to that subsitution was probably justified because Shaun did deserve a little bit longer in a different formation or combination."

Alex Aldridge

(@accordingtoaldo)

55 thoughts on “Millwall boss admits error after substituting striker Batt

  • April 28, 2013 at 10:26
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    Yeah well maybe you should be reading this forum more often to get an idea of what you should be doing, and we're not even professional football managers.

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    • April 28, 2013 at 10:35
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      Couldnt have said it better Nick.

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      • April 28, 2013 at 13:42
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        @mfc1rob: You two have got to be fkin joking.....

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        • April 29, 2013 at 08:29
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          Could not agree more lion.ie spot on, Batt was never going to be the answer, yes he runs a lot and goes to ground a lot looking for free kicks, but he is not a champioship player, but there are several others who are in the same catorgory as Shaun as well. If we do manage to stay up this season, i just think JK will only be postopning the drop for 1 season if there is not a major team reconstraction for next season.
          The board need to be clear on where they see our club being in the next few years and let us know so we can either get behind them or save some money and look to do something else on a Saturday afternoon for 9 months of the year.
          Surly they must want to put in a preformance tomorrow night , because if they dont then they might as well start the clearout before the Derby game and take a leaf out of Crews book and try some of the kids (they cant do any worse on some of our preformances recently).
          If any of the first team read News at Den i doubt it thou but if you do remember this is Millwall it means a lot to all of us even if it does not to you.

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    • April 28, 2013 at 15:15
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      @NICKOLA:
      Doubt anyone on here could do a better job than kj. Especially a bird.

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      • April 28, 2013 at 15:21
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        Anyone on here could do a better job at the moment and that would also include my wife who knows nothing about football. Hey, hang on a minute .......@westlion:

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  • April 28, 2013 at 10:42
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    Had enough of all of this, just no passion in this squad. Can remember from a young age no matter the result the players would be clapped off and they'd clap back. Now I can only count 2 players in the squad! Beevers and Chris Taylor. Think KJ made the fatal mistake of getting rid of 'reall Wall' to quickly, I'd even count Scott Barron in that too!

    Think we are safe but only just, this summer will be very interesting....

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    • April 29, 2013 at 17:17
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      @Omer Ronayne:
      Always lked Barrons atttude. He may noy have been a gifted player but put in a shift as did Tony Craig. Both were got rid of too soon. I would even list Alexander and Harris in that

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  • April 28, 2013 at 10:44
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    AT LAST HE HAS STARTED TO OWN UP TO HIS MISTAKES ,
    THATS ALL PEOPLE WANT BE HONEST , WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES,
    NOW KJ LETS MAKE SURE U GET IT RIGHT TUES ITS A DERBY GAME .

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    • April 28, 2013 at 12:48
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      Exactly, we've all had our say - now lets put our frustrations to one side and get behind KJ and the team on Tuesday. Palace will be just as tired as us from Saturday, so no excuses. We all know that if we create a proper Millwall atmosphere, those stripey nigels will wilt. COYL!!!!

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    • April 28, 2013 at 16:44
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      Here,fcuking here.
      An apology at last, as lame as it is an apology all the same.
      I'm sorry to be a damp sqid lads but its too little too late.

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  • April 28, 2013 at 10:44
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    I have nothing but respect for kj,he's a decent bloke who has given us over 5 years of service HOWEVER the squad he has asembled this season is shocking and the tactics he has adopted shocking too. over the past couple of weeks theres been constant excuses but the blame lies with him,yes I know he has had a p*** poor budget to work with yet again but the players he has brought in this year are some of the worst I have ever seen in a wall shirt.Even the lesser teams below us have decent strickers who are comfortably in double figures for the season so there's no excuses.Apart from clearing out the deadwood were gonna have to try and raise some money by offloading some players that might be worth a couple of quid and rebuild the squad

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    • April 28, 2013 at 12:56
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      Keep in mind that what you are seeing is the bare bones of our squad - think of all the first team players that have been suspended or injured last weekend: Lowry, Shittu, Robinson, Trotter, Taylor, Afobe, Chaplow.

      KJ has always had a good eye for a player, particularly within our budget (can't think of anyone better?) - he has been plagued with injury problems this season. The positive thing is, IF we stay up, he and JB have now seen first hand what happens when our squad is thin and we don't have the players we need to win games.

      Get behind the team on Tuesday, because if we stay up - im pretty sure we will be more active in the transfer market than ever over the summer!

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  • April 28, 2013 at 10:56
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    LIKE BATTS THE ANSWER ANYWAY, HE'S A SUNDAY LEAGUE PLAYER, TURN IT IN JACKETT, THE LIKES OF BATT AND MARQUIS SHOULDN'T BE ANYWHERE NEAR OUR BELOVED MILLWALL SQUAD, WE HAVE BECOMING A LAUGHING STOCK IF OUR BIGGEST WORRY IS BATT BEING SUBBED! DON'T AGREE WE ARE SAFE, IF PALACE BEAT US WHICH I EXPECT THEM TO THEY WILL HAVE NOTHING TO PLAY FOR AGAINST POSH AND WILL REST PLAYERS FOR PLAYOFFS TO SEND US DOWN! BAD BAD TIMES

    JACKETT OUT

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    • April 28, 2013 at 12:59
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      If either Barnsley or Posh lose, we stay up - right? Both have away games against decent teams. We also have to go away to Derby - who have nothing to play for - I'd be far more worried if I were in Posh, Barnsley's or Wolves' shoes!

      We've not been great, but keep the faith - COYL!

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      • April 28, 2013 at 14:14
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        Well, I don't think Barnsley or Peterborough are going to lose their last game but I'm very sure we are.
        3 points needed Tuesday anything else is going to see us in League One.
        @StanLDN:

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        • April 28, 2013 at 16:38
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          @NICKOLA: So you think we are more likely to beat Palace than we are a team 3 pts above us? I can't see an in-form Huddersfield getting beat at home. Also, if we draw on Tuesday, Palace will need a win at home on Saturday - who are they playing? Peterborough. A draw will do us. Too much scare mongering.

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          • April 28, 2013 at 16:42
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            Don't agree. We'll see who's right soon enough.@StanLDN:

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          • April 28, 2013 at 17:07
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            @StanLDN: scare mongering?! We are ONE point from league one if you hadn't noticed. People who have had their heads stuck up KJ's a*** have only just realised the s*** we're in.

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      • April 28, 2013 at 21:24
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        @StanLDN: Posh and Barnsley score for fun......we just don't score enough to win a game ..... I really hope you are right

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  • April 28, 2013 at 11:10
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    To much tinkering going on, trying to find all these 'player combinations'. We've been unlucky with injuries meaning we havent had a settled team, granted. But I feel we should've primarily been a 4-4-2 and given ourselves a better percentage chance of nicking a few of those tighter games.

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    • April 28, 2013 at 12:35
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      @Swanny: I agree that we look much better attacking threat as 442 but you can't be so predictable every game. It is right to have different formations up your sleeve, biggest problem we have us that our CM personnel are capable of executing the plan. Some of that blame lies with the players and their attitude and some with the management. I think KJ an turn this round but there will need to be some players out and he will have to make some bloody good signings this Summer. KJ has that ability to find rough diamonds, time he got back to basics and do what he is best at. In KJ I still trust.

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  • April 28, 2013 at 13:28
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    Saying I'm a pessimist is an understatement yet I'm quietly confident about Tuesday, as long as we play the right team/formation. Remember we have Shittu & Lowry back. I'd have (4-4-2) Forde; A. Smith, Shittu, Beevers, Lowry; Henry, Wright, Abdou, Feeney; Keogh, Batt. We can't afford to play too many loan players as we can't trust their whole hearts are there. Also we must take the game to Palace, they're in s*** form and we are at home, frighten them early and we won't lose. Just hope KJ tells them how HUGE this game is.

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  • April 28, 2013 at 13:40
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    F*** other results we need a win or we go down simple as that might scrape through with a draw, we need or fringe squad of s**** to show some arshole Tuesday and get stuck in do or die.

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  • April 28, 2013 at 13:44
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    The "best passer of a ball at the club" is on the bench yet we have "no creativity."

    No natural wide left player. Where was Woolford?

    No proper left sided player. Why no Malone?

    Three players signed by KJ yet none can get in the side before a 19 year old Chelsea loanee clearly out of his depth and lightweight. One for the future perhaps but not one for getting a team out of a tight spot.

    Not a single "leader" on the pitch.

    Shaun Batt (not an especially good player) taken off when he was the only one causing problems to Forest.

    Is Nathan Tyson a professional footballer or an imposter? No touch, no skill, no strength, no influence.

    Jimi Abdou ("my best signing ever" said KJ) chasing shadows as he has been for Lord knows how long.

    All the above are the doing of Kenny Jackett no one else. If you take the plaudits when it's going well then take the flak when it isn't.

    Sometimes you're in a job for so long the employees don't hear you anymore and sometimes you yourself lose a bit of interest, drive and your edge. Natural and normal human behaviour but it can get football teams relegated.

    That would be a very sad legacy for Kenny Jackett - dumping us back exactly where he started.

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    • April 28, 2013 at 18:45
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      Don't know where Jackett will be come Sunday but I have my hopes.
      Woolford and the others....You know who you are............will be gracing Mansfield or Luton next season I hope.
      @Old_Les:

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    • April 28, 2013 at 21:26
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      @Old_Les: The best passer wasn't even on the bench....that's Trotter trouble is he don't like us and he don't care

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  • April 28, 2013 at 18:33
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    It's a shame that it comes down to us begging others for a result but unfortunately that's where we are right now. Above someone said about palARSE playing Peterborough, well palARSE WILL beat us Tuesday and make their playoff spot safe and come Saturday they will do us no favours what so ever.
    I really like KJ, but the buck stops with him.
    He has a small budget but a budget all the same. He identifies a hit list 1st 2nd and 3rd choice judging by what we have had probably 3 loans have been 1st choice wood afobe chaplow. st ledger cause he was needed. Hulse Tyson 3rd choice cause he couldn't get 1st or 2nd choice perm signings. But the signings of savile and woolford are two I'll never understand. What's the point of savile ? Other than to try someone else on the left. Woolford will go down as his worst perm signing hulse his worst ever. Guys I don't want him out but he assembles the squad and chooses his starting 11 and formations and lets face it they've been p*** poor, I appreciate injuries and suspensions have gone against us but this is not fare on the regular 8-9000 who are there loyalty every week. Even the apology is too late and backhanded. The answer is obvious and we've all said it the past month or so. 442 at home 433 away and players playing in position but it means nothing now as we're down. Forget about others helping us we can't help ourselves. What a shambles.

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    • April 28, 2013 at 19:16
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      @lukesmithmfc: Not you as well Luke? A lot needs to happen for us to go down, it might well happen, but I'd bet against it every time. But at least your comments are well thought out mate. I reckon KJ will learn more from these last few months than he has from the last five years. At the end of the day he is a former international footballer and now an experienced and qualified coach and I guarantee he is spending 24/7 trying to sort out the mess he finds us in.
      People on here think it's just about picking 11 players and sticking them in a formation. If it were that simple Nigel Pearson and his like would have their expensively assembled and well paid squads at the top of the table right now. Somebody else said that the 'bottom line' was our game against Palace and their game against PB, the bottom line is where we are at the end of 46 games, not 44.
      If KJ was as defeatist and as ready to throw in the towel as a lot of contributors to this site, we'd be down already. Come on you Lions, three points against Palace to help fk up their season would make all the recent disappointment worthwhile.

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      • April 28, 2013 at 19:36
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        @lion.ie: Well said Lion; can't say I have your confidence in staying up, but everything else you say I agree with 100%. Come on Smithy, don't waiver now mate!!!!

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        • April 28, 2013 at 20:05
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          Sorry guys I'm just being realistic about who what where we are. You both remember Bottlegate and you've seen the officials decisions since we said that would happen but what we didnt want to happen was wembley and the refs will be worse the last two games and that we can guarentee. It's those reasons I believe we're down. Ofcourse I don't want us down and KJ to go but IMO we'll be lucky for one if not both to happen

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          • April 29, 2013 at 00:10
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            @lukesmithmfc: KJ might go even if we stay up, he might just be fed up with managing on a shoe string with all the s*** that comes with it and take a better offer. We can all look forward to the Aidy Boothroyd/Micky Adams/Michael Appleton/McInnes era then.

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          • April 29, 2013 at 07:57
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            I hope your wrong. I did threat when the Forrest Blackburn and Blackpool jobs came up earlier this season, but I honestly hope he stays, we stay up and JB gives him extra funds along with the untouched transfer kitty from January. A player or two maybe sold, I hope for a couple quid. Get the injured fit, get some more scouts and have a serious look into these regular injuries cause they really ain't coincidental.
            If he goes then ill have to agree with you maybe not those names but definately as bad.

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  • April 28, 2013 at 18:34
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    Time for a change of both managerial and playing staff this summer. The only player who appears to have improved this season in my opinion is David Forde. Kevin Pressman appears to have got an extra 10% from him. Whilst some others have had steady to good form at times , few have really taken any responsibility. We need players who fit into a role and played there week in week out. Too many loanees , too many players out of natural position , too many home defeats. All in all, a really poor season ( Cup run aside ) . Big investments are needed next season desperately

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  • April 28, 2013 at 19:09
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    It is worth noting that the beagles will have something to play for against posh if they beat us. They will still be in with an outside chance of finishing fourth which means they would play the second leg of the play off semi-final at home.

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    • April 28, 2013 at 20:29
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      A slight ray of hope Barnsley must win at Huddersfield.
      Huddersfield are not mathmatically safe so they have to get a point from the game which will suit us.
      I also think that it may be a derby game so HTFC have it all to play for thank f***.
      So we may not have to depend on the nigels getting anything from their game.
      Mind you to be honest we don't deserve to escape, the way we have played lately.
      There does seem to be a lot of dis harmony at the club at the moment, losing becomes a habit as does winning, its a mindset.
      As I often state I am a Kenny supporter,I remember only to well the dark days before Kenny and those days are not far away when he leaves, but he must shoulder a lot of the blame due to his selection policies and tactics. I know we have had a lot of injuries and suspensions to contend with but nothing demoralises a player more than being constantly played out of position, The players must also accept their share of the blame, of our recent home losses all by a single goal we have conceded 4 goals from set pieces (3 from corners ffs) + the pen, it wasn't Kenny that let the fat b****** run 70 yards without even putting a tackle in. We have thrown away so many priceless points in the last month alone due to schoolboy errors.But as I say all is not quite lost yet but I don't think we will get anything out of our games. come on Huddersfield .

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  • April 28, 2013 at 19:30
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    How quickly some people forget and how far are some people from reality? This season when Smith (Adam) and Chris Wood were the be all and end all, KJ was being praised for assembling the best squad we had in years. Now all of a sudden they're all donkeys and Jackett's useless. It makes me sad that for all the good KJ and JB have done for our club, first sign of trouble and they get accused of this that and the other, IMO some of you need to wake up. I tell you what, if you think we're in trouble now, see what happens if they decide they've had enough. All the moaning on here about Wembley tickets and for the last two vital home games the attendance has been poor. I don't buy 'well if the team was better'; it was the same 11 'donkeys' playing at Wembley. Even some of the strikers some of you have suggested buying, Pope, Donaldson, McLean, Russell, they're not proven at this level, we could of spent a lot of money and ended up with a pile of s***, worse than the pile of s*** we got for nothing (THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE AVAILABLE). IMO our season swung on Chris Wood deciding not to sign for us, compounded with a loss of form from key players and injuries to others. Forget how some of them have played this season but how's this for a possible matchday squad; Forde, Lowry, A.Smith, Beevers, Shittu, Taylor, Trotter, Chaplow, Henry, Wood, Afobe; Subs; Taylor, Robinson, St Ledger, Keogh, Abdou, J. Smith. I'd be happy if we went out every week with that team. We need to stick together, back the team we put out, back the manager and the Manager and the Chairman, and hope to God we can stay in this division. We all, including the management know where we have come up short this season and I'm sure that next season we will be stronger for this experience. COYL

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    • April 28, 2013 at 19:37
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      @Adsy77777:

      I don't think anyone has said they're all donkeys or that Jackett is useless.

      People have expressed their entitled opinion though but I do realise you know everything so I doff my cap and bend my knee.

      I would though like you to explain the cleverness that brought us 7 non scoring strikers though - do you think that was just a blip, bad luck or what. In fact just explain 5 because Keogh and Easter are decent players though they will never work as a front partnership.

      As for being stronger next season for the experience we could have said exactly the same last time.

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      • April 28, 2013 at 19:58
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        @Old_Les: When Chris Wood decided at the last minute not to sign, we were left up s*** creek. Henderson's move had already been sanctioned to free up the wages. We were then left trying to sign TWO strikers in a sellers market. Kane turned us down, Morison was sold to Leeds, Afobe came and got injured, McLean and McGoldrick turned us down. KJ signed Hulse, Tyson and Easter because they were available and within our budget. Keogh has lost all confidence and form. Batt, N'guessan and Marquis were squad players, but because of injuries, loss of form or lack of talent where asked to be the main men but are obviously not up to it. There you go Les, even you should be able to grasp that.

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        • April 28, 2013 at 20:37
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          No, No and No. Morison was sold long before all that happened. What we didn't do was to sign Wood when we had the chance ie: before everyone became aware he was what we needed. Kane would have followed. Hulse, Tyson and Easter came here because no-one else wanted them, end of.
          Easter scored at Charlton but that didn't and doesn't make him Millwall striker material.
          The bottom line is that 90% of our signings this season have been crap, are now crap and always will be crap. Those percentages are a reflection of the manager and the scouts. Ther's now getting away from that.@Adsy77777:

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          • April 28, 2013 at 20:58
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            @NICKOLA: We tried to get Morison on loan from Norwich when the Wood move fell through but Norwich wanted to use him to get Becchio is what I was referring to. WBA fannied us about with Wood, accepting offers and then upping it, as has been said before, Wood told all the players and manager that he wanted to stay here, then chose leicester at the last minute, leaving us up the creek. Kane (and or Spurs) also thought leicester were the better option (and look how it's turned out for them with Wood and Kane and despite all their money). Yes, Hulse, Tyson and Easter were available - apparently other championship clubs were in for Hulse and Easter and yes, Easter apart (not great but acceptable compared to the other two) they turned out to be absolute pony. I can't agree that 90% of our signings have been crap; Tyson, Hulse and Malone - yes - but how can you say Beevers, Shittu, Chaplow, Afobe and Adam Smith have been crap?

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        • April 29, 2013 at 09:43
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          @Adsy77777:

          Chris Wood didn't decide not to sign at the last minute.
          Jackett had wanted rid of Henderson ever since the night club punch up but for no sensible football reason
          There wasn't ever a chance of Morison coming back and the club knew it and the same for Kane, McLean was always a doubtful signing and McGoldrick a done deal elsewhere.
          Unless you have a personal hotline to Kenny Jackett and the Millwall board then my sources are every bit as good as yours - possibly even better who knows. Possibly lots of b***** both sides.

          What is indisputable is that KJ was officially quoted as saying he'd "been after Tyson a long time" and Ambler indicated it was with a view to permanent. Very very poor judgement in my opinion of the worth of a player not wanted by rivals and named Tampax by Derby fans- one week in three weeks out.
          Hulse, depending on who you believe, is on 8K or 10K a week and no one will ever convince me that the club couldn't have got in far better than that idle waste of space if they had that sort of wage to throw around.
          Whatever I may or may not think of Kenny Jackett his handling of our goalscoring requirements has been a disaster.

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      • April 28, 2013 at 20:44
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        @Old_Les: Although the forwards haven't been performing I think a lot of the blame must be down to the midfield who have been creating so few chances and giving the front men no support. Who is the play maker, Abdou, Smith, St Leger, The invisible Man (trotter)?

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    • April 29, 2013 at 17:24
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      @Adsy77777:
      Could not agree more and f the crowd turn up tomorrow night think we could Palace.

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  • April 28, 2013 at 19:34
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    For the palace game, I think I would do something different. Fordey has been outstanding, so no change there, Dunney, beevers, shittu, lowry ....any midfield 4 you like but must include Feeney, who has been very very lively, then I would play Trotts up front (big, strong, can hold the ball up, pass, shoot and score), with one of either Keogh or Easter (still not convinced on Batt), playing off him. Worth a try in my view.

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  • April 28, 2013 at 19:37
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    Never mind KJ only 2 more games for you to F*** up you could always put Forde at centre forward and play with no keeper it would be in keeping with your s*** line ups,lets face it semi final fodder with that game and every other game since we may only be the fans but we pay yours and the players wages,and we know maybe just a little bit more than you give us credit,the only stupid thing has been our loyalty to you and this team up to now.the 8/9 k gates will soon become 5/6k thanks for nothing you haven't addressed the problems that were there 15 games back bows to late Bye.

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    • April 28, 2013 at 20:47
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      @southstand: Could then put Trotter in goal as he don't like running, heading or tackling.

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  • April 28, 2013 at 19:41
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    I keep telling myself before practically every recent home game that a DRAW will do us and then we go and get bugger all.
    Well guess what, a draw won't bloody do us, we need to WIN on Tuesday!?
    Sort it Lions , now!

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  • April 28, 2013 at 20:53
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    You know what? Cards on the table time. Forget about all the politics involved here, and what players we would like to see play on Tuesday. I've seen hardened Jackett followers recently have a change of heart and nothing but gripes and animosity-me included-about this current Millwall squad and manager. At the end of the day, what I think we can all agree on is that we love Millwall and we all want to see a win on Tuesday night because I really, really believe that is what we need to stay up. So, let's all push in the same direction, cheer them on and worry about 'what if's' after the game.
    Never thought I'd say that but Millwall are so important to me that I'll stay off here until Tuesday night to keep the peace and hopefully see 3 points.

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    • April 28, 2013 at 20:59
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      @NICKOLA: With you there Nick for once lol.

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      • April 28, 2013 at 23:08
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        really nick, would you, please. That's great what a gent. You'd really do that for us. Don't believe ya. Hahahaha lol.
        Your like the the rest of us nick, I bet if your wife read that she'll hold you to it.
        If my wife read it she'd want me to do it too.
        I agree with what your saying though mate but cause its palARSE at home and they've sold out there's no question about the once in a while 4-5000 turning up I reckon we're looking at a near on full hse or at least same as Charlton at home. I don't know what team he's gonna put out Easter can't play and wouldn't be surprised if trotts don't play. I don't think it's a game for savile. My worry is holloway, I can't remember the last time we beat one of his teams home or away, I've got Blackpool away a couple yrs back when they went up. I'm done with predictive optimism, every game KJ springs a surprise on us. I've run out of ideas as to what's best and I don't get paid to pick it and I haven't got a fcuking clue what's happening on the training ground and I don't have any amazing information about what's going on behind the scenes in directors boxes laundry rooms or the boot room. It all means f*** all. I just know KJ and the boys owe us a performance of their lives on Tuesday night none of the performances some of the players have come out recently and deemed acceptable. Jack smith is the only one to come out and say it how it is. Statistics and statistions can f*** right off aswel. Forget all the b*******. It comes down to plain and simple basic football, no team talk is good enough. if these players can't grasp what's needed from them then we're doomed.
        One game one result infront of our home fans. If I was JB or KJ i'd scrap the usual end of season b***** aswel until after the game or scrap it full stop cause there's only one thing I want to listen to and we all know what that is don't we boys? A bit of ROCKING ALL OVER THE WORLD. That's the only thing that matters right now. Announcer, clean that vinyl son it may just well be needed.

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  • April 29, 2013 at 07:25
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    Against palace we need be together crowd, jackett, players, remember that documentary video of that local nutter, an the abuse he was giving, we have had a hard time, with officials, and offfield image, remove opinions and modern football and just backs against the walls the Millwall way lets get all this angry and Stress out into a positive performance.

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    • April 29, 2013 at 08:03
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      I like it bush. Lets see where it gets us cause you can guarentee that's what's happening Tuesday night. Everybody knows what's expected regardless of the posts on here

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  • April 29, 2013 at 11:09
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    I think it has been very frustrating this season for us.
    KJ is the first one to see what went wrong when we lose, comments on it every game and then does nothing about it
    its also the same comments 'we lacked determination' 'we need goals' - this is just basic analysis of the game
    anyone can see what has gone wrong in a game

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  • April 29, 2013 at 17:25
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    I really hope the crowd turn up tomorrow night and make it a real derby day. Palace are not that good and if the tractor boys can do them 3-0 then so can we.COYL

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