Millwall's Harris: It wasn't an easy decision to drop Forde

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NEIL Harris said it was a “tough decision” to drop David Forde before the 0-0 draw with Scunthorpe at Glanford Park.

Harris handed Jordan Archer his first league start for the Lions and was rewarded when the keeper made a string of important saves.

The former Tottenham keeper produced arguably the best of them when he denied Paddy Madden in a one-on-one early in the first half.

Harris said: “Every decision is tough. Picking the team isn’t always easy, as I’m finding out.

“I’ll get some wrong during the season and I’ll get a lot right.

“I’ll focus on the positives, which was that the 11 players and the boys that came off the bench were terrific.

“Jordan has made a couple of good saves and they missed a penalty, but we had lots of chances as well.

“Steve Morison hit the post in injury-time and that summed it up for both benches, that it was going to be a nil-nil.”

The Millwall boss altered his formation for the game, opting to pick a three-man midfield as the Lions kept their first clean sheet of the season.

Ben Thompson also made his full league debut after two impressive appearances as a substitute against Coventry and Barnsley.

“Ben is one of our top young players,” Harris said. “He has done really well in the last two games coming off the bench, but just because you do well off the bench you can’t presume they’ll do really well starting.

“You have to be patient and pick them at the right time, and we got that right today with Ben.

“It helps having the experience of Shaun (Williams) and Jimmy (Abdou) in there and we went with the three because at the moment teams are playing three-man midfields against us.

“We went with energy in there and control in the middle of the park, and I also wanted to play with three strikers.”

John Kelly

(@jkelly1882)

32 thoughts on “Millwall's Harris: It wasn't an easy decision to drop Forde

  • August 22, 2015 at 18:07
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    Well played Archer and Thompson. Sorry to see Forde career going backwards because he's been a great servant to this club.

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    • August 22, 2015 at 19:00
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      @NPEgentlemansclub: I agree NPE. I don't understand why people put Forde down, yes he had to be replaced but how quick people forget, wasn't too long ago when Fordey Fordey could be heard around the ground.

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      • August 22, 2015 at 19:05
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        @john H: Sounds like you want us to go down again not to hurt Fordes feelings.Or are you a relative?

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        • August 22, 2015 at 21:38
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          @baz2262: All these people saying how quick we forget,let's have it right he wasn't playing for nothing he was well paid and just doing his job,if this club carries on on sentiment we will soon be playing non league.

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        • August 22, 2015 at 22:01
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          @baz2262: not at all baz if you read my post it says I agree that Forde should be replaced what I don't agree with is people disrespecting the man. When I saw Archer was in for Forde I was as happy as anyone because I thought he will do a better job. I'm not sentimental at all Forde has done well and been paid well now he's not doing so well but I guess he still above the poverty line. ;)

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      • August 22, 2015 at 22:29
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        @john H:
        Spot on. Some of the abuse aimed at someone who has been a great servant to us is a disgrace. I would suggest a few of our so called supporters read the mike Calvin book and they might learn a thing or 2 about our club and some of the individuals they have slagged off over the last few seasons. Blokes like dunne and forde who have given 100% over the years for millwall and have been leaders and stood up to be counted on many occasions. Why not just wish the bloke well instead of aiming a load of bile and abuse at him.

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        • August 22, 2015 at 23:42
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          @82wall: I do wish him well,but when,like he has done played below par for the last two year's,people [me included] are going to get on his back,the same can be said about Dunne,You have a lot to say and give abuse to other poster's that give their opinion's.so i want to ask you a couple of question's.
          How long would you have gone on picking both Forde and Dunne ?.
          Or how long ago would you have dropped either of them ?.
          PS i know Dunne is not here any more.

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          • August 23, 2015 at 00:00
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            @jim1222:
            Abuse? If I think someone's talking rubbish, I'll come out and say it. That doesn't mean what I'm saying is necessarily correct, but its my opinion. There are too many sheep on here who's opinions are swayed by others, and it helps to spread negativity, which doesn't help our players or our situation. Did you listen to morison on lions live? If not, I would suggest you do, as he says a few home truths to the fans and in my opinion, he's spot on. And its irrelevant weather I would of picked forde or dunne, because the debate isn't about that. The facts are, they have both been part of some good times and bad times but have never hid or shirked responsibility, Infact they have both stood up to be counted on many occasions. For what it's worth though I'll give you an answer. Forde has needed competition for 2 seasons, that's part of the reason he has gone down hill, and obviously because he is getting older. Dunne has been a cracking squad player over the years and his time at the club came to an end at the right time. How many managers have tried to replace him, only to go on and pick him again? Like I say, it's not about their ability, it's about showing some respect for 2 very good servants to millwall. Something that is going to be very rare soon in the future. Sorry if you don't like my attitude towards certain people, and sorry if you don't like my comments. I couldn't care less to be honest though, maybe people should educate themselves about 'their' club before they spout so much s***. Like all that JB's stuff the other day, hands up how many people knew half the things I came out with? Probably not many on here. That's not me thinking im special, or me having special inside info, it's because I assert myself with facts before I speak and I happen to know a hell of a lot about the club I follow up and down this s*** hole of a country every single weekend.

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  • August 22, 2015 at 18:32
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    Well done Neil - Forde is finished - not interested and the cause of a lot of our problems last season and the start of this one - hope he leaves soon

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  • August 22, 2015 at 19:01
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    For me forde should never had been played again,he clearly wanted away firstly supposedly Celtic wanted him nothing came of that then a new contract so he could bide his time then this year Fulham supposedly wanted him both all agent b******* he hasn't wanted to be here for two years and it shows.No room for sentiment he's been well paid for playing for this club time to ship him out and it'll be interesting to see where to,my guess is it won't be up a division or a Scottish club.

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  • August 22, 2015 at 19:01
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    I salute archer if forde was in goal 2day it would of been a cricket score not taking the p*** but he time is up at our beloved club thanks 4 every think u done it the past but forde hang up ur boots and be a coach 4 our beloved club COYL

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  • August 22, 2015 at 19:54
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    It may have been a hard decision but it was the right decision.

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  • August 22, 2015 at 19:54
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    There comes a time in life when you have to realise it right to hand over to the next generation ,thank You Mr Forde for your past endeavours and wish you all best for the future.

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  • August 22, 2015 at 20:05
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    A good call by NH to drop Forde.
    Forde has gone from hero to zero. When he won player of the year it was well deserved, I remember watching him play for Ireland against England and if it was not for him we (England) would have won easily instead of drawing 1-1.
    However last season and at the beginning of this, he has looked as effective as a stopper as the French police have been in Calais. I take the Celtic interest with a pinch of salt too, Jesus I could play in goal for Celtic, less work than a lazy council worker, an ideal way to finish for someone of his age. So lets see what happens now. He is still under contract and the window is still open, will he shape up or get some scum, see you next Tuesday, agent to get him out of here? NH's decision today has now forced the issue...................

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  • August 22, 2015 at 20:54
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    As far as I'm concerned Harris was 100% right to drop forde as I was getting worried he only cared about protecting his mates who are still in the game. As for forde he shouldn't be given another chance until archer makes a mistake and then see if his time on the bench has sorted his head out or if he's still in bad form back to the bench or out. He has still been a great player for this club and can be great again but as of recently this has not been the case and calls to sell him are dumb the initial problem is sorted now with archer and dropping forde can only be a win win for us. We either get a very good keeper return to his best form or we keep archer a young talented keeper in goal and forde leaves and we free up ALOT of wages.

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  • August 22, 2015 at 22:50
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    Goodbye cilla from all your Millwall fans we luv ya goodbye chuck your like will never be seen again luv ya bab xxx

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  • August 23, 2015 at 00:48
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    Now fordey has been dropped..i'am just wondering who's gonna be next on the slagging list..count on it there will be a scapegoat

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  • August 23, 2015 at 00:54
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    @82 wall A typical politician's answer,i ask two question.s and did not get straight answer's.
    As for dunne he should have gone two year's ago and the only reason he got picked is because we had no one any better,that is not to say he was any good.
    As for Forde yes like Dunne he has played well in the past but like Dunne lost his ability a few year's ago,oh and look how this great servant went about getting his three or was it four year contract.
    Just for good measure the Wage's these player's are on now day's being a good servent does not come into it if either of these two player's had got better offer.s from other club's they would have gone,and i would accept that because they are pro.s,what i dont accept is this what a great servant they have been.
    The reason some dont like what you write is because you come across as being very condescending ,in fact you come across as being so far up your own backside it's not true.
    On the point of going up and down our s*** country of our's [ i think it's a fantastic country but we all have our own opinion's] so do many other's so good luck to you and those other fan's,but that dont make you any better than any other fan ,the fact that you are more articulate than most on here mean's you should have a bit more understanding of their short coming's.
    Most of us on here have a bit of banter,but some people on here find it hard to articulate what they want to get across in a few short sentence's.[myself included].so should we not accept what they say in good faith and with a smile when we dont agree with them.
    You even had a pop at john kelly for a few grammar error's,.
    Please dont take this personally,but it's not just me that you annoy.

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    • August 23, 2015 at 06:32
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      @jim1222:
      Forde- I think should still be here but now he's lost the no1 (it would seem) he will have to work his a*** off and wait until archers form really drops off before he is given another go. I would of signed better back up/competition for him 2 years ago.
      Dunne- served his purpose and left at the right time for us as a club as we are now looking to the future. If we want to progress, people like him are not the answer. I would of got rid at the same time harris did. You asked me what Id do if I was manager, hope that clears it up. Not sure why it matters so much. You've used it as a half clever attempt to divert from the main point. It's not about when YOU or ME think they should of gone. It's about whe dunne DID leave and what he had achieved up until that point with us. As for forde, he's still our player and doesn't deserve the abuse some idiots throw at him. As for all the other stuff, I couldn't care less mate. I know how to have a laugh im just not into slagging off loyal club servants, or talking a load of rubbish about one of the best chairman the club has ever had, when I don't even know the facts. That's what winds you up, the fact I argue my point and it actually makes sense(because i get my facts straight before I speak), unlike most people on here(sheep) who will just come out with stuff that blatantly isn't true. We all as fans ask for players who will give 100% every game. Everyone is having a pop at the current players like williams for example, because they don't think he tries hard enough. Well, dunne and forde have always given nothing less than 100% effort for millwall everytime they pulled on the shirt, yet the same people who want 'passion, and hard work', talk rubbish and s*** off them 2 (forde and dunne) because they don't think they are good enough. C U N T is a word that should be reserved for wage theives like Justin hoyte, Steven bywater, Danny nguessen, rob hulse, Chaplow, etc etc. Not for blokes like forde and dunne. Some people need to learn the old school values this clubs supporters (in the main) stand by. Also there's a thing called respect and some people on here wouldnt know it if it smacked them in the face. I'll carry on saying what I like thank you very much. The only people offended are those who are abit on the uneducated side(when it comes to millwall), so it's water off a ducks back. As for having a pop at john Kelly, Im not a grammar snob I swear nearly every other word and I'm not up my own a*** at all. I just can't stand people spouting lies about the club, or slagging people off(who don't deserve it). I hope I haven't annoyed you again, and don't worry, I dont take it personal, say what you like.

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      • August 23, 2015 at 06:48
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        @82wall:
        Just to add I wasn't saying john Kelly was spouting lies, I meant some people on here. The time i mentioned his grammar was when I read 3 articles in a row that a were full of errors, that was all. Not that it matters now or anyone cares. It sounds like you (jim1222) need to not let me get to you so much. Your having pop at me because I have put a few people right on certain matters, and because ive supported our chairman and 2 loyal players. You crack on with your 'banter' as you say, and I'll stick to 'annoying people' with abit of insight. Next time I get abit of info (like williams and Beevers storming out of the ground last week, PCH and Martin having a bust up, Ambler going into give a team talk) I'll just keep it to myself, because I know f*** all that's worth saying on here.

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        • August 23, 2015 at 12:29
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          @82wall:
          First you do not wind me up,people with your type of attitude i treat with a little contempt,as i have already said on here you treat people as though your view is the be all and end all,by all mean's convey to us all what your view's and new's is,and because some people may or may not be sheep AINT THEIR FAULT it's just the way they are and at the end of the day.
          Now let me comment on the piece of new's that William's and Beaver's stormed out the ground.
          Beaver's IMO may have some thing to b**** about but William,s IMO does not,William's give's me the impression he does not want to be here.
          As for the information you may gleen from Mr ambler and the board,do you honestly think they are going to tell you anything other than what they want you to know.
          On a previous thread i stated i wanted to Mr ambler to get a certain player signed and sealed properly ,you came straight back at me in your condescending manner telling me it was all down to NH ,when i pointed out that at the end of the day it is the board who have the final say,you did not even bother to reply,rudeness in it's self or am i one of your so called sheep.
          You can defend this board all you like but their decision.s over the last few year's have left a lot to be desired,as for JB i met him along with Heather a few year's ago when we played at Orient ,
          He came across as an absolute decent man and yes he has put a lot of money in,yes he most likely has saved this club,but we have been on a slippery slope for some year's for which AA and JB bear some responsability,so as a season ticket holder and life long suppoerter of 64 year.s i think i can have my say,just like i did with Dunne and Forde,and i do not expect to be lumped in with your view we are all sheep because we have a different view from yourself.
          Last if some one on here answer me when i say something on here,i answer them and clarify my point's,not to is rude.You said earlier that i might be wound up by what you say you are wrong,IF any thing wind's me up it's what you did not say,ie failure to answer my reply to you,but that is by the by.
          From now on i shall treat your comment's with the contempt they deserve and not bother to read them,the sheep are more my kind of people.

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          • August 23, 2015 at 12:42
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            @jim1222: Nice 1Jim

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          • August 23, 2015 at 20:25
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            @jim1222:

            What a load of old waffle. Your just talking rubbish mate. I don't get told nothing by our board, Infact i don't personally know any of them. Yet again your guessing and not coming out with anything factual. Your missing the whole point. This is about people slagging off players and staff who don't deserve it. Blokes who have been at the club (dunne) longer than some mugs slaggin them off have even supported us. And chairman like JB who cover 8 million losses per year. Players like forde who have had the whole ground singing his name many many times. Your waffling mate and you make no sense. Your clearly lacking in millwall knowledge and the only reason you have the hump is because I clealy know more than you. I'm not up my own a***, people like you are just clueless. Get to know your club and stop twisting the argument.

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          • August 23, 2015 at 20:29
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            @jim1222:
            Oh , and as for the transfer situation. NEIL HARRIS has final say on if we go for a player or not. That is a fact weather you like it or not. The players that get identified are in the main, within our budget. Ambler does the negotiations, he doesn't decide who we approach.

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      • August 25, 2015 at 11:48
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        @82wall: you talk utter s,h.1.t and think you know it all thank f*** that s:h.i;t forde never played cost us two pro
        motions and a relegations uour not millwall like i said before --its you and your silly mates on here who dont know f;; u,,c::k. all

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  • August 23, 2015 at 16:14
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    bust ups in training is nothing new.......chaimen getting too involved " Ambler " is nothing new and as for loyalty to a club , get real they play for money nowadays and theyd play for any team who pays more that includes Dunney and Forde....and Neil is doing his bestb but he has no magic wand the best teams have the best players......our players all do their best .........were talking Millwall not Chelsea .......theres no one to blame if we lose ........just accept that Berylson aint gonna break the bank to bring in better players

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  • August 23, 2015 at 18:05
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    It was better that David Forde came off Jordan Archer should be No1 than Fordy ... Another boost in impact to the game was Thompson and Abdou. It should carry on and results will change for the moment and time especially

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