Harris: Millwall denied "stonewall" penalty against Watford

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© Edmund Boyden

NEIL Harris felt Millwall were denied a "stonewall" penalty during their 2-0 loss to Watford – but admitted the decision might not have affected the result. 

Ed Upson was bundled over in the area with the score at 0-0 but referee Simon Hooper ruled that the midfielder has gone to ground too easily.

The Hornets took the lead at the other end shortly afterwards when Matej Vydra drilled in a superb first-time volley from Ikechi Anya's floated cross.

"I think it's about as clear-cut a penalty as you're ever going to see," Harris said.

"I thought it was a stonewall penalty at the time and I've seen it back a few times as well.

"Ed gets between the ball and the player. The player makes an honest challenge for the ball but clatters Ed first without getting near it.

"It's a penalty and probably changes the swing of the game.

"Referees have difficult jobs and have to make decisions straight away. We got on with it and that's not what cost us the game.

"It might have helped us but it doesn't necessarily mean the result would've been any different.

"I asked Keith Hill, the fourth official, to ask the referee why [he hadn't given the decision], and he thought Ed went down slightly too easily.

"Watching it back, it's clear to see that he didn't. But he didn't give it and we can't change that."

The Lions were competing well with the third-placed visitors until Vydra's opener.

Adlene Guedioura then finished off a passing move to make it 2-0 in the second half.

"Vyrda's was an outstanding goal," Harris added. "As an ex-striker, I thought it was a great finish and a great volley.

"We can say that with both goals we could've defended slightly better but I think you have to give credit when credit is due."

Millwall battled hard to find a way back into the game, with Aiden O'Brien firing their best chance at Heurelho Gomes from a narrow angle.

"I'm pleased in a lot of senses," Harris added. "Between both penalty areas we were outstanding and I was really pleased about that.

"Everything that we're asking for from the players, they gave us again. The difference was the quality in the final third and that was clear to see.

"That's why a lot of the Watford players will be gracing the Premier League next season, with or without Watford."

The Lions, who remain seven points adrift of fourth-bottom Rotherham, face Wigan in a must-win six-pointer on Tuesday.

"We're at the stage when we need to win games and quickly," Harris said.

"We're giving everything we've got and we're constantly improving but it gets to the stage when you have to start winning games, and that starts on Tuesday.

"Wigan is a huge game for our club. It'll be a challenging evening but it's one we're looking forward to after a decent performance, albeit without an end product."

Alex Aldridge

(@accordingtoaldo)

47 thoughts on “Harris: Millwall denied "stonewall" penalty against Watford

  • April 11, 2015 at 18:47
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    s*** refs, we always get s*** refs, springs to mind!

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    • April 11, 2015 at 20:36
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      @dpendet: beaten by a very good team that only had 5 chances and scored 2 of them and we seem to have players that arent championship standards i.e Gregory , Cummings , Harding. but slowly we are making progess and for once forde shows what he is worth.COYL

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  • April 11, 2015 at 18:48
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    Went down to easy like most players today. We are down so get the right man in early so he has time to make his mark on the team and we start the season ready. Thanks to bomber for his efforts but he isn't quite ready yet.

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    • April 11, 2015 at 19:04
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      @LETEMCOME:
      Why don't you think he is ready? The players are performing for him, he knows the club inside out and there is no one who can honestly say that he would be a bad manager. We've gone for the 'promising' young manager in lomas, and then down the 'experienced' route in Holloway. George Graham was inexperienced when he took us over, and look what happened. Eddie Howe had no experience, look at him. It can be done, and things have certainly improved under harris, and this isn't even his squad. People think football is complicated when it's not, the trick is to NOT complicate it (Holloway for example). The first thing any team needs to do in any game is to be organised. We always were under jackett, and now we are under harris. Give him a chance, and if its not working out, he can go back to the u21s, but we won't know unless we try him out.

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      • April 11, 2015 at 21:35
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        @82wall:
        The reason why Harris should not be offered or take the role is because if it all snowballs and we end up in league 2 the so called mindless fans will be calling for his head and bomber is a legend at the club, leading scorer and his record will not be surpassed in my lifetime, we been here before remember the 99/00 season when Rhino was in charge who was on his back, the same fans that will slate Harris if he fails.

        We all loved you as a striker and let us remember you in that way. The board need to appoint a sensible candidate to take over the reins foe next season and sort this out after the last game, so we can build a sustainable squad during the closed season and challenge for promotion.

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        • April 12, 2015 at 19:44
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          @baz2262:
          Your clearly just a wind up, and you don't even get your facts right. He was never in charge of Southend you mug!

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  • April 11, 2015 at 18:59
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    I thought we competed well against a team looking to go up, same against Brentford, we had a couple of half decent chances, and only really looked like conceding again when we went for it late on. If we had got the pen, completely different game, cannot see what more Chopper could have done, thought he set the team up well and with a degree of consistency. If we had played like that for the whole season we would not be in this position now. I say give Chopper the job bring in a Coppell 'like' man to do the back room agents stuff and who could also help with team set up suggestions.

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  • April 11, 2015 at 18:59
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    Not a Pen for me I'm affriad, but if we are down, give bomber the job, he has the respect of the younger player at wall, who we'll have to rely on next year, plus he has them playing better football under his leadership. f*** the end of contract wages thieves off before the start of next season, and buy wisely and we'll be back better & stronger next year whatever division we're in. Keep the faith. Mon u wall

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    • April 11, 2015 at 19:06
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      @sjk1768: I'm not privvy to the salries of individual players at Millwall but I know one thing for sure. Once we've got rid of the following cack- Hoff, Shittu and Hoyte for example their combined salaries are going to pay salries for two new strikers which is what we obviously need.

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      • April 12, 2015 at 10:02
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        @scottwall: It was the sort of soft penalty that is often given against us but not for us.As someone else said on here it did look like he went down a bit too easily but so do 60% of the penalties you see on TV each week. Thanks to the continentals theatrics have become part of the modern game and I fking hate it.

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      • April 12, 2015 at 12:41
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        @scottwall: It wasn't given so it was not a penalty, but anywhere else on the pitch it's a free kick all day so why not a pen. All this horlicks about going down too easily makes me laugh. When the challenge was made did the player coming in from the side play the ball or the man? Answers on a postcard to:- I bet if that was on a Man Utd player it would have been given. The dummy linesman bottled it so did the ref. Harris has played a lot of games in a few divisions so I would always take his word. If it was Olly it would have sounded like more sour grapes, and also reason to roll out another pathetic excuse for not winning. Harris every day for me. In Harris we trust.

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      • April 12, 2015 at 23:49
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        @p: isit my minces playing up coz watched clip numerous times and still cant see contact for pen

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  • April 11, 2015 at 19:27
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    Watford are a class act and was always going to be difficult today think bomber was spot on with our final third problems and if he puts that right (and i believe he will) we will be far better next season whatever league we are in...
    would love him to get the job on a full time basis because one things for certain the man is wall through and through good luck to him he has certainly earned the chance..

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  • April 11, 2015 at 19:32
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    We're 1-50 to go down which is about right but strangely after the wigan game we could be playing 4 teams with nothing to play for, cardiff and blackburn mid table, by the time we play derby they will be cemented in the play offs ans so might wolves before the last game of season, the last two may even rest a few players for the play offs .

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  • April 11, 2015 at 20:15
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    No matter what MILLWALL is my team we played so well today against a top team the f****** ref is a t*** 3 pens will should of had that why NOLU but we dont f****** care COYL we can still beat the drop so much positive out of this game let move on 2 shity wigan come on wall let have faith and hope

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  • April 11, 2015 at 20:22
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    Chopper have change the team performance when clown was here we didnt even have a shot on goal or no goals but chopper have brang our MILLWALL back wiv playing well great spirit everyone happy the fans have turned up aswel so I would keep chopper no matter what he no our MILLWALL COYL NOLU, WDC

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    • April 11, 2015 at 20:32
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      @I fear no foe: Yes, you're right. Under Holloway that would have been a rout. Whatever will be will be. Championship or League one next season we've got our Millwall back.

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  • April 11, 2015 at 20:25
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    Sadly it's the end,mistakes have to be learned from next season,righting was on the wall a few seasons ago.

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  • April 11, 2015 at 21:07
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    We are more than likely to be relegated but since we got rid of the fool, including today, I have seen a team that will be able to compete at whatever level we are in. We at least matched a very good team today in every respect other than up front where they have real quality. That is the difference between the top and the bottom in this league and the reason why we have struggled for the last few seasons. I can't fault the work rate of Gregory or O'Brien, but if we are relegated, both should benefit from a season at a lower level. If we do manage to stay up, we will need to invest in that department and I think that everyone knows that. I have some hope for the future with Bomber in charge; I had none under holloway

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  • April 11, 2015 at 21:53
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    Just seen the replay - I didn't think it was at first but should have been a penalty IMO

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  • April 12, 2015 at 00:07
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    All the bitching and in fighting on here is getting really sad. It's a game of opinions. I give mine and if you don't agree with it tell me why or if you can't form a couple of sentences hit the dislike button. The personal stuff is completely immature. I thought after the clown had been sacked that we would all pull together behind Harris at least until the end of the season. Thankfully I got to see the game today and the difference in how we played since the last time I saw us was immense, we looked well organised for the most part, played some good football at times and above all didn't capitulate against a team that had the class to take us to the cleaners if we had rolled over Holloway style.
    Maybe Bomber isn't the answer, maybe he doesn't have the experience, but surely the simple fact that he is a Millwall legend that wants the job so badly at a time when we are in dire straits should at least earn him a crack and a bit more patience from supporters, some of whom were happy to continue to back Holloway MONTHS after it was obvious that he was a complete disaster for our club. Five games to go, we need to win four and hope results go our way. Impossible no, unlikely yes, but at least we have somebody we can all trust 100% in charge now and no more bullsh*t media friendly sound bites. COYL

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  • April 12, 2015 at 02:07
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    I think we should give him a crack if we go down. He will need advice and help in the transfer market yes but I believe he could motivate players and understands the dressing room.

    Wise did pretty good for us in his first job with the experience of Ray Wilkins...

    By the way why are people calling him "Chopper"?? I thought it was "Bomber" haha

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    • April 13, 2015 at 00:49
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      @JONO: It's always been chopper all the players and staff call him chopper it's only some of the fans that call him bomber

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  • April 12, 2015 at 02:19
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    Definitely a penalty the first defender puts his knee in & the second cuts across him causing him to hit the deck how a ref cannot give a penalty for that is ridiculous & if he says he went down two easily then he should book him for diving. Just proves what a p**** he is.

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    • April 12, 2015 at 18:15
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      @block 28: are the dislikes watford fans are they use to us never getting pens like the one at watford

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  • April 12, 2015 at 03:27
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    The way Harris talks - oozes class in my opinion. Makes his point without whining. So straight and without any fluff. No wonder the lads want to play for him. This bloke is going to be a top top manager - no doubt about it.
    And if anyone presses the dislike button I'll come round your fckin house. Kidding - I love you all, you know that.

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  • April 12, 2015 at 08:12
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    The only way Wall will win on Tuesday is if BOMBER selects HOYTE, MARTINEZ, FULLER, FLETCHER - TAYLOR AND TONGE. This coupled with a fair ref will see Wall get three points.
    PS Can you actually imagine how much money them five players has cost Wall this season and last season along with HOLLOWAY's wages. Staggering I could not even at a guess get anyway near it - any thoughts?
    F...........g joke JB and AA. Thanks for nothing. JB is only here maybe long term for the regeneration. AA is only here I would think the money as well. Lots of likes please it helps me sleep at night.

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  • April 12, 2015 at 09:50
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    I'm not sure why Ambler ends up being the scapegoat for everything that has gone wrong over the last couple of years. To be fair, he probably is responsible for signing Hoyte but apart from that the decisions are made by the board or the manager at the time. He is just a backoffice manager. Appointing football managers is done by the board and I would think Amber's opinion doesn't count massively more than anyone else on the board. Players are signed up by the manager and I would think Holloway, in particular, was given a fairly free rein in terms of who he wanted and what they would be paid. The problems lie with having appointed the wrong football manager the last couple of times (although they were both seen as good appointments by most people at the time) and with having limited resources compared to our competitors. Neither of those issues can be laid exclusively at Ambler's door.

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    • April 12, 2015 at 14:30
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      @junkmale: Ambler's opinion should count. He's the Chief Executive Officer for christ's sake. He signs players when we're managerless. I mean what other CEO would do that? He gives us all this piffle about scouting algebraic equasions and then fully supports Holloway when even a village idiot could see he had to go. He's totally inefffective IMO.

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      • April 12, 2015 at 18:58
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        @NICKOLA: He signed one player (Hoyte) and that was apparently because he was honouring a commitment Jackett had made. Of course he had to say he supports Holloway. It would have been totally out of order for him to say anything else on his own initiative. The board makes hire/fire decisions on the manager and he can't just speak his mind on that. None of us know what went on behind the scenes but I should think Ambler was as shocked as the rest of us when Holloway hid in the dugout in his last game.

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        • April 12, 2015 at 20:18
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          @junkmale: Don't agree. He's the link man between Millwall and JB. In that position, he has a responsibility to tell it as it is to JB who can only see results and is not privvy to the general feeling of supporters minds. Supporters were mailing in their season tickets a long time ago and it was obvious from all of us that we did not want Holloway anymore. The fact that Holloway hid in the dugout might have finally brought the axe upon his head but as CEO he should have taken some leadership and instigated the execution forward. That's what he's paid for. The fact that he didn't sums it up and as a consequence we're probably going to be playing in League one next season.

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  • April 12, 2015 at 22:06
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    @ NICKOLA: How do you know what AA says or doesn't say to JB unless you're tapping into phonelines? AA is human and can make mistakes like everyone else. But unless you are speaking from a position of facts rather than opinion, then it is conjecture. AA probably told JB a while ago it isn't working out with the mental one. JB probably told him to do whatever it takes to get the mental one working. Offer him my cheque book in January etc. I can't afford to pay IH to walk. In the end it was beyond damage limitations. If AA and JB are running the business end and JB loses money along the way then it's his money. If he trusts AA to run with things whislt he's in Boston, thats JB's perogative. We are the fans and supporters. We can express opinion on what should happen with our beloved Millwall. But unless you have a spare £40 million to invest in the club, then you don't get to make those decisions. Unfortunately business is left to those who have money. So unless you have lots of it you don't get a say. All we can do is lend our support to the club as best as we can. Right now my support is firmly with NH and the squad. Even with the wage thiefs until they go. It's what we have to live with. All the time I see you slagging off AA like you live in his a*** crack and know his every movement.Until you can invest millions and run the club how you talk like it should be run keep your vendetta with AA to yourself. This site is about opinions but you make out like your opinions are based on facts. Show us the proof.

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