Millwall boss: Huddersfield goal knocked stuffing out of us

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IAN Holloway said Huddersfield's second goal "knocked the stuffing out of everybody" after Millwall slumped to a 3-1 home defeat. 

With the game tied at 1-1, David Forde allowed Jacob Butterfield's long-range strike to slip through his fingers to hand the ten-man Terriers the initiative.

Huddersfield, whose striker Nahki Wells had been shown a second yellow card after 51 minutes, then added a third goal from the penalty spot through James Vaughan.

Holloway was largely pleased with his side's efforts but admitted they badly went off the boil after Forde's error, although he did not blame his goalkeeper for the result.

He said: "David doesn't need to hold his hands up, he's a goalie and sometimes things happen. Where is the rest of the team to dig him out of the situation?

"Where was the rest of the team when Jimmy Abdou slipped over? How can you let Butterfield run with it and get a shot in? Any chance of blocking it?

"It's not just Fordey. Their player has run 25 yards after someone slipped, hit a shot that normally our 'keeper picks up, and it's bobbled in.

"It hit everybody – the players and the crowd. Sometimes bizarre things happen in football.

"We had a decent move going, I wanted Shaun Cummings to roll the ball down the channel for Lee Gregory but we went inside to Jimmy, who slipped, and we weren't set up.

"After the second goal, we've just got to come through it – stick to task and not become the scoreline. But we became the score when we went 2-1 down.

"It absolutely knocked the stuffing out of everybody. All the sense I was seeing before that, the new team and the work we've done, wasn't there anymore.

"When something goes wrong, the lads need to believe they can be the ones to make the difference and I didn't see that today unfortunately.

"It was a shock but we had long enough to sort things out after that and everything went totally wrong.

"That's how everyone will remember the game but it wasn't like that because there were lots of good things. We've made one or two wrong choices at the wrong time.

"We've got to keep going because there were some decent performances and we'll see who's ready to go against Birmingham on Tuesday.

"For the first goal, Mark Beevers has gone out to win the ball when he could have stayed with his man. We thought it was offside but it wasn't.

"Those things are knocking us but we need to keep the faith and believe in what we're doing.

"If we'd kept putting the ball in the right areas they would've cracked, not us. The players felt they had to win and became nervous.

"It feels horrendous because our fans have gone home gutted again."

Alex Aldridge

(@accordingtoaldo)

135 thoughts on “Millwall boss: Huddersfield goal knocked stuffing out of us

    • February 7, 2015 at 22:27
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      @WestKentLion: "It feels horrendous because our fans have gone home gutted again." Don't worry, there's still some who'll keep clapping you off no matter what shi.te you keep on serving up.

      For all those still in Holloway-denial, that's now just five wins out of twenty six home league games - or 25 points out of 78 under this manager.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:00
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    If we had a decent striker then we would be out the relegation zone. Poor second half against ten men and I'm slowly losing faith. Let's get 3 points next weekend and look onwards and upwards. COYL

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    • February 7, 2015 at 21:29
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      @lionpride: I'm getting in the cupboard under the stairs, I'm not coming out until we win a home game, so see you next season world !!!!!

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:02
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    The only words I want to hear from you now Mr H( if you're still in the job are).........
    That I have just hit my head on the carrot cart and realised that we in fact have been total s*** in front of goal all season and I might have to get a striker worthy of championship, which other teams worked out two seasons ago.

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    • February 7, 2015 at 19:17
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      @kenfromtheden:

      yes most of what you say is true IH, but you let it happen

      it is not bizarre - it is poor quality football - if the players' confidence is that fragile then who is to blame

      the players thought, we got to win now , when they went down to 10 men - are you joking ?? what as opposed to, if we get a draw it won't be too bad - we haven't won at home since Cardiff - er, yes, we have got to win at some point - IH talks like he can't influence things as they go on , on the field

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:10
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    Forde needs to be dropped, far to complacent and has cost us vital points all through the season, Huddersfield were there for the taking, will we ever win at home

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    • February 8, 2015 at 09:58
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      Butterfield to butter fingers!! Total disaster, but hands up to ALL the die-hards!!

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:19
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    'Normally our keeper picks up,and it bobbles in'this is b*******,on recent times forde has cost us a stack of points because 'normally he f**** up'.That goal was down to jimmy and fordey,both long time and loyal servants,both unable to deliver consistantly at championship level.It will only create new divisions in the squad by blaming others for their incompetence.

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    • February 7, 2015 at 19:24
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      @norris:

      you these are routine bits of work and the other players should expect them to get it right

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:21
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    Please no more of this piffle, it is no good for anyone - you know you are not up to the job, just walk away.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:21
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    "Fordey doesn't need to hold his hands up?"

    If you've been telling him that it's no wonder so many are going in.

    This is his way of saying Archer and/or King will not be starting next game or any time soon.

    Why is he still here. No other club in the country would keep someone with such an abysmal record.

    I want my Millwall back!

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    • February 9, 2015 at 13:13
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      @southlondon1885: There must be something going on between them both .they have backed us to go down this season.There on a sure winner there.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:23
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    In IH defence we all would of gone with this starting eleven and moaned if tampered with BUT this was the biggest kick in the teeth I've known. If we were in a better position you would say oh well crap happens but when were let down at HOME on a consistent basis you think the unspeakable (never again) another day in the life of the wall. Can't say any more or this won't get published

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    • February 8, 2015 at 16:28
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      Disagree on starting 11 beavers was playing out of position against a player IH thought was so good he tried to sign him when we had a specialist left back on the bench

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:24
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    Forde could saved them goals if he had tried to and we had no crosses in the box nothing today was a nightmare we can't even beat 10 men , need a striker who can get the ball in the box and score

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:24
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    I'm getting really bored with all this s***. If we done this, if we done that, we should have done this, we were supposed to do that. Why do we have to over complicate things,this should be a simple game.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:25
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    Not a single word of blame directed at himself, an arrogant, egotistical, megalomaniac who is lacking in any humility. Those of you still sailing the ship of fools to Jonestown, sipping the same Flavor-aid this clown is on need to wake up. He was a very average manager at his best and he is now an unmitigated disaster in the job.

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    • February 7, 2015 at 19:35
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      @lion.ie: Spot on.
      Holloway has had a dismal win record throughout his career and he completely lost the plot at Palace. He should never have been given a chance at Millwall, we did not need a media clown we needed a manager, one could organise a side that first and foremost could defend.
      How many times today did Millwall have too many players around the ball getting in each other's way? Whose fault is that?

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      • February 7, 2015 at 20:29
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        @Jzero:
        yes it was unreal how often two players went for the same ball

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    • February 8, 2015 at 01:38
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      @lion.ie: Lion, I'm with you again mate, the blame lies squarely with Olly, our salvation, if not already too late, lies with his departure.

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      • February 8, 2015 at 10:08
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        @Adsy77777: Adsy, I think that result could be our tipping point mate, the shape of our starting eleven never looked right CB at left back 5ft 9 or 10" full back playing center back, midfield 5 unable to stop or pick up the second runner i.e Scanlon's goal and last I know he was credited with the goal but the Hof knew nothing about it.
        2 hard away games coming up must wins, but I just cant see us winning these and I dont know if we can stay up with or without this manager as I am of the opion that the whole collective at the club is just not good enough, i.e. plyers manager, coaching staff, scouting and even the physo's.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:26
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    A lot has to do with discipline and setting up of a team,
    and of course, that comes from the management and coaching.
    So Holloway, it's now a team of mostly YOUR players,
    what's gone wrong this time? Or did it ever go right?
    Winging it now I am afraid, just flapping about mate.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:28
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    You absolute c*** Holloway,beevers left back out of position against a player you tried to sign,you've just signed Harding you idiot,maierhoffer really,and I can't even say that c*** in goal's name,sick as a pig.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:32
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    Blame everyone but yourself Holloway. You have had enough time and admit you have made the wrong choices. not only some of the players. You choose the side you bought these players in, you decide the tactics and formation and you have failed. Please go before doing any more damage. Lets get a real manager.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:41
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    If we can't beat those giants of the Championship (not) Huddersfield Town when they are down to ten men, we have no chance. No amount of fancy chat and excuses can hide the fact that we'll be in Division 1 next season. Get rid of IH NOW, and his crew and let Neil Harris give it a go, after all he's Wall through and through and could just pull off a miracle.

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    • February 8, 2015 at 11:38
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      @GeoffP:
      I think IH should leave because he looks like a broken man, and i fear for his health. As for NH he will never take the job because he has not got experience,and he will be sack and unlike IH will be out of work NH knows he safe were he is give him afewmore years

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:44
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    Im trying to remain positive. See some good points in the 2 games previous so im keeping the faith. Apart from forde, he needs dropping and a kick up the a*** to bring his form back. Bottom half of the table is very close so wouldnt take much to get out the s****. Keep the faith, dont make major changes to the line up and let them keep building the understanding with eachother then we should start making less of these silly wrong choices of pass.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:45
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    IH youv knocked the stuffing out of us Full Stop now there's a taxi waiting p*** off

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:46
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    A dodgy draw against reading, a lucky win against forest and a 3-1 defeat at home, to a two bob team with ten men, is not my idea of a positive move forward.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:50
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    Try Archer to see what he has to offer?

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  • February 7, 2015 at 19:59
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    The ritual humiliation at home is bad enough,but having to listen to that inbred charlatan's crap is too much to bare.No doubt the gullable saps will lie low for a few days and then remerge telling us the man is a genius and those who question him are not real wall.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 20:02
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    I know we've all been asking for a settled back four but Beevers at left back?! Why not play a left back at left back?!
    I'll get slated for this but unfortunately Jimmy just isn't good enough, I know he never gives any less than 100% but so would I, does that mean I should play? You need more in your locker at this level, he can't shoot, can't pass all he does is run around slipping over.
    Don't get me started on Forde, in my opinion we need a new keeper just as badly as we need a new striker.
    Absolutely gutted tonight, I really thought that last week was the turning point.

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    • February 7, 2015 at 20:20
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      @jc23:
      you are right, a stand in left back against a winger holloway tried to buy. WE ALL SAW IT COMING !!!! so why cant he !, they go down to 10 men, we take of our attacking midfield player Upson, and leaves on Jimmy, he is tactically inept !! i will still be there long after holloway is gone, but i'm sorry, he is a poor manager tactically still saying the same things with'his' teams performance and mistakes!!

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  • February 7, 2015 at 20:27
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    Well today was the straw that finally broke the camels back. Been supporting 'wall for the last 30 years and renewing my season ticket for the last 15 years. Things were bad after 2005 for a few years, but there's been f*** all improvement over the last 4 years.
    Berylson has put a lot of money in, but he puts to much trust in Ollie and Ambler. I don't understand how this level of failure is acceptable to berylson. In any other business, the management would of been sacked a long time ago. I've come to the conclusion that whilst Ambler and Ollie are still there I simply can't justify renewing my ST for next season. Wake up Berylson. The people you've put in charge of our beloved club are gradually destroying it.

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    • February 7, 2015 at 20:52
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      @Syd the Lion: I still can not for the life of me get anyone who has support for Berylson.
      There is absolutly no point in keep prattling on about him putting his money in unless you are going to compare its comparitive worth. Yes he has put more money into the club than me or you...but nowhere near enough to give Millwall a chance of being in anyother position than that which they are. I say it again Paul Goddard still record signing, and I say it again now that the council have scuppered his chance of a big pay day by kaiboshing the development plans he wont be here too long anyway....and he certainly wont be busting a gut in the transfer market....we are bang in trouble ....needed a big injection in the january window to help avoid the drop....it did not happen did it. i still respect kenny Jackett....only now is it becoming apparrent how good he was to get us out og league one looking back over his time you could see how the enthusiasm was drained from him because he knew with Berylson he could do no more.....Berylson's biggest assett is the clown Holloway....he is so shocking it diverts attention away from the real problem

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      • February 7, 2015 at 21:07
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        @tonytowneronthewing: You are bang on the money, the ambition and mindset of a club is driven from the top downwards.Holloway and Ambler won't rock the boat whilst they are on to a good thing.It has got to the point where we as a club aim so low that supporters are satisfied with the status quo.Even leeches like Burr and Paphitis aimed higher than the gutter we now find ourselves in.

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    • February 7, 2015 at 21:34
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      @Syd the Lion: Totally agree mate. Asside from the buisness side of things, theres a big danger in having a chairman who knows nothing whatsoever about football! looks like he believes everything IH tells him, which we all or most of us know is complete crap!

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    • February 8, 2015 at 06:30
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      @Syd the Lion: you're a c***. What because "your" team isn't doing well you're gona not renew your season ticket. Your a mug better off without you there negative p****

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      • February 8, 2015 at 08:14
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        @DanmillwallB: Are you Ambler in disguise? Jog on you little c***. Try going to the games. You might then understand why people are so f***** off and fed up.

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      • February 8, 2015 at 14:02
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        @DanmillwallB: why's he a c*** then? 15 season tickets is a lot of money to invest and past 3yrs have not been good value for money at all.

        Don't blame the bloke for being disillusioned. If I didn't live within an hours journey of the ground or had something better to do on a Saturday I probably would spend my money on something else as well.

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      • February 9, 2015 at 13:18
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        @DanmillwallB: you A hole do you know where the den is?or hoping we will be playing gillingham next season.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 20:39
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    IH can't get teams to be able to offer a threat going forward and be tight at the back

    as soon as we go for it like today we ship goals - the only time we keep clean sheets is when we defend en masse e.g. Reading recently, Fulham Brighton and forest away - then we can nick the game sometimes by hanging on - but we don't play that way at home and so we don't win

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  • February 7, 2015 at 20:50
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    Its time to face facts , the failier to get a decent frontman wil be our downfall . Lost all faith with carrot face, him and Ambler r just covering their arses. Feel sorry for JB really.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 21:24
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    sorry to say it but its not just a striker we need. Fabrini apart i dont think we have one player who is genuinely championship standered. The second half was as bad as anything seen under Lomas, no shape, no movement, no threat. The manager should of gone a long time ago but too late now. Sure to go down and lets face it we deserve to go on this latest humiliation. Hate to be so negative but hard to be anything else after witnessing that today.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 21:43
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    Forget all the small talk and the armchair manager talk... Who should we could get to replace?? Forde is a big grumpy lump I could imagine him being hard to drop... Is like so see IH drop him... If he doesn't hes a fraud and deep down a weak man....

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    • February 8, 2015 at 11:19
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      @JONO: brad Friedel on loan would be a fantastic choice. Regular first team football and the man is made of granite. He will handle the pressure and organise the defence.

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      • February 8, 2015 at 12:18
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        @glyngo: is he looking for a loan move? Dont understand why we brought in archer if he's not going to play

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  • February 7, 2015 at 22:05
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    Sunday League managers have more clue than clueless, do us all a favour & F##K OFF, we want our beloved Millwall back...

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  • February 7, 2015 at 22:09
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    Jimmy Abdou is Millwall through and through but does not warrant a starting place. He will always give total commitment, but he cannot head, tackle, stay on his feet or play a progressive pass - his place should be taken by Tonge.
    Magaye gueye for all his huffing and puffing is limited, his first touch is awful and he does not get his head up and look around him, should be replaced by Gregory in starting line up.
    The Hoff has his limitations, but his presence occupies at least two or three defenders which provides space for our midfield and other forward(s) to play.

    Before the slip by Jimmy and the mistake by Forde we were in total control.

    This team needs a few games to gel....keep the faith and be positive

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  • February 7, 2015 at 22:11
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    Jimmy Abdou is Millwall through and through but does not warrant a starting place. He will always give total commitment, but he cannot head, tackle, stay on his feet or play a progressive pass - his place should be taken by Tonge.
    Magaye gueye for all his huffing and puffing is limited, his first touch is awful and he does not get his head up and look around him, should be replaced by Gregory in starting line up.
    The Hoff has his limitations, but his presence occupies at least two or three defenders which provides space for our midfield and other forward(s) to play.
    Before the slip by Jimmy and the mistake by Forde we were in total control.
    This team needs a few games to gel....keep the faith and be positive

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    • February 7, 2015 at 22:34
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      gutted today thought we had turned the corner and would push on! Set back today but can't believe the slating of IH , he ain't been great but he'd building his own side and think he will pull of the miracle again but agree it's outrageous that teams like Brentford Bournemouth even Rotherham are spending more than us I know there got rich owners but ain't we supposed to as well they ain't getting bigger gates than us so it's down to JB to spend some readies he got from Morrison deal years ago Hugh profit break this f&£@ transfer record mugging us off!!!!!!!!! Ps Connor salmon on loan at Rotherham wasn't that exactly what we where looking for??????????

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      • February 7, 2015 at 22:37
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        Who we really gonna get any suggestions???? If we sack him

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  • February 7, 2015 at 22:27
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    Ian you are a blatant c u n t so who the f u c k is to blame then you or Forde ? Personally Forde is to blame for second he dived too early for a ball directly in front of him and olly for the s*** we find ourselves in. 14 of the 18 where his players so f*** all excuses not exceptable your a con artist I said months ago I can't hear all this "millwall" s***. It's got f*** all to do with that your a manager of my beloved so f****** manage em you useless hateful c***. I tern up for once and witness that s*** pls don't tell me it was better as I could see it was but it was still s*** and relegation material.
    I couldn't care less how many dislikes I get cause not one will post a valid opinion on why I'm wrong. Deluded shower of s***

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    • February 8, 2015 at 12:30
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      @lukesmithmfc: Hey Luke, you're forgetting that, 'he got Blackpool and Palace into the Premier League'. (-:~

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    • February 8, 2015 at 12:54
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      @lukesmithmfc: best you go back to not turning up then. Your hate and negativity seems to have caused Jimmy to slip and Forde to fumble the ball.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 22:40
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    Any rich Arabs out there keen to. Invest in London Football club prime for development potential
    Beyond belief
    Only requirements dismiss existing management .
    And £5 mill. initial investment needed followed up with unlimited funds
    Must keep faith with all Wall supporters.
    Apply Millwall FC Zampa Rd

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  • February 7, 2015 at 22:56
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    Holloway is a very bad smell needs to go, his the reason why Robinson left he wanted him out because of his influence.
    Get bomber in and Alex and as number 2

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    • February 8, 2015 at 07:09
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      @Paul d: spot on mate harris and rae will sort this out, and I'm sure the fans will start flocking back.

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      • February 8, 2015 at 08:32
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        Amazing how some people want Harris, considering he is helping our strikers in training to fire blanks.
        Remember take the sunglasses off, he went to other clubs and was useless there and couldn't hit a barn door the for most of the time in the last 8 years with us, except for penalties which he missed a few of them as well.
        If your looking for Lion legends try Briley, Sherringham or even Cahill not Harris

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        • February 8, 2015 at 11:16
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          @brislion: wouldnt want him as manager would ruin his reputation trying to turn us around.

          Totally disagree about him not being a legend. If record goal scorer doesn't make you a legend then wall doesn't have any legends!

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  • February 7, 2015 at 23:09
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    get this total clueless clown out of our club he's killing it

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  • February 7, 2015 at 23:38
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    People people people the speaker of truth and justice is speaking: we're fu&k&d and that's the way it is and no surprise we should e used to it by now. Let's with a fight / miracle and a spic & spam for the weirdo in Marley road.
    Ps
    Powell your uncle Enoch Powell was better then you

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  • February 7, 2015 at 23:42
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    Any room in there for anyone else.

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  • February 7, 2015 at 23:55
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    Dear Mr wolves chairman can I have my jackett back? All the cancer has been removed (trotter disease has been removed) sorry IH but it's not all your fault sometimes s£@t happens

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  • February 7, 2015 at 23:55
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    How did we not go on to win that I dont know. We're far too slow to play the ball into the forwards... how many touches do we need before we fizz a ball in. Jesus. Everything gets blocked - the crosses, the shots, everything gets blocked - apart from their attackers when they're 30 yards out - but, its okay - we got Irelands numero uno - and he'll block it. Oh wait, no he wont.
    I love Fab - but today he made the wrong choice too often. Turn your man and go - dont turn him then turn yourself away from goal. Still best thing I've seen at the den - so I'll move on. Fordey Fordey Fordey.. what the absolute fck was he doing?! At one point we had a free kick in their half and he's on the half way line.. ?? WHY? Get back in your hole and stay there you filthy little badger. His kicking today - so casual. When you can lift the ball more than 12 inches, then you can be cocky. And when we dont get hammered at home every week - then u can be cocky.
    Hoover was good again today. And the Hoff run and chased - and i loved seeing him get pumped up with dockers lower when we won a throw. He worked and he scored. Also - when will I see us carve out a decent chance and see it buried? When Olliver, when? The flappy goal mouth scramble stuff is getting a bit boring. Even the goals we score are embarrassing ha.
    Can I suggest that in training, they practise one touch football - only forward passing permitted. Anyone passing it backwards gets taken out back and shot.
    One final thing - I was in block 4 today, Barrys stand, upstairs. Usually I'm in Dockers. All I heard was whinging. Not one song. I was singing on my own - and I felt a bit of a muppet to be honest. Never sitting up there again. Was embarrassing. Everyone else having a sing song, trying to have fun. Not block 4. Not allowed in block 4.
    The blessing today was - we were in control. We didnt get beaten, we gave away the points. Theres a difference. Thats still an improvement of late. Small steps.
    Beginning to lose a bit of faith now. I get how its hard to win when you're down. But I struggle to understand how you cant win when you're on the up and against 10 men.. 10 rather little and squat fat men, it has to be said. They looked like a pub team. A little fat pub team. Who beat us with 10 men.

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    • February 8, 2015 at 10:01
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      @Mullwall:

      you ask how we didn't win and then go on to give all the reasons - drop Ollie a line

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  • February 8, 2015 at 01:02
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    Being on the otherside of the world means I cant watch games to often........but sounds like we played OK (except for the irish t*** in goal)... he should have gone last summer....

    Yes they went down to 10 men......but how many times have millwall gone down to 10 men and gone on to win or pick up a draw as everyone muscles up HARD. its just one of the facts that happens sometimes.

    we need to get a striker, we all know that. Even the players themselves will know that. Gregory I believe is a star in the making but he needs help.... but there must be someone out there.... Palace just signed a guy from Barton (who played in the 8th division)... who scores 3 goals when he comes on a sub......why are we not finding players like that.....

    C'mon guys... WE NEED A STRIKER...........striker striker striker

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  • February 8, 2015 at 01:05
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    If we manage to stay up I'll be so surprised. I can't see him dropping ford it signing a proven goal scorer if it was possible he would of done so already. As much as this hurts to say we will be playing in league 1 next season we have survived the last 2 seasons by 1 point and I can't see us surviving this season. I know there is plenty of games left but I honestly can't see where the next goal is gonna come from and the thing is if we go down we won't do what wolves did and come straight back up we will be stuck down there 4 a good few years just look at befor. Pi$$ed off sorry 4 the rant my lions.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 01:19
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    I have just listened to the interview with Holloway on the BBC Sport web site. Surely no sane person can listen to that interview and think Holloway is a top quality manager? Listen to it and ask yourself whether you could be motivated by such a nasal whinger.
    Apparently the match turned on the refereeing decision to send off Wells! A decision that motivated Huddersfield and frightened Millwall. Holloway's inept substitutions, total lack of team organisation and apparent total absence of man management skills played no part . Nor did Powell's effective re-organisation of his ten men.

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    • February 8, 2015 at 08:10
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      @Jzero: I just cannot listen to anymore interviews with that carrot cruncher.It is embarrassing to listen to and how he can be taken seriously is beyond me.
      I would like to know;
      Why was Beavers playing left back,having a mare and we have IH signing Harding on the bench ?
      Why when we need a goalscorer did we sign a midfielder Tonge who sat on the bench ?
      Why did Hoff play - the worst striker I have ever seen (including Bruce Murray)?
      Why play Jimmy when he is not good enough - any Jimmy fans just compare him to Fabrini.
      Why is Forde never dropped when you are waiting for a howler most games ?

      We have no pace,too many poor players,without a goalscorer no players capable of chipping in with goals,we are s**t to watch.

      All in all we are going down after two narrow escapes.

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    • February 8, 2015 at 11:27
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      @Jzero: Powell is a good manager mate, I am beginning to wish he was ours.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 07:22
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    It's sunday morning and the clown has still got he's job I see, jb needs to be here to witness what this f.u.c.k pot is doing to our club, lets face facts the nob head is not going to jack he's job in is he? He wants the big pay off, he's a f.u.c.king a*******.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 08:21
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    One up top, no width, no pace (and this is at home).
    A sign of a manager not in touch with reality.
    He really is lost for ideas, and he will not walk,
    he want's his pay day.
    People talking about players being wage thieves,
    Holloway is right up there with the best of them.
    We need someone who can lift the players and the club/ supporters,
    Holloway ain't doing that.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 08:49
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    That was the game that I think the season hinged on. A win and things would be looking sweet, we would be just getting on a run with a new bunch of players and our luck beginning to turn, the crowd starting to believe that we have something to look forward to BUT how many times do we have to get kicked in the teeth Jimmy slips and a half hearted shot that Fordy lets in. Up until that point we played OK and if there was a winner it would be us. If you read my post you know I am always optimistic but I think we have just dug us a hole that might be getting to deep to climb out of which means for the rest of the season it will always be that the next game is going to be critical, we are not giving ourselves any wriggle room. Back to the usual half glass full Lennie and a couple of wins and out of the bottom three and it all looks different and I do really think we looked half decent considering the number of new players.

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    • February 8, 2015 at 10:40
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      @lennie the lion: that's half the problem Lennie.

      People keep saying 'this is a must win game'. What a load of b*******, weeks ago we were playing games being refered to as one of the most cliched phrases in football.

      They are not 'must win' at all, sure it would have been nice to win yesterday as we would be out of the relegation zone. As it stands still 17 games left and 2pts from safety.

      Birmingham away next (we always lose to them) and no doubt that will be the next must win even though a loss will not mean we're relegated.

      We may or may not stay up this season (will be close) and I think our form will continue to be hit and miss. While some seemed to think with the jan changes we were suddenly going to have a 10 game unbeaten run.

      Same thing will happen when we next win. It will be the turning point apparently and everything will be rosey but then shock, horror we lose a game and we're doomed again!

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      • February 8, 2015 at 11:31
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        @MFC Lion: very good post,cut through the media hype and see these games for what they are. Each one important. Teams are beating each other all over the league and even at the bottom teams are going on good and bad runs all the time. It's too early to claim must win games, but I am losing faith when a manager with his own squad can't beat 10 men at home.

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      • February 8, 2015 at 11:39
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        @MFC Lion: Your right MFC about must win games they are only at the end of the season when mathematically you have to get the points. My point was that yesterday if we had won we would have been on a minor run and with the other results out of the bottom three and no doubt we would be saying at last we have turned the corner. The new players would be confident and we would have had a stable team, the loss, however, has destroyed that confidence but the performance to that point was OK. An obvious thing to say but the second goal changed the game if we had got it, and we did have the better chances up until then, there would be a completely different feel over the club but Jimmy slips on the ball, when he had plenty of time to just lay it off instead of trying to beat a man, then he panicked threw a foot at the ball which found an unmarked Huddersfield player with no one near him then Fordy let in a simple shot that did take a nasty bounce but still had no right to go in. It was a number of errors combined with bad luck which conspired against us and we did have a number of chances to get back in the game as well at 1-2. that is how this season is going for us such fine margins. It now depends how the players and manager respond, I do think if he keeps more or less the same team we have enough to get out of it.

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        • February 8, 2015 at 12:38
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          @lennie the lion: Yes psychologically a win yesterday would have most of us thinking we had turned a corner. 7 from 9 pts and we would have also moved out of the relegation zone!

          After the red card I did think it was a case of if we could get a winner rather than fearing a loss. At 1-1 we looked comfortable without really threatening and I honestly thought it ending 1-1 was the worst that would happen.

          Huddersfield didn't outplay us we caused our own problems. As you say Jimmy gifted the ball to them (lots of players slipping over yesterday) and old safe hands gave them a goal from which the team never recovered. Which frankly they should have with over 20 mins left to play.

          Admittedly we have far to many of these kind of games but they can't dwell on it. Regroup and focus on trying to get an unlikely win against Brum, law of averages we have to beat them at some point though a draw would do.

          Forde has to be dropped, constantly making these errors. I don't care if he pulls of the occasional amazing save, it's his job to stop shots and he lets in plenty of saveable efforts. I find it hard to believe that any of the other GKs could f*** up as much and they deserve a chance to show what they've got.

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      • February 8, 2015 at 12:42
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        @MFC Lion: EVERY game is a 'must win game' or what is the point in turning up? When we played Blackpool away, Holloway picked a team for a game he said 'we cannot afford to lose' that most agreed was set up just for that purpose, not to lose. This was the bottom club, a team thrown together since the summer and struggling badly. We lost 1-0. That was a 'must win game'. As I had trouble explaining on here when all of the talk was there re relying on 'Palace to keep us up', three points in August is the same as three points in May. Where would we be right now without our early season form? So as I said, every game is a 'must win game', these are professional sportsman who are paid to win.

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        • February 8, 2015 at 13:42
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          @lion.ie: then you don't grasp what 'must win' means. Last game of season where 3 pts is required to stay up is a 'must win' game. That is the literal meaning of must win!

          Of course you want to win every game but explain how EVERY game is must win. If they're all must win I guess we were f***** 3rd game of the season August 19th 1-1 draw at sheff wed. We didn't win that must win game. That was the end of our season lads, relegation confirmed. Why didn't you tell us back then, save us all this grief.

          3 pts against Blackpool is no different to 3 against anyone else. Only at the end of the season when you can look at the table and see the teams around you and reflect on the results against them can you say oh had we won that game we would have finished above them in the table.

          Basic maths, one game does not define the entire season. It will be the collective s*** results that relegate us!

          Though we won't go down of course, we will bring in a quality loan striker who will fire us to safety at Wolves on the final day in what will be the one and only actual 'must win' game. We will all chill the f*** out and laugh at how stressed we got earlier in the season.

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          • February 8, 2015 at 18:58
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            @MFC Lion: If you think three points at the end of the season is worth more than three at the start of the season, or indeed in any other game, then basic maths is a problem for you. We all understand the literal meaning of 'must win' in the context you have used it, but that was never the point I was making.

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        • February 8, 2015 at 19:47
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          @lion.ie: good grief, what point are you trying to make then? we didn't win on sat if that's 'must win' then all future results are of no significance whatsoever by your logic.

          Where have I said 3 pts at the end of the season is worth more than 3 earlier?

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  • February 8, 2015 at 09:15
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    I HOPE OLLIE AND THE PEOPLE ABOVE HAVE BEEN TO CHURCH TO GET FORGIVENESS FOR THEIR SINS! ONLY THEN WILL THEY GET THEIR PENANCE TO REPENT FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO MILLWALL FC. NO ONE LIKES US, WE DONT CARE."STORMIN' NORMAN".

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    • February 8, 2015 at 09:52
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      As long as that is not Simon Church.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 09:25
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    Difficult times.

    Short term: Drop Forde, Have Full Backs playing, Play 442 at home.

    Medium Term: Seek further investors, we have Brentford spending a million on a player (their gates are the same as ours), spend on quality not quantity.

    Perhaps a move to NW Kent?

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    • February 8, 2015 at 10:16
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      @wongo: Thought Hoff did ok. No good playing up front on his own then launching the ball at him with no one there to pick up his knock ons. Why not try Hoff and Fuller up front? Fuller isn't really a target man but with the right service will nick goals.

      Jimmy just not good enough at this level.

      Gayue panics when ever he gets the ball just needs to compose himself and have a look around.

      We have always struggled against 10 men, we just don't know how to break teams down. We try to pass the ball about to draw out there defence and we end up over playing it.

      When hitting on the break we slow down and try and draw the team out that have already been caught on the hop allow them to get back and defend as a team and we lose the momentum.

      The players contracts had a massive impact on the team big f*** up by Ambler. The teams confidence is rock bottom.

      I felt full of confidence before the game yesterday like I had at the start of the season. Huddersfield were there for the taking at 1-1 I still thought we were going to win this. Soon as they went down to 10 that was it game over.

      I still have faith in IH ( just about) but we all need to pull together. We need a game where we get a bit of fire in our belly's and make the Den a real fortress again.

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      • February 8, 2015 at 10:21
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        @SE6: also Forde... Never rated him always makes me nervous at set pieces he flaps too much.

        We have a team of confidence players and need a leader that will grab them by the scruff of the neck and take charge. Jos might be the man for that job. Time will tell.

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      • February 8, 2015 at 10:48
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        @SE6:

        nice thought, but overall there is not enough talent in the squad , add to that tactics which are awful and how can the results improve - we need minimum 6 wins possibly 7 to stay up - all logic dictates that wont happen - where are the goals coming from? how can you manintain control of a game when you have such poor passers of the ball as abdou and dunne and beevers

        we got Paris for some pace - so when he is known to be out for the season where is the attempt to replace him? it is amazing there are 2 clubs below us - blackpool ship loads regularly 8, 7 this year 4 again yesterday - we didn't score against them -

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  • February 8, 2015 at 09:51
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    Just not good enough for me, Forde's mistake was horrendous, Beever's is Not a left back, too slow and wayward with the passing of the ball, Fabrini OK but kept running up blind allies instead of passing, cant blame him too much as no one help him, Hoff is a waste of time, the list could go on and on. To me there was eleven on the park playing in an aimless method as individuals with no team spirit more like a pub team of drunks on a Sunday morning just waiting to get to the pub for a top up

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  • February 8, 2015 at 10:09
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    With each game passing Ollie is beginning to look more and more like Albert Steptoe and he´s taking the club to the knackers yard!!

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  • February 8, 2015 at 11:21
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    And I don't want people coming on here saying but who would replace him. I don't care cause it cant get any worse.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 11:32
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    As time passes it seems to me that the board have accepted the inevitable and relegation, otherwise they would have sacked Holloway long ago. I defy anyone to name other championship clubs tht would have kept him on. The trouble is that JB is hardly eve there and he is no football expert. In Ambler he has a CEO who like the manager is full of bluff and bluster. Millwall's problems lay deep within the club, obstinacy, incompetence and a fear of change.
    Many people on here have realised the problems from early on, many now want IH out but the board will take no notice. They patronise the fans as Holloway does knowing the loyalty will always be there.
    It is time for the fans to speak out loudly and demand IH goes now. Who might replace him? I am not an expert but Alex Rae, Teddy Sheringham, even Harry Redknap come to mind (The latter wanted the job years ago but was turned down) But whomever cannot be any worse than IH.

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    • February 8, 2015 at 12:04
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      @Peckhamlad: Harry comes from Poplar and his first game was down the old Den with his dad as a youngster. However, at 68 he may now have had enough!

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      • February 8, 2015 at 12:17
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        @beethoven5: Yes you are probably right, he might have made a good manager in the past but his face did not fit in with the den elite. A younger ambitious man is needed. Plus a lot more investment, perhaps the bid made by those Arabs or Asians should have been accepted?

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        • February 8, 2015 at 14:08
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          @Peckhamlad: plus he was manager at West Ham so that rules him out straight away according to half our fan base.

          I've been to the ground for a couple of away games, that's me out of the running as well.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 11:56
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    We all agree,, something is wrong at our club.. We blame our players and the manager. All the talk will get us nowhere . We are a small fish swimming in a big bowl. Let's get real. The wrighting was on the wall along time ago.just look at the, Brighton game and we won but my God we was poor. Do I have an answer no . I am just a pleb . I have suffered relegation with millwall many times. It is a bitter pill to swallow .but rain or shine I will be there singing for my club until the day I die.,coyl

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  • February 8, 2015 at 11:57
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    the chairman Berylson has to realise the term speculate to accumulate doing things on a budget aint working.....he has a wealth of 200 million...interest alone is way more than he has put into the club...hes harvard educated so hes not stupid...it makes me wonder if hes just not really bothered in the club or just using us for tax avoidance ...I know big buisness is beyond me but I smell a rat

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  • February 8, 2015 at 12:11
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    With all the doom and gloom I have been reading on these posts, it would seem that in 10 years we will ground sharing with Fisher and the Den will give have given way to a new expensive living complex!
    At my age I may luckily not be around to witness such a demise!!

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  • February 8, 2015 at 12:20
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    Missed opportunity to get out of the s#*t yesterday, big time, gutted..

    But what I find really gutting is how most people on here jump on the negative bandwagon just coz we lost.. (yes lost, AGAIN, it's hard to take)
    I agree with the fact that the results aren't good enough, but what I don't agree with is laying the blame totally with Holloway. How can he blamed for Jimmy slipping over (as lots of players were yesterday) and then Fordey letting in a bread and butter save?? It's INDIVIDUAL mistakes...'He has the selection' you might say...
    So let's go through it...
    Beevers and Harding was debated before the game- Beevers did a good job against a top winger, so was a possibility to start.
    Similar situation with Abdou to Tonge - Jimmy played well at Forest - some saying one of his best performances.. So why drop him for someone who's not been playing?
    Some people saying about lack of width... Ok, we buy Paris, who brings us upto (just about) the acceptable number of wingers needed in a team -plays 45mins, gets injured. Martin plays for what, 10mins at forest - injured - and what d'you know we're back down to 1 semi natural winger in woolford, who isn't what he was, and Gueye and Fabrini who DO play on the wing, but seem to be more effective centrally IMO..
    So who are we relying on to get a cross in from the right? Cummings, who I've got to say isn't nowhere near as good as Carlos was overall, but we haven't got much of a choice to stick by him, as the alternative is Dunne at RWB...
    Which brings us onto, who's gona put the f##king ball in the net when a cross is put in?? Well, Hoff DID score, so all the comments about why is he on pitch, he's sh#t, etc.. Yes it was ugly, but he did score.. But equally, EVERYBODY knows we still need a clinical striker - and the club is trying to sort that out, but it's also well known that it isn't a walk in the park signing a clinical striker on our budget, at this time of year etc...
    This is the 3rd game these players have been together and I thought we looked good until Jimmys slip and Fordes howler.
    2 things I will conceed is partly IH's fault, is Forde should be given a break to be kept on his toes. Signed Archer, give him a go.. And don't think Gueye should've been taken off.
    P.s. It's a known thing that it actually becomes harder to get a result against 10 men, (unless you're Liverpool playing Bolton...) seem to remember us getting a result against the odds with 10 men...?

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    • February 8, 2015 at 13:07
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      @Luke ColdBlow10:

      there is a difference to jimmy running around away from home disrupting play to someone at home who can unlock defences - he cant do it and you cant carry a player like that - oppo don't close him down because thy know he cant hurt them and they pick up the other players so in effect the man advantage isn't there - to make the most of the 10 man situation everyone has to be comfortable on the ball and move it round quicker with effect - this is the 2nd highest league in the country and to talk about your players not being comfortable on the ball is ridiculous - yes one CB can be a stopper but the rest have to be able to step up with the ball into space and commit someone - the biggest problems are abdou and dunne - they just cant play football and are limited in their roles - it is nothing personal , just a fact - rather like shittu who please god we will never see again - just not good enough - the issue is I have been saying this for 3 years and here we are; 2nd rate players 2nd rate results

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      • February 8, 2015 at 14:41
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        @timchimes: I can't disagree with you there Tim, 'limited in their roles' is correct. Didn't think Jimmy was having an awful game yesterday - not great - but hey, that's Jimmy! Which I guess is what you're getting at...
        Same with Dunne, thought he made a couple of good challenges, but he's not really a favourite of most in either cb or rb... Never the most gifted of players.
        It just seems to me that IH is damned if does and damned if don't, to a lot fans on here.. If Beevers was dropped for Harding and Harding then had a bad game, it'd be 'how can you drop him when he played so well!! Pick a settled team you c##t!' Same with Abdou...

        P.s. Unless you have the quality (reference to the Liverpool v Bolton game) the 10 man advantage is a bit of a myth because quite simply, you just shuffle the team to have 1 upfront and you're as defensively solid as before...
        Remember when wet spam had a player sent off against us couple of seasons back.. Trouble was, they had Carlton Cole, who's good enough to play alone upfront... Apologies for the example....

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  • February 8, 2015 at 12:23
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    For me Holloway's quoted headline says it all. He has created a team with no character and even worse no idea.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 12:48
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    Alan Stubbs anybody? 52% win rate at Hibs, no-nonsense type character, knows the Championship, coached for a Premiership club, young and hungry manager. Just putting it out there in the hope that common sense will prevail soon....?

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  • February 8, 2015 at 14:01
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    IH thinks by reducing the width of the pitch it will make us play better, and with wingers we can easily cross a ball on to towering CF and score, well Mr IH, if you had either, your plans may work, can I point something out to you, what wingers has the club got, Cowan-Hall injured, Martin injury prone and not good enough even for the conference, Fowards - if you think by signing Maierhoffer
    that can't hold even hold a ball or even jump for it when someone smaller on the opposing team out jumps you what chance have you got. Casca, please show this man how a centre forward plays the game. We missed the train (again) by not signing a 20 a season goal scorer as they have no ambition to match the fans who pay decent wages to go watch their beloved team win a game at home, let alone those who pay extortion train fares to watch them play away. Time to go Mr Holloway.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 15:27
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    Let's be honest and remember that most of us were begging the club to offer Fordey a new deal last Summer and we're as chuffed when he signed as if we'd made a top signing. His form has dipped badly this season, even more so since Bywater left. I know he wasn't any good but he was a genuine threat to Forde's position whereas now, if he makes a mistake he's not going to think: "blimey I need to sort this out otherwise one of those 3 kids who haven't played a full Championship game between them are going to replace me..."
    Competition for places is surely one of the basics? We're getting that wrong, on top of quite a few other basic things such as defending or being effective at set pieces which can't be right for a professional football club.

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    • February 8, 2015 at 19:25
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      @mervpayne: @mervpayne: Reading all the versions and opinions most Wall fans now look to be seeing it as it is.Ollies tactics have been terrible most of the season and one of the major reasons why we dropped so many points.He can bring in as many players as they let him but it would still not alter his way of dishing up the same boring gutless tactics and why we are where we are.When Huddersfield went to 10 men what an opportunity,it seem to take an eternity to make changes and even then I feel he should have gone for a result and kept the Hoff on to play with Greggs and Fuller,after all points are vital.QUITE SIMPLY OUR MANAGER SHOULD HAVE BEEN GONE FOR A WHILE NOW AND LIKE SO MANY FANS JUST CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY HE HAS BEEN LEFT TO CONTINUE STEERING US TO THE LOWER DEPTHS.OUR C.E.O. AMBLER HAS HAD TO WATCH AND WITNESS ALL THE SAME CRAP WE HAVE ALL SUFFERED YET REGARDS MANAGER STILL HE IS ALLOWED TO DRAG US DOWN.OTHER MANAGERS HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS FOR A LOT LESS SOME VERY UNFAIRLY BUT SURELY IN OUR CASE LEAGUE POSITION AND PERFORMANCES SAY IT ALL ,OLLIE SHOULD GO.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 18:41
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    Hes got 3 games, if we lose all 3 he has to go.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 18:48
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    To be a little bit fair to Forde, on this occasion the ball hit a rough patch and skipped over him, if a striker gets a bobble it's just a chance missed, for a goalkeeper there's no hiding place.

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    • February 8, 2015 at 20:07
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      @lion.ie: lol, yes, and there was that sudden gust of wind that lifted the ball up and I could have sworn I saw one of the Huddersfield subs greasing up Fordes gloves during HT.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 19:48
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    Can't help but think, there's a village in the west country missing their idiot.

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  • February 8, 2015 at 20:50
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    A scenario:

    Last season, holloway never managed to keep us up.

    Therefore we are now playing league one football.

    We are obliged to keep those players give or take one or two, because they would accept league one wages.

    Would he still be getting the level of abuse that he is currently getting because we would not be nailed on for promotion either.

    The alternative, he kept us up.

    He has 25 players out of contract in the summer.

    He identifies that we have no depth and indeed very little strength.

    He responds by getting 6 or 7 new players in the January transfer window. All of whom are better and indeed more confident than players we already had who were continually slagged off for one reason or another.

    He also tries to transform the club from top to bottom.

    He also realises that his number two isn't cutting the mustard and allows him to leave.

    Unfortunately, we still aren't good enough or dare I say it the finished article.

    We are one or two good strikers short for starters, whom everyone on here knows: we are about to weigh out over a million quid for (never) or attract with our impeccable reputation (if only). Face facts, good players don't like playing at the den in a blue shirt or any other colour.

    Will he get time to finish the task?

    Clearly not from the posters on NAD.

    Yes, I believe he makes mistakes. The biggest one yesterday was to keep beevers at LB whilst keeping Dunne at CB. But he did that as a reward for keeping a clean sheet at forest, not Because he is inept. And in fairness there are several every week.

    But my personal opinion is that the club is in a far better position now than in jackets last season.

    We are playing better football and have a much better squad but have the luck if a side totally devoid if confidence. And any manager can only affect that so much.

    I am not hoodwinked nor am I totally convinced IH is the man like I was this time last year.

    But, I still believe that in two years time we will reap the rewards and I believe that we will still avoid the drop as well (rose tinted glasses, I know)

    Patience.

    That's what this new team and old manager require.

    Oh and our unflinching never say die support of course.

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    • February 8, 2015 at 20:56
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      @bonnie1272: Wish I had your optimism Bon, I personally think that had Jackett got the backing Holloway has had, we'd be much further forward and would not be in this position. I agree the team need our support (as difficult as it is becoming), but we also need to accept what is staring us in the face

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    • February 9, 2015 at 00:09
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      @bonnie1272: in 2 years time we will be playing league 2 football let alone league 1, that is because holloway is a chancer, this 'new' team will suffer because he is tactically naive, he may have been a manager for 18 years, but he has relegated more teams than he has promoted, look at his record!!

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  • February 8, 2015 at 22:33
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    Going to put a lump on us beating BRum. Yes we do fck all against them but need to recover my spread bet on millwall getting 54 points this season somehow. Feckin deseparate (

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