Lomas laments decisions and defending in Rovers reverse

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STEVE Lomas described his side's defending as "not good enough for this level" after Millwall were beaten 3-2 by Blackburn Rovers.

The Lions have now conceded three-or-more goals in no less than six away fixtures this season and were once again undone by a set piece at Ewood Park.

Jordan Rhodes scored the opener after a slip by Mark Beevers before an unmarked Ben Marshall headed in a simple cross after ghosting in behind Paul Robinson.

Rovers' third, scored by David Dunn, came after Millwall twice failed to clear a corner and meant goals from Martyn Waghorn and Steve Morison counted for nothing.

Lomas said: "We were the masters of our own downfall and have to look at ourselves. The three goals that we conceded weren't even schoolboy - probably more like U12s - and that's the reason we are looking down rather than up.

"Going forward we are a threat and scoring goals, but all season we've given away absolutely cheap, cheap goals and again that's raised its ugly head.

"We've scored two goals away from home and should be coming away with at least a point, but we are not and that's just criminal.

"I cannot keep saying we were unlucky and we are going to have to do something about it. This was a ripe opportunity to get three points.

"It's about having desire in the box. If you don't get a head on it, you've got to ensure the guy you are marking doesn't get a free header - at the very least he's heading your head and has a nasty cut on his face, or a broken nose.

"I didn't see Morison or Waghorn being given many free headers in the other box, and that was the difference today. It's not good enough for this level.

"They have all been given roles and responsibilities, we work on it in training but ultimately when they are out there they have to deal with corners and crosses themselves.

"If this wasn't a reoccurring theme you could say it was just one of those days, but it is a reoccurring theme and the reason we are where we are in the league.

"It's about wanting to get hurt and putting your body on the line. I saw that in Blackburn's two centre halves. If they bang one in from 35 yards, or cut us open with a passing move, you hold your hands up and say 'well played', but they didn't do that - it was just too easy."

Lomas was once again left to rue controversial decisions which he felt contributed to Millwall's defeat.

In the first period, Morison should have won a penalty when he was tripped from behind, while Alan Dunne was caught by a studs-up challenge, and subsequently stretchered off, moments before Blackburn went 3-1 ahead.

"I'll phone [referees' assessor] Dave Ellis again for the 15th apology of the season I'm sure," Lomas added.

"What can you say? It is every week, every week it is blatant, game-changing decisions and we're on the end of quite a few. The penalty is so blatant it is frightening.

"Alan is fine - he has a bad gash on his knee. It was a very poor tackle."

Comments

  1. wonky thicklips says:

    It's strange how these players seemed to be able to defend last season, I wonder what ha changed? Either Lomas gets an assistant that has a good defensive organisation record or the board need to replace him now. 20 games is enough.

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    • @wonky thicklips:shittu ain't in the team anymore,he would sort out our set piece problem also I'm not impressed with beevers he has had a few cock ups this season I understand it will happen but I think Lowry deserves a chance to play CB

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      • Sidcup_Lad says:

        @conor: Lowry and Shittu it is then. Robinson is half the player he was before his injury and made a mistake not going to Reading. He's supposedly Millwall through and through but I just don't think he's good enough anymore.

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      • @conor:
        I FEEL THE " PENNY IS FINALLY DROPPING " ................
        THE DEFENCE IS NOT UP TO THE LAST TWO SEASONS..............
        I HAVE BEEN SAY FOR SO, SO SO LONG NOW...............
        GET DANNY SHITTU BACK IN THE TEAM THAT PLAYS AT THE BACK FOR MILLWALL
        AND WE WILL START TO WIN MORE GAMES......................

        AND FULL MARKS FOR THE FEW SUPPORTERS THAT MADE THE JOURNEY TO BLACK BURN,
        NOW COME' ON MILLWALL FANS.................SUE AND I HAVE OUR TICKETS FOR THE AWAY
        GAMES AT WATFORD AND DONCASTERS ROVERS...........LETS SEE A FEW MORE OF YOU MAKE
        THE TRIP [ DONCASTERS MATCH IS SUNDAY AFTERNOON ] !!!!!!

        " NO ONE LIKES, US WE DON'T CARE "
        STORMIN' NORMAN

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        • @bermlion:
          LOVELY JUBBLY !!!! GOT OUTR TICKETS FOR THE SOUTEND UNITED GAME...........
          DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAD TO GET UP TO THE DEN AT 09.30AM..........
          [ THERE WAS ONLY ABOUT 7 X PEOPLE IN FRONT OF US IN THE QUE ]
          MIND YOU WE HAD BREKKIE IN THE MILLWALL CAFE, AND SAW A SMALL STEADY
          STREAM OF FANS GETTING THEIR TICKETS............
          [ BUT NO BIG RUSH ]

          " NO ONE LIKES US, WE DON'T CARE "
          STORMIN' NORMAN ........ [ IS READY AND WILLING ]

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  2. We seem to vent our frustration at SL quite a lot on here. For me , it's plain to see who's responsible for our worrying position in the table due to the amount of goals conceded.
    2 big , nasty , hungry , horrible , proper centrebacks are needed........quick

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    • bonnie1272 says:

      @Block 8: well block, we have four right backs and one left back. Oh and a plethora of centre Mids. Will they do, cos lomas thinks so

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      • @bonnie1272:
        I get what you're saying. I think Lomas realises where our main problems were when he took over , which was the obvious lack of goals. Now , we need to tighten up at the back very sharpish. It's a gamble to try and outscore opponents as it's a gamble to keep it tight and try to nick one. He's gambling on the former rather than the latter in my opinion.

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    • @Block 8: Block8 Totally agre with you, if they were a top class defender in this division who would want to come to us in the position we are in. even if the management go down the route that you are suggesting they would need to off load several players to finance such a deal.

      Two good thing about Saturdays result was that the forwards are still scoring and those around us also never had a good day, but the second part of this is a bit lame depending on others like we did last season. A good win on Saturday is another small step to safety, but as you have all said the trouble is at the back and there is no hinding that.

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  3. He says and knows the defence is crap yet does sweet f all about it. Here we are 20 games in.

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  4. Cant keep blaming Lomas for poor refs and schoolboy defending

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    • timchimes says:

      @chosen1: @chosen1: players get coached , you know - coaches make them better players; or worse. -- the problem with Lomas is that you can't disagree with any thing he says in his post match comments because we can all see what the problems are and he only ever tells us what we know - it is his job to keep his mouth shut in public and do something about it - we all talk a good game

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      • @timchimes: True but if you think he aint been coaching on defending set pieces ur deluded buck stops with the players its about time they manned up and pit there bodies in where it hurts and show some fight

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    • bonnie1272 says:

      @chosen1: yes we can.

      He said in one of the many interviews he has had - this one followed the signing of Moussi - " that he wasn't looking at the centre backs".

      Well he should have been.

      Every week it seems that he lays the blame at their feet.

      He can't have it both ways.

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    • @chosen1: yeah we can blame Lomas he is a crap manager and should go on his iwn accord ...or we will be down next season

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  5. thecolumbusblock says:

    Just seen the managers interview and he looks seriously p***** off, I make him right about the desire of these defenders, you can practice all week but if there's a lack of a******* u get punished and that's why we're suffering .

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    • timchimes says:

      @thecolumbusblock: I never buy the lack of desire argument - that is usually the comment of a manager who doesn't know how to get the best out of his players - our back 4 don't go on the pitch happy to lose and make mistakes; they want to win, like any other team - mistakes come from not having proper strategies and structures - I watched West Ham today on the internet and they were a rabble - lucky to draw at home with the bottom club; defence at times all over the place and the keeper saved them - their players didn't have a lack of desire - they just aren't good enough and play a desperate long ball game - Lomas has to get us organised

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  6. bonnie1272 says:

    Yep, I was right.

    Same s*** different day.

    Same old crap excuses.

    What do they work on all week, cos it ain't defending nor defending set pieces.

    We've only got ourselves to blame... Poor refs.... Individual errors, blah, blah, f****** blah!

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  7. lukesmithmfc says:

    As i've said a few times our poxy defence is s****. It was s**** last season as well but they got away with it cause of KJs tactics he simply set us up not to lose. Lomas sets us up to score goals which when he came in we all myself included thought he was doing the right thing by changing things up top and in the middle. Theres one notable bit of success whichhas come out the change and thats martin woolford. Its clear why he looked terribly uncomfortable last season, he was asked to play a much more defensive roll and he barely got above the halfway line now with freedom to attack as much as he likes we have a decent player on our hands.
    Back to the defending well, f*** all can be done about it untill jan. It'll be very interesting to see what lomas has to do to purchase his targets. My guess is one or two sales to fund them and a couple loans.
    No moans at lomas from me today.
    I didnt go and didnt listen to lions player so have no opinion on the match but without doubt our defence is mid table league one at best. Unfortunately it would cost a fortune to have a top end championship one.good luck with that lomas.
    No mcdonald again today hmmmm there may be trouble ahead.

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    • zampangry says:

      Sorry but even though no one on here wants to hear it Paul Robinson simply isn't good enough at this level. KJ loved him for his lion heart and effort and also because he kept quiet and did as he was told and SL obviously wants the same. But while I'm sure he is a wonderful colleague, son, husband and father, I dont want him for a mate, I want him as a footballer.
      I am sure he will put his body on the line run all day through brick walls for Millwall but he is not a Championship footballer, either in his awareness, reactions or distribution. If heart and effort are all we want then fine get back Andy Frampton and Gary Alexander and play in league 1.
      I wouldn't mind that, I liked them as blokes and if that is the level of our ambition then fine, lets stay there and enjoy it. But if you want better then, alongside the nice blokes, get some footballers who may actually not be very nice people or be easy to manage and also get a Mananger who can mange them, rather than drive them away because they are 'too difficut'!

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      • timchimes says:

        @zampangry: Z that is 100% correct -as I said above, it is not about desire - you can want it as much as you like , if you are not organised as a team and do not have the individual talent you are going to lose - but we do have the talent to be better than we are - yes we are limited defensively , but 3 goals away 4 times, and a 4 and 5 already is ridiculous

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      • lukesmithmfc says:

        @zampangry: been thinking similar things the past couple months zamp, all this he's a proper millwall type robbo and dunney are millwall through and through ect ect. I get it but it's pointless it's got us a tiny bit of success in our past but we need to move on and crack on with the football as like you i believe robbo to be past it and dunney also, as hard as it is they're both costing us along with the rest of the back line we fans are wall through and through and cant even get on at a semi final, saying that we cant all get on on this site

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    • timchimes says:

      @lukesmithmfc: what do you mean there may be trouble ahead - there is massive trouble now!! - don't you look at the league tables?

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      • lukesmithmfc says:

        @timchimes: tim i was referring to mcdonald and the january sales.

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        • bonnie1272 says:

          @lukesmithmfc: Luke, remember last season when you had to eat your words regarding dune?

          More worrying is the fact that lomas has bought in two defenders. Neither, it appears can oust dunne. So do you trust him to spend more money, especially if no one comes in for any of our defenders. Which is the likeliest outcome.

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          • lukesmithmfc says:

            @bonnie1272: i ate my words cause he put in a couple decent shifts which i havent seen a repeat of this season. To me it was a little swan song i like him and his attitude and will always commend a good performance but i now believe his better day's are behind him, he's adequate cover.
            I dont think we'll see a defender get sold unless it's lowry. I think the money will come from a striker or two and a midfielder or two, as i said above i have a gut feeling over mcdonald and lets face it if worse comes to worse he's a salable asset - that does not mean i want that to happen as i believe mcdonald is the best player we have.
            As for salable midfielders we have two one of which we've seen very little of chaplow and bailey again i dont want that to happen but unfortunately the money is needed and has to come from somewhere.

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        • timchimes says:

          @lukesmithmfc: SORRY - apologies - yes you could be right - Mac, Easter Waghorn - who knows? there are a lot of things going on that I don't understand - Chaplow is another one? why is he never available - you know Trotter will go if someone offers enough - Forde? -

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        • bonnie1272 says:

          @lukesmithmfc: I don't think he will sell the better players if he can avoid it. After all he needs those players

          Realistically, we all know there is no more money available, and IMO I think we are already over budget.

          So unless we get some dough for Henry, feeney, smith, dunne or one or two fringe players, I can't see much coming in.

          Waghorn and Moussi wages will be there though which may allow for one or two, but will they be better than what we have?

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  8. Going by the articals I've read and the posts on here today. Millwall are going now where this year.
    This season I've totally lost heart, This season is so depressing, this team are not a patch on the wall of years gone by. Words now fail me

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  9. Seems like Robbo is struggling on his return.

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  10. Jullians1 says:

    He has got to stop moaning about sh*t ref decisions. It's Millwall and right or wrong, that's what happens. Always has and always will. Get used to it - Most of us have.

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  11. Syd the Lion says:

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.
    ANOTHER 3 goals conceded on the road, how many times is that now !
    I have to agree with zampangry, Robbo just isn't up to it. Flat footed and to slow for this league.
    BTW, where's Lowery?

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  12. As several post have said look at the goal difference, the stats are there. Can't be. Bothered but can someone tell us what the goals scored against us from crosses wide and corners have cost us. I am afra Id it's been there all season, first it's was that Beevers was injured, then it was that Shiitu was not good enough, now what Robbo?The defence always needs leader Robbo was the leader as was Tony Craig etc .etc But those days have gone. The footballs better, the player are better, we have to move on. Not good enough at this level, Dunne, Robbo , and Shiitu, Malone got a lot to learn. On a final note our forwards do not get a sniff in the opposine box, yet it's have agree header in ours. Bit confused by it all really a
    ways thought the defence wanted sorting out, but to no avail.

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  13. Stop worrying. One of the major reasons Lomas got the job was his in depth knowledge of the Millwall players. And he obviously knows a lot - why else would he bring most of them back into the team after signing 11 players of his own. It's all a cunning plan to lull the rest of the division into false security and he plans to win every game between New Year and end of the season for a late surge into the play offs.

    I fully expect Captain Lomas to steer the good ship Millwall through the choppy waters of League Ocean and drop anchor in Promotion Bay.

    Though that may not be until next season after he's guided us to Davy Jones Locker in league 1.

    Useless stupid excuse for a football manager

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  14. So, you have finally sussed out there's a problem with our defence . . . Well done Steve, your getting there son. . . One step at a time eh

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  15. timchimes says:

    tactically Lomas expects things to happen that can't happen the way he lines up - if you go back to a 4 man midfield then at least 2 of them have to defend well - trotter, feeney and woolford do not have good defensive capabilities - which today and last week, when we were lucky, leaves Jimmy running around - quite simply it needs more than that to stop the goals going in - our defenders are not good enough to play without protection - we have to learn shut up shop some weeks , like today at half time, - Loma does not have flexibility in tactics and personnel to get it done - just one week playing away we keep them down to one goal - Is that really too much to ask - we kept a clean sheet at Charlton because they were awful - any team with a semblance of attacking threat gets three goals

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  16. JonnyBanks says:

    I posted this last night:

    JonnyBanks
    Dec 13 - 23:02
    Reply
    This is what I consider KEEPING UP MOMENTUM: let in an early, sloppy/avoidable goal, have a good to decent 20 minute spell. Leak 2-3 further goals and give interviews stating we need to cut the errors out.

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    NOT FAR WRONG WAS I!!!! Somebody slated me the other week saying SL knows more about football than me??? Hmmmmmmm

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    • bonnie1272 says:

      @JonnyBanks: thought u were right last night and funnily enough I am still in agreement.

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    • @Block 8: @JonnyBanks: As you know jonny i was the one that slated you,but it was because that post was a bit stupid really or flippent,now this post is not and i would'nt dream of criticising this post ,but then give me credit i have been saying the defence needs sorting since the huddersfield game
      ,and if we set the mid field to bolster the defence we dont score goals,thats why last season we couldnt score after wood left, so when jacket set up the mid field defensivly it made our back four look good, oh and i do think lomas was nieve in thinking the defence was ok, and he probably thought it right to concentrate on mid field and attack. have a go at lomas by all means ,but
      when people give flippent or abusive post they are just ignored.

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      • JonnyBanks says:

        @jim1222: Jim man I loved the previous banter. I just worry that after 20 games the cycle is so predictable for away games it is actually scary.

        On paper our squad is in my opinion stronger yet we keep leaking a huge amount of goals and basically folding. This should have been addressed by now. We have too many midfielders, to the point where we are playing good CMs wide whilst we appear to neglect buying at the back. It all seems lobsided and far too basic this far into the season.

        I don't know what the solution is? I hope SL does Jim. On a level mate what do you suggest????

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        • @JonnyBanks: They have to break the bank to bolster the back four,he has tried with two left backs on loan but it has not worked,my worry with lowry is how long will he stay on the pitch if given the chance,what i cant understand is why three centre backs robbo,beavers,and shittu cant get their feet off the ground to contest crosses,to be honest does it really need lomas to coach them to do this,i mean how long have they been playing football for gods sake.I can understand molane needing coaching but at least he is enthusiastic,the three cb seem to be going through the motions.

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  17. william250577 says:

    If you know what the problem is do something about it you're supposed to be the manager this is every week. Even when we win there is still problems with our defence.. Take some notes on what people are saying

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    • @william250577: William you are right if we can see it why cant they,but what we say has to be constructive,positive call it what you will,but we must not be abusive,this gives them the excuse to dismiss any critisme out of hand [im not saying you are abusive but a lot are].the one thing i have noticed of late is the banter between posters has calmed down[,me included] and more positive views are being aired,so i hope the the managment can see as we do its the defence that needs strengthening in jan transfer sales,if not we are in trouble.I dont think lomas can take all the blame for this problem as he was left with big problems by jacket,lets not forget this,shittu was given a good two year contract and has gone backwards,robbo was never going to be the same after a bad injury,beavers 6feet 5inches and cant out jump a 5feet 8 attacker.These defenders have to take a good look at them selves and turn it around or we need to get players in that can.

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  18. Well he must seriously think about defence now and the problem with loan signings, as KJ used to say, was getting them fit first which can take time let alone finding a rough gem. Unfortunately, either SL has poor scouting and/or judgement in the defensive signings of Hoyte (send him back now) and Connolly who are just a drain on our tight budget.

    If Lowry can stop giving penalties and Shittu get back to what he did last season that could be a stop-gap. I appreciate defenders can be a little more difficult to sign unlike the attacking side but there must be someone even lower/non-league that could defend better than "...12 year olds..."?

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  19. CrawleyLion says:

    Don't worry lads... Lomas has got this sorted.... He'll come up with a great idea... I can see it now....
    'Now we have one of the leakiest defences in the league and I really need to bring in a solid CB to bring the others up to scratch and gain some confidence........ Actually i think I'll get another 3 centre mids that's what we really need'

    There is only so much of watching my team concede 2/3 goals per game and then hear SL come out with excuses week after week...

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  20. NO1LIKESUS says:

    Sh**! Enough said.

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  21. Alexdangelo says:

    I have not commented in a few weeks, as I wanted to sit back and take a back seat. I always try and post positive, constructive comments but I think Lomas has got a few things wrong recently. (I do still believe in him though 100%) People may have laughed when I said Shittu is the big man, and our leader. I know he made quite a few mistakes, and looked off the pace, but he commands the back line. Lomas has got it wrong in playing Beevers. (in my opinion)

    Lots of 'wall fans love the passion of Dunne, but his lack of brains will inevitably cost the club a lot of points this season, the same goes for Beevers. You have to judge players on their footballing brain, as this counts in areas like set play areas too. If you use the statistics of players who give the ball away the most, you will conclude with a good overall analysis of who are the 'real footballers' who understand the game. Just because you are a defender, does not mean you can not pass, or have a good understanding of the game.

    I would prefer us to sign Moussi, and give him a fair try. I would also prefer us to also play Hoyte instead of Dunne too. Lomas seems to be playing players in terms of form, rather than class, and this is a huge risk. Form comes and goes, but class will remain. We have to play the players with the most class- it really is that simple. My starting line up (who I believe have the most class- when all are fit are: Forde, Malone, Shittu, Robinson, Hoyte, Moussi, Chaplow, Martin, Feeney (maybe new r-winger?) McDonald, Morison. Subs: Bywater, Lowry, Trotter, Abdou, Bailey, Woolford, Waghorn
    I would get rid of Dunne, Beevers, Easter.

    The best lesson I ever learnt was when I worked at an Italian club, and the coach said, "all these guys will play 20+ games, and some will still not not know what they are doing wrong, because they fail to understand the simplicity of the game. Its quite simple, you give the simple pass, you move to create an easy received pass, and you beat your opposite opponent, more times than he beats you. It's that simple!" he said " Whoever does this the most has the most class, and you play these players."

    Coaching staff: lets stop blaming the players and start realising that the same players will continue to make the same mistakes, because unfortunately they don't have the class- although we have others who are of a better class i.e Moussi, Hoyte, McDonald, (only my opinion) Regards & respect, D'Angelo.

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    • NO1LIKESUS says:

      @Alexdangelo: Good post. I used to enjoy watching Serie A as in my opinion it was a benchmark for all teams wanting to play with attacking flair, midfield tenacity & defensive prowess. Unfortunately, this has waned somewhat over the years but class is definitely unmistakable. How does Lomas acquire class on the cheap? Good luck!

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  22. Cant even be bothered to write anything to justify this....

    LOMAS OUT!!!

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  23. Bring Shittu back last season he saved us s lot. Lomas is useless as a manager and has to go. He has had his chance as manager and hss no idea .

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  24. TONY BLOCK28 says:

    40 goals against after 20 games. luckily there are probably 4-5 worse teams than us in this div. lomas now knows our defenders aren't up to the job. get lowry in as a cb. get into the market and buy a couple of centre backs with brains and pace. we are better now in attack under lomas but chasing games when losing stupid goals is frustrating. teams have worked out our back line is too old and slow and have a low basic skill level. get rid now or we will be in trouble.

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  25. millwallstephane says:

    Lowry needs to play instead of Beevers. Shittu gives the ball away to often and is too slow, Robbo is half decent and should play with Lowry.

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  26. Sidcup_Lad says:

    Perhaps we need to rotate the defence. It seems to have worked with midfield and strikers. Put Lowry in at centre back and see where we go!

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  27. bordersarebest0170 says:

    we have a major problem with our centre backs, wheather it be robbo,shittu, beevers or lowrey, the lot together are just plain not good enough at this level for various different reasons. we need to scour britain and even places in europe for centre backs that are quick,commanding and more importantly attack and win most headers,ours i'v noticed look very impressive heading the ball when no one is jumping with them,jump with em and we are crap,don't even get of the ground most of the time, needs addressing very quickly or we are out of this division pretty soon

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  28. Amazing how many people on here are slagging Lomas for the state of the defence when not many were too concerned in August. As Luke S has said above our defence wasn't brilliant last season but we defended as a team. A lot of the goals we are conceding are because the defence is being left exposed on the counter attack and then the defence are compounding this by whatever it is they've got going on at set pieces, it's a shambles.
    We then have posters slagging Morison for not getting us a 3-3 draw and another who thinks that Trotter should be on the bench! It's all about opinions but come on?
    Shittu was never much good and those who literally bought the t-shirt and voted him player of the season dumbfounded me. We have been crying out for a new centre half since it became evident that Osborne wasn't one of KJ's better deals. Lowry is surely worth a shot at centre half again at least until we can get somebody in.
    As I've said before, we have a good enough squad to stay up in a poor Championship year and Lomas has a free pass this season to get some youth in to supplement the experience then who knows? If Lomas learns quickly we might have a season to look forward to in 2014/15. But I wouldn't bet on it.

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  29. The fact that Papa John's keep giving me two pizzas for the price of one because we scored twice is fantastic but we have to stop conceding.
    The reason no-one worried about our defence in the summer was because of the way Jackett set up the team - to defend and maybe win by an odd goal. For most of last season we had Abdou plus a defender in the middle and created f*** all. Of course no-one worried about the defence because the midfield was covering it. However, if Lomas had done as much homework as is claimed he would have worked that out before he came here. And if he didn't it shouldn't have taken him too long to suss out that we have only two decent centre halves at this level (Lowry and Beevers) plus two who are past it (Shittu and Robinson) and one who was never good enough anyway (Osbourne). Instead of addressing that glaring problem we have got in a permanently crocked winger (Martin) and a load of central midfielders he can't shoehorn into the side.
    It is becoming clearer week by week that Lomas simply isn't up to a job at this level.

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    • @junkmale: I was questioning our defence all summer JM for the reasons you've said above and this was before we even knew if Robbo was back or not. Couldn't believe he didn't buy a centre half then and it's shocking it hasn't been addressed given our goals against and the type of goals we've been conceding. We obviously need somebody defensive on the coaching staff as well. Lowry needs to start at CH on Saturday, it's worth a shot and he played well enough when tried there last season.

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  30. Eightieswall says:

    I hav'nt read any post match comments from lomas for a while now same crap different week, Most on here can see whats wrong so why cant lomas? Any manager with half a brain builds his team from the back but not this loon, he has overloaded the team with midfielders we have no balance and are thin on confidence. If our home form go's tits up we will be in serious trouble and Mr lomas will crumble.

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  31. WestKentLion says:

    Anyone with a hole in their a*** knows we need better defenders and have been saying it since the beginning of the season. In short, we can't defend crosses, are too slow and square and can't bring the ball out from the back properly. Leaking goals like a fooking sieve is a very bad habit to have. Sort it out Lions!

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  32. A lot of the fans last season loved Shittu they were chanting there's only one shittu and even wearing shirts with his face on ..and yhis season a lot on this board have turned on him. I go to all the homr games and away games ...do a lot of you on this board go i wonder!!!!

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    • bonnie1272 says:

      @thewall: that's a little patronising. But the answer is I am a STH and go occasionally to away games.

      Shittu has not performed anywhere near what he did last year, and has seemed to have gained a few pounds of weight as well.

      Whilst beevers was injured and robbo was out he was at fault for lots of goals against, and also pulled his colleague at cb out of position as they had to cover.

      His heading is not as strong this year either, and at best I would describe him as immobile.

      That is why he is not in team and posters have turned on him.

      However, my biggest gripe is not the defensive line. By playing with advancing full backs we are leaving the covering midfielder and defence exposed. This is lomas's fault for not giving players the correct instructions as to what is needed from them.

      Woolford is poor defensively, which exposes Malone. Feeney was ok against Wigan, but has barely played. Whoever has been on the RW, waghorn mainly, is an out if position striker, and despite his graft, that always leaves the right side exposed as well.

      All that as well as the woeful marking is what is costing us this season.

      That lomas should have spotted by now and IMO dealt with.

      Instead he just blames everyone else and tells them they are worse than twelve year olds.

      How's that for man management.

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    • @thewall:
      I VERY MUCH DOUBT IT !!! JUDGING BY SOME OF THE COMMENTS ON HERE................
      IF THEY ACTUALLY SAW THE MATCHES THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHO PLAYS WELL AND WHO
      DOES'NT !!!!!!

      " NO ONE LIKES US, WE DON'T CARE "
      STORMIN' NORMAN

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  33. bordersarebest0170 says:

    @thewall, so are you saying shittu's good this season and should be playing then ??

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  34. LewTheLion says:

    Watched the football league show earlier, and Lomas is right the goals we conceded were awful! I know the you defend as a "collective" but in my opinion Robinson was at fault for all of the goals! 1st goal - didn't get over and close there player down quick enough after Beevers slipped. 2nd goal - ball watching and lost his man (ghosted in behind him!). 3rd goal - lost the initial header which led to the goal! For me he's not good enough! If I was in charge he'd be out of the side for next week's game! I'd go with Lowry or Shittu to partner Beevers (even though I'm not a fan of Shittu either). I would be getting rid of him at the end of the season along with Shittu, Dunne and Hoyte to name but a few!

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  35. wall2wall says:

    Lomas, you cant keep blaming the defence. You are the manager and the buck stops with you.If we were to start losing at home then we are surely relegated so however much he is annoying us it is really important that we stay with the players and support them through this difficult season.Time for us to dig deep too. COYL.

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  36. JonLapham says:

    How many people here actually go to the game? I've never heard so my much b******* in my life. If you spent half as much time supporting the wall as you do moaning on here we might start to grow as a team.
    Attendances are down and moaning is up. Have a little look in the mirror

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  37. I hope that we buy at least two new defenders in the January window, unfortunately Robo's legs have gone and I think Beavers is covering a lot for him. Shittu will attack the ball on set pieces!! I also hope that SL gets rid of a lot of dead wood that we are carrying, i'm sure they can do a good job in the lower devisions!!

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  38. terry the turk lion says:

    we bloody know what or who is not good enough for this level, don't we.
    These performances and excuses are breaking our hearts, yes we are at times playing flowing and attractive fooball, but kcuf that, I would rather see us play like tihs and win than what is going on now.
    This my club, it has been from birth, it will be till death,
    this my son's club, it has been since birth it will be till death'
    this is your club, this is our club and always will be,
    we show up every week with the hope of seeing something that will give us hope, pride and maybe something positive to talk about but week after week we are being mugged off by crappy little glorified hitlers in ref outfits, linesmen too scared to make a discission(?) of their own, and worst of all a manager after 20 games not knowing what to do with the most talented squad in living memory.

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  39. Peckhamlad says:

    For me Shittu has to return and Lomas has to find another good CB, forget about signing Waghorn it is defenders we need. Every week it is a struggle, the side seems unsettled and unless we are careful a few like Trotter and Easter are going to walk.

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  40. Get rid of lomas and get ZOLA in lol

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  41. Trotter might make a goal here an there but overall he is a lazy git

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  42. Millwallsteve says:

    Think Beevers & Robbo have been found out. Good blockers but easily out jumped in the box & just not mobile enough at this level.

    Shittu needs to get fit fast & why not play Lowry in his best position?

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  43. Shittu needs to lose 20kgs and then learn how to keep possession before he gets back into the team. He is so overweight he keeps falling over when someone knocks the ball past him on their day, Robbo and Beevers are by far our best CB pairing.

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  44. Perhaps lomas should get some videos of kitchener and sit down with robbo,beavers and shittu to show them how to ATTACK THE BALL when crosses come into the box.

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