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Lomas: Millwall's poor disciplinary record must improve

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MILLWALL manager Steve Lomas expects to see an improvement in his side's disciplinary record after the international break.

The Lions have picked up three red cards in 11 Championship games so far this season – and have not won a match in which they have gone a man down.

Lomas said: "We are not good enough to get players sent off and go and win games – I don't think many clubs are. You might be lucky to get a draw in this division with ten men. We've got to keep 11 on the pitch at all times.

"I have got some sympathy for the lads with the three sendings off so far, but if we are to move forward we need to improve our disciplinary record.

"We need our whole squad available for selection and our full complement on the pitch fighting and scrapping, as we did against Blackpool, Charlton and Leeds, to win games."

Lomas has been picking up the pieces from Millwall's 5-2 loss to Bournemouth last weekend but says he has not been tearing into his players behind the scenes.

"Sometimes going mad in the dressing room is just losing it for losing it's sake," he said. "It might make you feel better but it doesn't solve the problem.

"At the end of the day, there isn't going to be a mass overhaul and this squad is going to be here until the end of the season, unless we can do some wheeling and dealing, so we have to stick together.

"The players are an honest bunch and they know when they haven't done themselves justice. We have to analyse everything – the freshness of the team in particular.

"It's not an ideal thing, but perhaps we might have to make changes to the team even after we've won. You don't like to change a winning team but that may be necessary."

Scott McDonald (knee) and Richard Chaplow (groin) face a race to be fit for the visit of QPR to The Den on October 19.

Lomas added: "I'm hoping they will be fit, but they need a week's training at the very least."

Meanwhile, Lomas has played down reports in the national press linking the Lions with Leicester City's Sean St Ledger, who had a spell on loan at the club last season.

Alex Aldridge

(@accordingtoaldo)

43 thoughts on “Lomas: Millwall's poor disciplinary record must improve

  • October 9, 2013 at 18:45
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    Brighton was a draw

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    • October 9, 2013 at 19:41
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      @jamie: He said unlikely to get Wins and maybe get lucky to get a draw.

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  • October 9, 2013 at 18:47
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    "Talk is cheap."

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  • October 9, 2013 at 18:58
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    We need to grow a back bone and fast,make us hard to beat. Would like to see bit of pasion in games. We got good squad find best 11 lomas n stick to it. No more p*** poor excuses or reckon u be off old sun. Coyl.

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    • October 10, 2013 at 08:09
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      @cosh1977: We also need to grow a collective pair!!! when they walk over that white line like all Millwall players have always had.

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    • October 10, 2013 at 09:34
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      @cosh1977: Unfortunately SL has been unable to stick with his best 11 due to an incredible amount of injuries and 2 d*** heads that keep getting sent off.

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  • October 9, 2013 at 19:00
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    Sorry Steve, but we'd already thrown away a two goal lead before the last red. It's not necessarily the discipline that's the problem, the question you should be asking yourself is why are certain players finding themselves in trouble week in week out. Sadly it's usually a sign of said players being found out because at best, they are out of form, or at worst, they are simply not good enough.

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    • October 10, 2013 at 18:52
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      @lion.ie:
      As it happens I don't think Dunne is good enough anyway - but if you ask him to play as a wing back without another wide player tracking back or being available for support going forward then the poor bugger is being set up to fail - especially if he thinks he can't leave the central defenders to get on with it and is constantly tempted to position himself more centrally in anticipation of their messing it up.

      Basically the whole set-up is unfit for purpose - or arguably the squad aren't fit for the formation. It doesn't make much difference either way - the solution is the same. Ditch the formation or ditch the manager or, preferably, both.

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  • October 9, 2013 at 19:05
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    I'm impressed he's even talking about this. Kenny Jackett ignored things like this and it affects the whole team. Team spirit is real. If players get sent off, they are letting the side down!

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    • October 9, 2013 at 19:13
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      @Sidcup_Lad: You're easily impressed Sidcup (-:#

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  • October 9, 2013 at 19:44
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    How can he expect the players to keep a cool head when him and harford are on the touchline ranting and raving at them? He comes out of the dugout has a rant, throws his arms up in the air and retreats back to his seat.Harford looks like he's ready to chin someone half of the time, If the leader panics so will his followers.

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    • October 9, 2013 at 23:50
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      @Eightieswall: I think that is a very valid point, maybe SL needs to show by example that you can be aggressive but also controlled. Make aggressive decisions in calm state of mind, psycho mentality.

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  • October 9, 2013 at 19:49
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    This time last week we all started putting our bibs on to eat humble pie, as much as that was premature so is pressing the panic button AGAIN. I think we will win a few, lose a few throughout the season, if we swerve the draws that should see us safe in May. Those 3 wins on the bounce has left as with a nice little buffer from the relegation zone already even after 2 big losses.

    Personally I am going to forget any thoughts of playoffs etc and be content with safety and hopefully gradually improving.

    If the U21 style of football is a sign of things to come I will be patient with things.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56lGD_CLCn8#t=86

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    • October 9, 2013 at 20:00
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      Thanks for that Jonny. I really enjoyed watching it. if that's what's in the pipeline then I'm a lot happier man tonight.
      Cheers.
      @JonnyBanks:

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      • October 9, 2013 at 20:08
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        @NICKOLA: I know Nic, they are a bit fearless at that stags and there is no real pressure.... But it must bode well when they keep it on the deck.

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    • October 9, 2013 at 22:08
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      @JonnyBanks:
      Nice link mate. Why am i watching the first team?

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    • October 10, 2013 at 09:43
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      @JonnyBanks: Nice rational post Jonny, great football from the kids.

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    • October 10, 2013 at 11:34
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      @JonnyBanks: Blimey! That first one was like Barca.

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  • October 9, 2013 at 20:55
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    OK. So, I've had a long hard think about this. It doesn't make me necessarily right, or any better than anyone else or their opinions on here but this is a site to lay comments down, otherwise what's the point ?
    The current back four have to go. They are the weak link.
    Looking at our midfield and attack by comparison to other championship teams we're in a healthy state. There's some quality players there and it's one of the best I've personally seen in years for Millwall.
    Dunne and Lowry. Not good enough at this level. Reckless. Unreliable.
    Shittu. An absolute disgrace. Living on past glories and totally out of it.
    Robinson. Improved the team when he returned, and certainly better than Shittu but past his best and it truly pains me to say so.
    Osborne. Not yet had a run but I don't think he's championship quality at the centre half position.
    Connolly. Haven't seen enough of him to make judgements but Lomas prefers Dunne in my opinion.
    Malone. Shows promise and played a couple of blinders. worth persevering with.
    Beevers. The one shining light.
    The discipline record is poor because we s*** ourselves every time we have to defend in general and defend set pieces, I mean have you seen the Bournemouth goal from their corner?
    It's no wonder Lomas is frustrated. Boosted the midfield and attack, budget now gone. Has to wheel and deal to bring in others. Going to be a long season.
    The only people I feel sorry for apart from ourselves, are the midfield and attacking Millwall players.

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    • October 9, 2013 at 21:09
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      @NICKOLA: The defence could make do for the rest of the season for me, try Lowry at CB, drop Shittu when possible, Beevers first pick at CB, ditch Dunne, I would prefer Jack Smith tbh, Osbourne deserves a long run. Not ideal but we can make do, need to sort RB.

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      • October 10, 2013 at 09:51
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        @JonnyBanks: You may be right Jonny but we definitely need some leadership in defence and from what little I have seen it doesn't look like Robbo is providing it,
        I may be wrong but why else is the defence in such a shambles from set pieces, surely Robbo should be marshalling them.

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    • October 9, 2013 at 21:11
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      @NICKOLA: that's all well and good nik, but lest you forget, we don't have the budget.

      Personally, I think SL has to persevere with what he has and get the very best from his back four, whom ever he chooses. And he will need the likes if robbo and Dunne. Even though they are not the mist gifted, they are typical Millwall players IMO.

      However, the naiviety of not watching the backs before spunking all the budget is criminal.

      For that he may not be forgiven by some.

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      • October 9, 2013 at 21:18
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        Agreed.
        His lack of knowledge regardring our back four that he inherited is shameful. He just assumed dt was ok and spent elsewhere without really having a good look at it. His inexperience has put us in a poor position. Hopefully, if he's going to hang around he's learnt something ie: Build from the back.

        @bonnie1272:

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        • October 9, 2013 at 22:11
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          @NICKOLA: I don't think its a case of him wanting to hang around Nik, it's Whether the board continue to offer support and let him hang around long enough to complete the task.

          And not being naive myself, if the fans turn against him that will be very difficult. Not that we have an awful lot of bearing in the position.

          As you can see from the support / abuse on here it seems pretty much a split if opinion.

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        • October 10, 2013 at 10:01
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          @NICKOLA: He may well had knowledge of the defence but the rest of the team was in greater need of reconstructive surgery,we could not buy a goal, we were creating hardly any goal scoring chances and those that had were merrily launched into orbit.
          The defence were basically what kept us up so it seems logical that they would be the last positions to be changed.We did not have the money to change the whole team in one hit.
          How was he to know that the solid defence of last season was to implode so dramatically this season ?

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    • October 9, 2013 at 21:18
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      @NICKOLA: Amen to that. #Beeversforcaptain 😉

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  • October 9, 2013 at 22:26
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    I suggest you don't pick alan dunne again! As he is a proper liability, as is not of championship standard anymore

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    • October 9, 2013 at 22:59
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      @dpendet: Dunny might not be the most talented player we have but if the can control the red cards he is not the only problem at the back and people have short memories, if he hadn't scored for us at Leicester away last year (which was a cracker ) we would have gone down !!! That was a goal from nothing. People get on his case straight from the whistle when others have grace why is this ?

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      • October 9, 2013 at 23:21
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        @millwallpete: Sorry Pete I can not see how one goal and Blue blood can justify or merit a place in a team that is playing in one of the hardest leagues going.

        I agree he is a great servant, but his time at the level we are now at has passed.

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      • October 9, 2013 at 23:35
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        Stop living in the past you dinosaur!! Next you will want sheering ham and cascarino back cos they scored the goals to get us in the old div 1,players can't maintain the same standard of playing all the time espocally into there latter years, and dunne certainly doesnt

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  • October 9, 2013 at 23:57
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    Many of you are allowing reputation to define the player, Dunne has played well this season and has been unjustly treated for three of yellows in his two red card dismissals. Robbo is the rock in that faltering defence and when Beevers is back we will see the defence looking solid again. Malone had three good games and two undisciplined games, therefore jury is still out. Why did we buy Connolly when he seems no better than Smith as cover for that position?

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    • October 16, 2013 at 21:58
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      @glyngo: wenow have two players at our club who were deemed their previous clubs most useless player paul Connolly and kyle osbourne.

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  • October 10, 2013 at 00:06
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    Dunne is limited FACT, a barrel load of heart yes, but he is quite a simple man both and off the pitch. The problem is who is the replacement RB????

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    • October 16, 2013 at 22:01
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      @JonnyBanks: he dunne a superb job on zaha he is a sound fullback who is in his twilight zone.

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  • October 10, 2013 at 00:08
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    Why is Smith the fall guy?

    Methinks he is an intelligent man and asks questions.

    Dinner has always 'dived in', he got away with it in Div. 1 as the pace and agricultural style of most teams disguised it.

    I recall his last sojourn in the Championship had the same outcome, him being outfoxed by the striker and looking crude in the tackle. Thanks for your service Alan but you may need to step down 2 leagues now.

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  • October 10, 2013 at 01:47
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    ATTITUDE. Get this right and everything else will fall into place.

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  • October 10, 2013 at 08:12
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    I THINK JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO IMPROVE

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  • October 10, 2013 at 11:44
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    Dunne has never been good enough for the Championship. I love the bloke for his heart and attitude, but he just isn't a good enough defender. I could say the same about Robinson. Shittu is clearly having some kind of of form crisis, but that may only be temporary - I can't see he can go from being a hero at the end of last season to a zero on a permanent basis.
    To my mind, the defense problem is about defending too deep. The need to do that comes from the fact that we have no pace at the back. Shittu never had it and Robinson is woefully slow by modern standards for a centre half. In the past I can remember us playing much higher up the pitch and pressing the opposition much better, but to do that you need a player with real pace to cover the back - Witter used to do this. We need a pacy centre back who can make those last ditch tackles without getting cards (unlike Dunne and Lowry). Having said that about Lowry, he would still be my preferred centre back out of the current crop, playing with Beevers. Smith is clearly a better player than Dunne and should be first choice right back the team and Malone is finally getting a run in the side, which is about time.

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  • October 10, 2013 at 13:07
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    To be fair to lomas it's the same people getting reds and tones of yellows as when KJ was in charge

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    • October 10, 2013 at 19:53
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      Yep, and these players represent the 'meat and potatoes' side of things other than 'haute cuisine'.

      @MFCTOMMY:

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  • October 11, 2013 at 12:53
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    Perhaps Lomas could try and do something about his poor managerial record. Can't pick a decent pair of shoes let alone a decent team.

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  • October 16, 2013 at 22:11
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    I think the whole of our defending needs to be looked at.i see it so often a striker gets the ball on the halfway line every defender runs back towards his area and before you know it goal.make a tackle,move him toward the corner flag commit before its to late our defending in this country really f***S me off millwalls especially as they are just as prone.no one wants the ball and s*** themselves when they do get rid of it like a hot potato.theres a total lack of skilful wingers why because its not fashionable.comments please

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