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Forde shocked by Millwall's collapse against Bournemouth

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DAVID Forde says he is "still in shock" after Millwall lost 5-2 to Bournemouth on Saturday having been 2-0 up and seemingly cruising.

Forde felt Ryan Fraser's 43rd-minute strike, which made it 2-1, galvanised the Cherries, who had looked dead and buried after Martyn Waghorn and Liam Trotter scored early on.

But the goalkeeper admits the Lions can have no excuses for ignoring the first-half "warning signs" of a Bournemouth fightback.

"I am still in shock to be honest," he said. "Looking back at it, the big turning point was the goal we conceded just before half time – all of a sudden there's a change of mentality.

"They went in on a positive note and even though we were still a goal up, it was a crucial time for them to score. We should have seen it out until half time.

"Before they scored, Martyn Waghorn could have played in Martyn Woolford and Lee Martin had a shot across the box, so it could easily have been 3-0.

"We are not foolish enough to think we are going to go away from home and not have to defend, but they scored with their first real chance of the game.

"There were warning signs there though and we didn't respond. It was poor on our part to collapse like that."

Alex Aldridge

(@accordingtoaldo)

59 thoughts on “Forde shocked by Millwall's collapse against Bournemouth

  • October 8, 2013 at 09:14
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    HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA these interviews keep getting better and better! IN SHOCK. Not as half as much as us forde we're still in shock that so called millwall appointed lomas the team is a joke from top to bottom , we are the laughing stock of english football we've gone from famous and feared to f****** hilarious! the den will be as intimidating to go to as a live set of sesame street for the rest of the year. and i hope you're feeling fit coz you got two very busy games coming up mate.

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    • October 8, 2013 at 14:40
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      @steveomfc5: By the way Dave hows the back, must be aching after all the times you have picked the ball out the back of the net this week.

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      • October 8, 2013 at 17:50
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        @Sealion: knees bent back straight for the next two games don't want him getting injured! or we will end up with bywanker who's about as useful as michael j fox in goal.

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  • October 8, 2013 at 09:20
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    These cosseted overpaid second taters make me cringe!

    It's as if they are somewhat disconnected from what happens on the pitch that they are playing on.

    Kitchen and 'Arry must be turning in their graves!

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  • October 8, 2013 at 09:29
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    giving up is not the millwall way, but i think the lionesses could beat you 5-0 as well f**king useless bunch.

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  • October 8, 2013 at 09:30
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    I don't want to hear any more of this "bad day at the office" nonsense! It's just not acceptable. Seems like the team has lost it's pride and it's OK to lose as long as you really wanted to win and tried really hard. Rubbish! they are professional players, paid to win football games, if they are not doing their job they should be in for a really big wake up call. It seems Millwall as a club have fallen into the way of the modern world where it is OK to accept mediocrity. I'm not saying you can never accept failure. If you are beaten by a better team you have to accept that as long as you have given your best, but when you are beaten by clearly inferior opposition it's just not acceptable regardless of how hard you have tried - Rant over - for now!

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  • October 8, 2013 at 09:34
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    Not exactly a one off is it forde... I'm still in shock over our poor start to the season and the appointment of a manager who doesn't have a clue.

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    • October 8, 2013 at 09:59
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      @lionking: I thought he would be more in shock over Lomas changing from a side that could have been 3-0 up at half time to a side that lost the second half 4-0.

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  • October 8, 2013 at 09:59
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    So what happened to the boring old cliche about players needing time to Gel ?
    I reckon the only Gell they are capable of is the stuff they rub on their bonce before going on the pitch !

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    • October 8, 2013 at 10:21
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      @frank: The only one not gelling is Lomas.

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  • October 8, 2013 at 10:02
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    This is just the same old spin put out by the club and its feed to the fans on NAD, we dont want excusses we want passion and pride when you wear the shirt and some sweat would not go amiss either, on the 19th you all owe us a real Millwall preformance againts QPR.

    How are we ever going to attract 15,000 to the den with woeful displays like the last two, thankfully for the majority of fans they were lucky to not have seen it, but all the first team squad should look at themselfs to see if they have the stomarch to want to play for Millwall and Steve Lomas, because if not then ship out and lets start over again, we have done it before and I am sure it wont be the last either. COYL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • October 8, 2013 at 10:10
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    I want warriors wearing our shirt not w******.

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  • October 8, 2013 at 10:18
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    I am afraid this is not a new phenomenon, if you look back to last season we let goals in at crucial points of the game, several times just before half time, and just before full time. This then brings teams on and we just seem to capitulate. Remember Birmingham 3-0 uo at half time. See it time and time again last year and l am afraid it has progressed into this year. We actually played well for 15 minutes against Derby till they scored then it was heads down and panic time. I find this really strange, on Saturday we were in total control of that game, but when they scored it just all changed, players stopped marking, tackling, playing deeper and deeper, letting ther player come on. We can all see it happening , but why ?.You can actually feel the fear in the stands. Its like " They are going to score anyway there is nothing we can do about it". So we have a mind set in some of our players that has transgressed between two managers, although KJ seemed to have kind of sorted it out. If you cant changed the mind set, you have to change the players invovled. You can put up with maybe one or two but we seem to have a lot more. Tony Craig, springs to mind, limited footballer but with a heart of a lion ( excuse the pun ) not saying that l would want him back, but that kind of clench your fist and " COME ON " attitude. I thought Bailey was in this mould, now not so sure. SL now needs to so what he is made of , and get the players attitude right. I think he has got the footballing side right now time for a mindset change.

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    • October 8, 2013 at 20:27
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      @sups8892: problem is supps we have changed most of the team but it's still happening!

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  • October 8, 2013 at 10:26
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    its not Fordes problem..the problem lies within the club...bad management will bring lower crowds, bad organisation and ultimately that rests with the manager who to me doesnt seem to have a clue..I have spent 600 pounds to travel from Cyprus to watch the QPR match and right now I wish I hadnt paid for the flights and tickets...its quite frankly a disgraceful situation that needs a remedy soon before its too late

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  • October 8, 2013 at 10:48
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    I would like to know what the manager said to the players at half-time, as it did not seem to have much effect except to see the team cave in completely, compounded by a couple of bewildering substitutions.
    Look at the difference, Bournemouth went in 2-1 down bouyed by their late goal. They came out fighting and determined to get back on top which too their credit they did..with ease. Their manager must have given them one hell of a pep talk. Totally opposite Millwall came out by all accounts and threw in the towel. What effect did Lomas have on them?
    I know there is an ocean of difference between man Utd and Millwall but when Ferguson was their manager he had that effect of making them fight and play to the very last second. Never giving up, every player behind the ball when under attack and going for the goal.
    What has happened to the fighting spirit Millwall had? Defeats I can take, but capitulation I can't.

    Lomas has to get a grip soon.

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    • October 8, 2013 at 13:04
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      @Peckhamlad: The pep talk would probably have been "their defence is more brittle than glass and their confidence is more fragile than bone china, go and get them boys."

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  • October 8, 2013 at 11:13
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    Yeah, but it's not a freak result, is it Fordey? It's happening every week.

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  • October 8, 2013 at 11:23
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    I see the old cliché sound bites stating the bloody obvious are being wheeled by management and playing staff as if it were on a conveyor belt ready to preempt this now more prevalent and predictable capitulation of the team that we the fans are having to suffer through time and time again.

    What would be nice is if the club come out and say something, anything to allay fans fears. Something to say that the board understand the fans concerns and reassure us that they are still confident that the team will not just aim for survival but go for the original end of season finishing target of a top 10 finish, hell even top 15 finish if they accept full responsibility that it was always a big risk in hiring an unproven manager at Championship level from the SPL and that maybe just maybe they did look at what happen when Bristol City did the EXACT same thing the season before when they hired Derek McInnes but left it to long and ultimately got relegated.

    I may even feel better if they said – “Look we to arrogant and egoistical to listen to the fans and we went for a cheap option in unproven Steve Lomas even though we stretched out the interviews and told you all that we were impressed with the number of apparently high-calibre candidates we had interested in the vacant role and if fans say they want to stay away, I don’t care but at the same time I want 15,000 fans to turn up every home game… I am contradicting myself and have lost the plot”.

    I could go along with that because at least we know what the board are thinking. Right now we got no idea other than Ambler coming out and having a moan over the coin-throwing incident. Well Ambler fans are angry and frustrated and yet still come out to support the team, why don’t you support the fans for a change!

    So Poyet has gone to Sunderland, understandable as it’s a step up for him and as others have mentioned we could never afford him anyway. Who was our other option – Steve Kean? Would he have been worse than Lomas? At least he had English league experience and Steve Mcclaren is having the desired effect at Derby as they are now expecting a bumper crowd to their next home game, did the board ever interview Mcclaren?

    We never know and like him or loathe him you could be sure he would of got more people through the turnstiles to watch the team simply by being a higher profile manager and that would of please Berylson who in turn may of dipped into his pockets a little deeper, although again we never truly know.

    Derby are now also in the market to hire a technical director to handle all the off-field matters to do with club infrastructure, recruitment and handling players agents etc and thereby allowing their manager to fully focus on the on-field matters in football coaching and tactics.

    Its something Millwall could also really benefit from if they are so insistent on standing by in hiring an unproven manager, someone who is an experience semi-retired ex-manager with excellent contacts in the game would really help pull the club up and sort it self out while given confidence and advice to the new manager.

    I think the board will never admit their faux pas on the hiring and we just have to get on with it even if that means relegation to League One because it will be to late before they finally have to swallow their pride and move Lomas out the door.

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    • October 8, 2013 at 12:47
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      @Bexley_Lion: ...great post Bexley, agree with what you are saying.
      It makes you wonder if the new additions we have got in didn't have the balls that we need now in their previous clubs, that's why they weren't good enough there? mixed with the few left over from last season from KJ's reign isn't helping us now
      You would like to think that the experience of Harford, the MFC ethics & "drive" from Bomber and even an relatively inexperienced manager like SL would instil some sort of passion/respectability to want too think, f*** it...lets gets hold of this...as a collective, but it seems this isn't there
      There seems to be a few things underlining that perhaps we are unaware of that's affecting everything...perhaps a clash of personalities as above ?

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      • October 8, 2013 at 12:59
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        Good posting Bexley....I wonder does anybody responsible from MGC ever read any of these posts as they bloody well should

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        • October 8, 2013 at 13:17
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          @peter2545: ...if that did peter, we'd be top! ;0)

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          • October 8, 2013 at 13:21
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            yes but pigs cant fly..lol

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  • October 8, 2013 at 13:00
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    apologies..MFC

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  • October 8, 2013 at 13:12
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    I don't know why Forde was so shocked. I was there and after about twenty minutes, you could see the signs of what was about to happen. The attacking play had stopped and we were on the back foot all the time. It really was on the cards, every one could see accept Lomas and the players. What happened at half time god only knows, what did Lomas say to the players that made them play even worse, If someone said to me they have been paid to lose, i would not have argued. These players did not become crap overnight, it must come down to tactics and leadership. So unless something miraculous happens aginst QPR and Reading, Lomas has to be on his way.

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  • October 8, 2013 at 13:14
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    Lions Live said there would me more goals as Millwall seem to entrenched...it wasnt pleasant listening and I pay to listen

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  • October 8, 2013 at 13:18
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    Another Millwall player quote stating the bleeding obvious.
    What we need is a positive and refreshing quote from Lomas as to how he's going to put it right in the two weeks he's got to do so.
    At the moment the defence has got more holes than a golf course.

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  • October 8, 2013 at 13:34
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    CHAPS ITS A CRAZY START TO THE SEASON,NONE OF US KNOW WHATS REALLY GOING ON BUT LETS GET BEHIND THEM NEXT WEEK,I KNOW WE ALL WANT TO VENT OUR FRUSTRATION BUT WE ALL LOVE THE LIONS SO LETS PROVE IT,LET THOSE PLAYERS KNOW HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO US AND IT MIGHT INSPIRE THEM.THIS IS THE START OF THE CLAIM THE DEN BACK CAMPAIGN. (NO APOLOGIES FOR CAPITALS)

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  • October 8, 2013 at 14:19
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    SICK OF GETTING BEHIND PLAYERS WHO KEEP LETTING DOWN LOYAL FANS WHO DESERVE BETTER..

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  • October 8, 2013 at 14:37
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    I think the rampant lion badge should be removed from the shirt and replaced with a kitten until they have earned the right to wear the lion badge. The kitten badge (or maybe even a jelly baby, then we could get Bassetts to sponsor us.) to remind them of what they have been playing like.

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  • October 8, 2013 at 17:41
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    A MESSAGE TO ALL MILLWALL PLAYERS, WE KNOW U READ THIS SITE. IF YOU ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO PULL ON A SHIRT FOR US AGAINST QPR. F****** SHOW US YOU FEEL PRIDE IN IT! COS AT THE MOMENT YOU ALL NEED TO HAVE A F****** WORD WITH YOUR SELFS. CMON BOYS START SHOWING SOME B*******! I WILL BE THERE, HOPING FOR A PERFORMANCE. COYL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • October 8, 2013 at 17:50
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    Here we go again, yet another player chosen as they may be 'listened' to by the fans but all we are hearing is 'shocked' 'scratching head' comments which doesn't fill anyone with any confidence - just how will people want to watch it in this case with no apparent fix? They are MEANT to know what is going on - KJ used to keep players back after games and make them watch the mistakes and try and have a tactical edge. KJ didn't always get subs right but SL has hardly made a good call - the opposite in fact. Maybe if we had some competition for No1 GK Forde would have competition for his place because the mug SL signed isn't up to it just like the RB who we will probably never see in a shirt again for us. All in all, the players SL rushed to bring in aren't that great barring Waghorn and they flatter to deceive they are really that good; would they not have gone somewhere else if any good? SL appoints Harris in my mind to please the fans and show he is a true Millwall manager and all the sound bites that follow. Now we are left with many defeats and too many drubbings not even a quarter way into the season without any idea from SL how to fix it - great managerial work that! The next couple of games 'should' probably decide what the board do but given QPR is next the excuse will be that we were never expected to beat them. The trouble is, as we won 3 games and got destroyed the next two, this idea that the next game could be another tonking is bound to be in the player's and fans' minds.

    You pay peanuts you get monkeys and look what we got both on and off the pitch.

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  • October 8, 2013 at 18:34
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    To be honest , I thought SL had decided to take Forde off at half time and not use a keeper 2nd half. That would've explained the scoreline.........

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  • October 8, 2013 at 20:34
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    Fordey, did you have to t*** a coin with Robbo over who was going to try to appease us fans after another totally inept team, managing and coaching performance. You are all a very sad reflection of what it takes to make a football team.

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    • October 9, 2013 at 09:15
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      @Windsor Lion: Don't mention coin t****** ffs you will start Old Les off again.

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  • October 8, 2013 at 21:16
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    11 days to go until the next game.
    How about a scoop ?
    Life bans for coin throwers ?
    Wright to Real Madrid ?
    Or are we going to hear how well the Den pitch is growing next ?

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    • October 8, 2013 at 21:27
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      @NICKOLA:
      How about, Lomas admits management was a mistake and returns to working in the Media, while Sir Alex Ferguson announces his desire to get back into management, hopefully at his one true love Millwall FC.

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      • October 8, 2013 at 21:46
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        I actually think Ferguson is going to be lured out of retirement by the end of this season as Utd. will be luck to finish 3rd.
        Now, David Moyes..........................

        @Windsor Lion:

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  • October 8, 2013 at 22:05
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    SECOND MESSAGE THE PLAYERS:

    You are fortunate that due to your skill and hardworking you have a Chamionship Level Club that have given you a contract and the opportunity to earn a good living doing something most of us can only dream about.

    That places an obligation on you to give 100% as a professional sportsman, if however you feel that that somehow is not appropriate then just call your agent and arrange to terminate your contract.

    You can then join the real world and struggle like most of us on here, who knows maybe Barcelona will become aware that your available and you sign there or more likely a pay per game deal in Division 2 awaits!

    Very soon a local rival in good form will appear on our home ground and for those that wish to remain we will expect nothing less than your very best efforts.

    If not it's your career your flushing down the toilet, we the fans will remain long after your career vanishes.

    IT'S YOUR CALL?

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    • October 8, 2013 at 22:54
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      That was interesting Wongo.
      I look at what British professional footballers earn at the top level. At the absolute top scale we have Bale on 300k a week. Rooney, Suarez, Ferdinand etc. probably on 150k a week. All excluding other bonuses.
      Millwall players on 5-15k a week ? Probably.
      I hear 'It's a short career'.
      Crap. If I could earn that for 10 years I wouldn't be so worried about money in general.
      Millwall players need to get a grip on the fact that it is US that pays their wages. Without US they get nothing. No one has, or is going to, invest in Millwall if the attendence is zero. Fact.
      Earn your money or p*** off.
      @wongo:

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  • October 9, 2013 at 08:25
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    Nichola, thanks for the response.

    I remember Kerry Dixon coming to Milwall well into the twilight of his good career and thought 'here we go another pensioner'. He never gave less than his all and was a model for others to aspire to, not especially gifted but he used what he had very effectively.

    I am sick of excuses, blaming refs, weather, no pre season, too much pre season, the pitch, the fans etc. Etc. Etc.

    Nowhere to hide Mr Lomas and co.

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  • October 9, 2013 at 08:57
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    Just read Harry Redknapps piece in the Daily Mail regarding the attitude in the QPR dressing room when he took over. Very good reading, gives some insight into what w---kers some of these managers have to deal with. Not saying this is our problem, but it could be one of the reasons KJ left, and SL is having trouble sorting it out.

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  • October 9, 2013 at 09:50
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    Sean St.Ledger on his way apparently.
    The start of overhauling the defence.

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    • October 9, 2013 at 10:02
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      @NICKOLA: Just don't play him in midfield for Chrit's sake

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  • October 9, 2013 at 10:03
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    Maybe just maybe everything is going to plan for Berylson.
    Appoint an arch enemy's ex Captain who has 2 seasons experience in a tin pot Scottish league and tell the fans that dont like it tuff. Team struggles and the anger amongst the fans builds until it finally spills over. Heavy sanctions are then cast on the club.
    I think his preferred choice would be to sell our current home and he walks away a lot richer. Please remember that the money he has pumped into MFC is loaned and he knows he will get it back plus some. The best plus some for him is selling the Den.

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    • October 9, 2013 at 10:17
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      LOL
      Then we'll merge with Charlton, change our name to 'Millton F.C.' and play in blue and red stripes.

      @wall2wall:

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      • October 9, 2013 at 10:43
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        @NICKOLA:
        Just the thought of that has put me off my breakfast Nickola.

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        • October 9, 2013 at 10:57
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          Imagine the 'Valiant Lions' logo and the theme song...'When the blue and red lions go bob bob bobbing along.....
          Enjoy your lunch!

          @wall2wall:

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          • October 9, 2013 at 11:28
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            @NICKOLA:
            Shoot the b******* , shoot the b*******

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  • October 9, 2013 at 10:36
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    AS MUCH AS I LOVE MILLWALL WITH ALL MY HEART I THINK WE HAVE SEROISE PROBLEMS WITH ORGANISATION IN THE TEAM AND LOOKING AT QPR AND HOW THEY HAVE BEEN PLAYING WE WILL BE LUCKY TO GET A DRAW WE PLAY LOMAS PLAYS TO NARROW AND HAS NO PLAN B AN INTELLIGENT MANAGER LIKE HARRY REDKNAPP WOULD ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT 3 MILLWALL GAMES THIS SEASON TO KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO PLAY AGAINST THEM, THE PLAYERS KNOW THIS AN ALL OF ERM EVERYTIME THEY PLAY LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE EITHER BEEN ON THE P*SS THE NIGHT BEFORE OR BEEN SITTING UP BLACKHEATH TEA HUT EATING BURGERS ALL NIGHT WITH THE FITNESS COACH, THEY NEED TO GET IT TOGETHER QUICK BECAUSE IT DOESNT MATTER HOW HARD THE NEXT 3 GAMES ARE WE NEED TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE NOW!!!

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  • October 9, 2013 at 10:53
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    Aldo says that enquires have been made about St Ledger or another central defender, looks likes Shittu is on his way, and what about Lowry.

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  • October 9, 2013 at 10:59
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    I think deep down we all know whats happening. Yes we are proper struggling but at the back.
    Unfortunately a new manager has came in and spent the money on the midfield and forward line. Before a ball was kicked we all agreed that the new additions were very good ones, 11 games in i still believe the midfoeld and forward line are good at this level but the back line are costing us time and time again but theres no quick fix. we can move around and change the back four as much as you like but the same mistakes will be made. Under kj we were set up simply not to lose and if we did it was on average a slim defeat. Now we are trying to play a bit we are getting exposed at the back by a rate of notts, as sad as it is we can expect a bit more of it this season unless funds are made available to completely change the back for for championship standard players. I predict another escape from the drop this season with wholesale changers to the back line come june and july when contracts are coming to an end, crowd vavourites will also be moved on. The whole ethics of the club are in transition and something has to give, we will get results and a couple wins on the bounce as we recently have but we will also beopen to a few more spankings, this has to be expected as painfull as it is.
    The likes of wright need to be moved on asap along with derry going back to qpr cause hes a luxury we really cant afford and hes not that good anyway, their wages are needed on footballing defenders. One or two loans will come in in the next couple weeks im sure but it will be at the expense of a few favs but its whats needed. Its time for us to except it and move on. Rome werent built in a day.
    It does hurt watching at the minute but i have to say the football for most of our goals so far has been top drawer, shame we cant hold on to our lead. It will come but hope not too late.

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  • October 9, 2013 at 11:08
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    Agree with that.
    Looks to me like Dunne, his replacement Connolly, Lowry, and Shittu might now be deemed excess to requirements.
    Problem is we need 4 defenders to replace them and I can't see how the above are going to be moved on to make these new defenders affordable. The squad is already top heavy.
    Derry will return in January I'm sure. Nothing wrong with our midfield and attack. They just need the confidence to know that they haven't got to score 6 goals to win a game.

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  • October 9, 2013 at 11:23
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    Just seen the under 21 goals on the official website, 3 cracking goals. The answer could be within the club already, have a look !

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  • October 9, 2013 at 13:06
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    Just a little of topic, what has happend to the millwall forums. millwall online and HOF. Cant access either of them ?

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  • October 9, 2013 at 18:01
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    I'm still in shock that lomas has still got a f****** job Fordy . .

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  • October 9, 2013 at 18:53
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    Back in July and August when everybody was patting Lomas on the back for his midfield and forward signings, and rightly so, I was crying out for a footballing centre half to facilitate the change to a more passing game. Possession football starts from the back, just look at how Barcelona and Spain bore the oppo into submission by passing back and sideways from midfield to the back four. We have nobody in our back line that can take on this responsibility. I was amazed we didn't go in for St Ledger and said so at the time. My concern now is that this fellas confidence might be shot after the way a succession of managers have treated him and a run of minor injuries. Is this what we need after shipping 23 goals already? I'm hoping that Lomas is also looking at the Prem u21 teams for somebody young and hungry with real class. And please Mr L, if you are still here in Jan, get Bamford!

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  • October 10, 2013 at 19:21
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    Forde may be shocked but at least he did not have to get up early and pay for a ticket , travel and bed and breakfast like many of our loyal supporters!

    WHERE is the heart, desire, passion and commitment......

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